[ccp4bb] Data Fitting for protein-ligand interaction.

2013-09-12 Thread MONICA MITTAL
Dear All,
 Firstly sorry for asking a non-crystallography
question, but i want help in understanding the data analysis for fitting a
protein-ligand binding data.
Actually i have a protein which is a tetramer in solution and i have done
its flourescence binding with a ligand. I am trying to fit the data to a
4-site binding model in scientist. But i donot have a correct model to fit
in the data for identical or non-identical, co-operative or sequential
binding. Can anyone help me in analysing the binding data.
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Thankyou !


[ccp4bb] Data Fitting for protein-ligand interaction.

2013-09-12 Thread Matthias Barone
Dear All
I've been reading several mails that adress the problem of acetylated N-termini 
when refining peptide ligands with refmac. I managed to include LINKR records 
after running refmacs review restraints as suggested by Eleanor Dodson in one 
of the mails I found:

LINKRC   ACE I   0 N   TRP I   1ACE_C-N

But the records themself are obviously not sufficient to maintain the ACE 
linked to TRP during refinement and ACE moves away.

Eleanor Dodson wrote about that topic:
If you run [...] review restraints, it will detect and make a LINK entry for 
you
Then you will need to use the GUI task - merge monomer library to combine your 
corrected MAL with the new LINK
Run refmac again with XYZIN the output from review restraints  task (that 
will include a LINK record) and it should/might! work...

If I read that correctly, Review restraints should produce a LIBOUT that can be 
loaded as .cif in a later step for refinement? Such a file was 

not produced.

I tried afterwards: 

1) To regularize and safe an ACE-TRP monomer in JLIgand and load the .cif as 
LIBIN for refmac. The link is found, but ACE still moves away with 

the same messages:

  WARNING : link:ACE_C-N  is found dist = 1.361 ideal_dist= 1.329
ch:II   res:   1  TRP  at:N   .-Ia   res:   0  ACE 
 at:C   .

Even though XYZOUT still contains the LINKR records.

2) As I suspected, refmac needs except for the LINKR record a LIBIN that should 
be produced when running Review Restraints. As this .cif file 

is not produced, I sent the whole ligand to prodrug and safed the .cif from 
there. But that did not work out either.

3) I also tried to change the LINKR record into LINK


I failed until now to tell refmac to maintain ACE linked to the TRP. I know 
this issues have been discussed before, but none of the suggestions helped yet. 
Any help would be highly appriciated.


Re: [ccp4bb] Data Fitting for protein-ligand interaction.

2013-09-12 Thread rajakumara eerappa
Hi Monica

If protein is Homo-tetramer then one can expect the identical binding
sites. I am also working on homo-dimeric protein which binds to DNA.  I
used PRISM to estimate the binding affinity through flourescence
bindingmethod using “SATURATION and NON-LINEAR REGRESSION and ONE SITE
binding
Model’ considering protein concentration as dimer or monomer.  Then I
looked for the sensibility of the model by analyzing (comparing) best fit
values (like SD, Bmax) of the parameters with reasonable certainty.

Unlike ITC binding model fitting (gives good estimate of stoichiometry,
cooperativity and also binding sites (one, two or sequential binding
sites)), flourescence binding models do not give very good estimate of
these parameters.  Thus, based on protein you should assume the model which
fits to the properties of the protein.

Good luck

Raj


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, MONICA MITTAL
monica.mitta...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear All,
  Firstly sorry for asking a non-crystallography
 question, but i want help in understanding the data analysis for fitting a
 protein-ligand binding data.
 Actually i have a protein which is a tetramer in solution and i have done
 its flourescence binding with a ligand. I am trying to fit the data to a
 4-site binding model in scientist. But i donot have a correct model to fit
 in the data for identical or non-identical, co-operative or sequential
 binding. Can anyone help me in analysing the binding data.
 Any help will be highly appreciated.
 Thankyou !