[ccp4bb] alternative conformation refinement by phenix

2012-05-25 Thread LISA
Hi all,

I am refining a DNA-protein complex structure by phenix.  My protein is a
nuclease and the DNA bound to protein is a mixture of the substrate and
product. Partial  DNA was cleavaged by the protein and others is keep a
un-cleavaged strand. I am trying to rerine this mixture with phenix.  My
DNA sequence is *AG*NN. Half of DNA was cleavaged between AG and
half DNA keep a uncleavaged strand as my sequence.  Nucleic acid AG have
two conformations in this structure and a water molecule located close to
the phosphate group when it uncleavaged. I defined AADE and BADE, AGUA and
BGUA with 0.5 occupancy. I also give the water mentioned above 0.5
occupancy. I try to refine this structure by phenix but failed. Please give
me some suggestion about this DNA alternative confromation refinement? How
should I define the occ.params file? Thank you in advance.

Lisa


Re: [ccp4bb] alternative conformation refinement by phenix

2012-05-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 19:01 +0800, LISA wrote:
 try to refine this structure by phenix but failed.

Not that I have an answer to your question, but you have to describe
what you mean by failed.

Maybe you should try refmac.  Will also make your inquiry better suited
for this forum (although it's perfectly ok to ask non-CCP4 questions and
phenix developers hear you anyway).

-- 
I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at whistling.
   Julian, King of Lemurs


Re: [ccp4bb] alternative conformation refinement by phenix

2012-05-25 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Hi Lisa,
 
I am not an phenix expert and, as Ed mentioned, from the message that
refinement failed it is hard to figure out what or how it failed.
Nevertheless, here are a few suggestions.
 
-do your alternate conformations make consistent sets? E.g. do the AADE
and AGUA both belong to the linked set and the BADE and BGUA both belong
to the broken set?
-I would give the water a lower then 0.5 occupancy. For refmac it is
claimed that the steric repulsions are switched off between atoms if the
combined occupancies are less or equal to one.
-tackle one problem at a time, i.e. remove the water first and see that
the conneced/broken strands are being refined correctly. Once that is
ok, you could add the water.
 
my two cents,
Herman




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Subject: [ccp4bb] alternative conformation refinement by phenix


Hi all,

I am refining a DNA-protein complex structure by phenix.  My
protein is a nuclease and the DNA bound to protein is a mixture of the
substrate and product. Partial  DNA was cleavaged by the protein and
others is keep a un-cleavaged strand. I am trying to rerine this mixture
with phenix.  My DNA sequence is AGNN. Half of DNA was cleavaged
between AG and half DNA keep a uncleavaged strand as my sequence.
Nucleic acid AG have two conformations in this structure and a water
molecule located close to the phosphate group when it uncleavaged. I
defined AADE and BADE, AGUA and BGUA with 0.5 occupancy. I also give the
water mentioned above 0.5 occupancy. I try to refine this structure by
phenix but failed. Please give me some suggestion about this DNA
alternative confromation refinement? How should I define the occ.params
file? Thank you in advance.

Lisa




Re: [ccp4bb] alternative conformation refinement by phenix

2012-05-25 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi LISA,

if you send me more details I might be able to address your questions  (as
Phenix developer). Though a better place to post your Phenix related
questions is a Phenix mailing list, not CCP4bb.

P.S. Ugh, I find Ed's reply totally.. how to say it softer using my
non-native-English... embarrassing.

All the best,
Pavel


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:01 AM, LISA science...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am refining a DNA-protein complex structure by phenix.  My protein is a
 nuclease and the DNA bound to protein is a mixture of the substrate and
 product. Partial  DNA was cleavaged by the protein and others is keep a
 un-cleavaged strand. I am trying to rerine this mixture with phenix.  My
 DNA sequence is *AG*NN. Half of DNA was cleavaged between AG and
 half DNA keep a uncleavaged strand as my sequence.  Nucleic acid AG have
 two conformations in this structure and a water molecule located close to
 the phosphate group when it uncleavaged. I defined AADE and BADE, AGUA and
 BGUA with 0.5 occupancy. I also give the water mentioned above 0.5
 occupancy. I try to refine this structure by phenix but failed. Please give
 me some suggestion about this DNA alternative confromation refinement? How
 should I define the occ.params file? Thank you in advance.

 Lisa