[ccp4bb] RES: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-29 Thread Rafael Marques
inada" De: CCP4 bulletin board em nome de Bernhard Rupp Enviado: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:18:41 AM Para: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Assunto: Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ? It has c

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-28 Thread Bernhard Rupp
--Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Jurgen Bosch Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 13:51 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ? Think of completeness with an analogy to turkey. Say you happen to find a one-leg

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-28 Thread Ethan A Merritt
-- > > Bernhard Rupp > > http://www.hofkristallamt.org/ > > b...@hofkristallamt.org > > ------------------ > > All models are wrong > > but some are useful. > > -

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-28 Thread Jurgen Bosch
> http://www.hofkristallamt.org/ > b...@hofkristallamt.org > -- > All models are wrong > but some are useful. > -- > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Kay Diederichs > Sent: Monday, Nove

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-28 Thread Bernhard Rupp
rong but some are useful. -- -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Kay Diederichs Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 08:07 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ? Dear Ma

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Be careful you havent picked up the staraniso output which has already truncated data.. Sometimes this is a good thing but as users we need to know the alternatives! Eleanor On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 10:16, Matthias Oebbeke < oebbe...@staff.uni-marburg.de> wrote: > Thank you all, for your replies! S

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-26 Thread Matthias Oebbeke
Thank you all, for your replies! Some of you suggested that there could be reflections at the corners of the detector, which are 'cutted by the edges'. This also came to my mind, but the data was collected until 1.7A at the edges. I will take the advice to refine against the low and the hig

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-25 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Matthias, Of course, high completeness is better than low completeness. But as long as your low resolution is pretty much complete, there is no such thing as "too low completeness" at high resolution. Each reflection adds information to the map, and serves as a restraint in refinement. bes

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-25 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
ess. Best, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Matthias Oebbeke Gesendet: Montag, 25. November 2019 14:12 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ? EXTERNAL : Real sender is owner-ccp...@jisc

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-25 Thread vincent Chaptal
Dear Matthias, do you have an idea of what triggered this low completeness at high resolution? Is it that the crystal still diffracts in one direction of space but stops in another, resulting in low spherical completeness? If so, then you can use all of your good data, and I would probably go

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-25 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello, it should be alright especially if you have NCS. Diffraction anisotropy also springs to mind. Best wishes, Jon.C.On 25 Nov 2019 13:11, Matthias Oebbeke wrote:Dear ccp4 Bulletin Board, I collected a dataset at a synchrotron beamline and got the statistics  (CORRECT.LP) after processing

Re: [ccp4bb] Xray-dataset usable despite low completeness ?

2019-11-25 Thread Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
The data are > 90% complete at low resolution, where the completeness is more important, so this is probably fine - you would probably benefit from better detector placement in the future as the data are good to the edge. Was the detector offset or just too far away? 120° for an oP lattice sho