Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-08-03 Thread Jon Cooper
Thank you very much for all the helpful replies. I have summarised the discussion here: https://justpaste.it/9cfl9 Best wishes, Jon Cooper. jon.b.coo...@protonmail.com Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email.

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread David J. Schuller
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 9:56 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein). Hi Jon, There are placeholders for ASP/ASN and GLU/GLN ambiguities: ASX and GLX respectively. You can just use those. AFAICT there no such thing for VAL/THR

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Jon, There are placeholders for ASP/ASN and GLU/GLN ambiguities: ASX and GLX respectively. You can just use those. AFAICT there no such thing for VAL/THR ambiguities. You could look for the most likely canadidata based on multiple sequence alignments. Refinement of both alternatives can

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Jon Cooper
Thank you, yes, threading style tools to assess the likelihood of having a given amino acid in a certain position in the fold would be a good approach. I have tried one but wasn't hugely informative, in my hands anyway. All suggestions very welcome but big database science is a bit outside my

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Maybe a crazy idea, but couldn't one use various model/geometry validation tools to figure out some of those ambiguities? As a test one could take a very good 1.7A structure and do some random ASN->ASP, THR->VAL etc mutations followed by refinement (including hydrogens). Wouldn't some validation

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Natesh Ramanathan
Dear Jon, We did exactly the same back in 1999's. 1) Natesh R, Bhanumoorthy P, Vithayathil PJ, Sekar K, Ramakumar S, Viswamitra MA. (1999). Crystal structure at 1.8 Å resolution and proposed amino acid sequence of a thermostable xylanase from *Thermoascus aurantiacus*. J. Mol. Biol., 288,

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Jon Cooper
Thank you so much for your replies. I apologise for being unclear. The protein is purified from a plant that hasn't had its genome sequence determined. We know the enzyme family of the protein and therefore the structure was originally solved by MR. The 'X-ray sequence' we have is just

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking X-ray sequence (no more protein).

2022-07-29 Thread Jan Dohnalek
If you know at least something about your protein, organism, type of molecule, ..., you could try mass spectrometry peptide mapping to known sequences, this may give you some answers for the ambiguities you might be seeing, if nothing else .. Jan On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 12:15 PM Jon Cooper <