Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Nian Huang
A dual boot laptop is all you need. I always reinstall the windows to get rid of bloatware anyway. If you are going to buy a mac, you can also try the triple boot, but I don't think anybody is doing it. Although it is very convenient, a virtual machine will affect the performance of the software.

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Antony Oliver
Erm, somewhat confused — if you are going to buy a Mac — why would you need (or want!) a triple boot system? It all seems to work just fine on OS X. Tony. On 30 Aug 2011, at 07:38, Nian Huang wrote: A dual boot laptop is all you need. I always reinstall the windows to get rid of bloatware

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Nian Huang
There are some windows only software, for example 3ds Max. But you have a point, you probably don't need linux system in this case. Nian On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Antony Oliver antony.oli...@sussex.ac.ukwrote: Erm, somewhat confused — if you are going to buy a Mac — why would you need

Re: [ccp4bb] Methods for dehydrating crystals

2011-08-30 Thread Hargreaves, David
Hi Andrea, If you haven't already done so it might be worth trying a room temperature mount (capillary or in-situ) to get a feeling for how well the crystals diffract to start with. Dave David Hargreaves Associate Principal Scientist

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals with Organic solvents

2011-08-30 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Hi Eswar Firstly, I would certainly try crystal seeding into random screens if you haven't already tried it.  Refs below. Secondly, it's very convenient to grow the crystals under oil, and to soak the organic solvents into the drops, through the oil.  This makes it much easier to harvest the

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Pete Meyer
Paul Smith wrote: 2) ditch all gui support or, from scratch, develop a gui front-end that uses none of the following: Qt, Ruby, Perl, Python, TK/TCl, etc. This gui must compile and run on all mainstream hardware on all major operating systems. The custom gui might also need a custom driver

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 09:55 -0500, Pete Meyer wrote: but I'm all in favor of dropping gui's for tasks that don't involve dealing with graphical data second that. I was about to say while it is not expected that everyone practicing crystallography should master the use of command line, but

[ccp4bb] Protein preps become a jelly

2011-08-30 Thread aidong
Dear Buddies, Sorry for bothering you with an off-ccp4 question. We recently are experiencing a very strange phenomena. A couple of protein preps with reasonably high concentration (10-20mg/ml) become a jelly after storages for overnight or a couple of days at 4C. All of them have

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein preps become a jelly

2011-08-30 Thread Laurie Betts
I have had protein crystals (so very high protein concentration) that turn into gummy bear-like objects, where instead of crumbling they are like, well, a gummy bear or a piece of rubber. I attributed it to oxidation or other chemical ageing processes. I am sure others will have suggestions for

Re: [ccp4bb] waters shell analysis

2011-08-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 08/26/2011 10:18 AM, REX PALMER wrote: Once waters have been located and refined is there a program that analyses their positions in terms of solvation shells? Can the results be compared easily with those from related known protein structures? Rex Palmer

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein preps become a jelly

2011-08-30 Thread Roger Rowlett
Not necessarily uncommon. To minimize protein-protein interactions that might be causing gelation, you might change the pH of the solution so that is is not close to the pI, use a small amount of chelator to sequester metal ions, and maintain a modest ionic

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein preps become a jelly

2011-08-30 Thread Patrick Loll
Certainly not unprecedented, or even that unusual (I remember making gels from BSA and IgG solutions during grad school rotations). Gel formation usually requires crosslinking, so consider whether you might be getting adventitious disulfide bond formation. Pat On 30 Aug 2011, at 11:31 AM,

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Roger Rowlett
Personally, I like having the GUI front end for training and education, especially for undergraduates. It has made protein XRD much more accessible as a tool for many labs that would otherwise find the barrier for entry very high. In the "old days,"--8 years ago

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein preps become a jelly

2011-08-30 Thread Prince, D Bryan
I had a similar problem with crystals that were obtained from PEG-based precipitants over long periods of time. If I harvested the crystals in about 5 days, they would diffract to ~3 Angstrom. If I let them grow any time past about 7 days, they became PEG-alated and didn't diffract at all. I

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein preps become a jelly

2011-08-30 Thread Michael Thompson
To add to what Pat has mentioned, I work with a protein that has a number of exposed Cys residues, and it turns into a gel at 4 degrees within a week, even if I store it in buffer with reducing agents. This happens every time I store it at 4 degrees. To test if your jelly is due to S-S

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-30 Thread Allan Pang
Thanks everyone for your response. The most likely answer to my problem is protein overloaded onto the column. I pushed my protein concentration further down to 0.5ml instead of the usual method, which to run multiple times on SEC. Adding NaCl in the buffer may also help, as it seems that

[ccp4bb] twinning in hexagonal system

2011-08-30 Thread john peter
Hello All, This is regarding twinning in a data set. I collected a native data set to resolution, 1.8 A. I used XDS suite to process and scale the data set. It scaled well in P622 and I found systematic absence (l=6n present). Hence thought the space group may be P6122/P6522. SFCHECK did

Re: [ccp4bb] twinning in hexagonal system

2011-08-30 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Hello Space groups with point groups 622 and 432 merohedral twinning is not possible (they are the highest groups possible for proteins). If you could merge in 622 it means that Rmerge was very small. It is very likely that point group is either 622 or 6 with very strong rotational symmetry

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-30 Thread Roger Rowlett
I'm glad this worked out well for you. For conducting molecular sizing determinations with a calibrated GEC column, I typically use 100-500 uL injections of approximately 1 mg/mL or so of purified protein on a 1.6 x 60 cm column. The limited protein quantity will

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-30 Thread Nian Huang
Thanks, David. I believe the leaked column was probably my case, although I didn't see any visible leakage I re-tightened connections anyway. But the weird thing was that after I equilibrized the column for a while, the dry patches and cracks disappeared. Everything returned to normal even a

[ccp4bb] Temperature Factor statistics

2011-08-30 Thread Yuri Pompeu
Quick newbie question, After i get my output file from baverage containing the average b-factor and rms by residues, How can I calculate and display the average (and or mean) B-factors? Is there a way of calculating it by protein, ligands and solvent separately? thank you

Re: [ccp4bb] Temperature Factor statistics

2011-08-30 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Yuri, a possible option: phenix.model_vs_data model.pdb data.mtz will do it. Look for lines like this in the output: ADP (min,max,mean): all (136 atoms): 4.497.6 25.3 side chains (48 atoms): 4.996.8 21.0 main chains (64 atoms): 4.4