Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-27 Thread Stephen Weeks
, 2009 9:31 PM *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli Hi all, Once again I seem to have managed to kick up a minor debate on the bulletin board (Note to self no more posts on SUMO or Apple :-[ ). With quite a few years of experience

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-27 Thread artem
] On Behalf Of Stephen Weeks Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:31 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli Hi all, Once again I seem to have managed to kick up a minor debate on the bulletin board (Note to self no more posts on SUMO

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-27 Thread Narayanan Ramasubbu
, 2009 9:31 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli Hi all, Once again I seem to have managed to kick up a minor debate on the bulletin board (Note to self no more posts on SUMO or Apple :- [ ). With quite a few years of experience working

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-27 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hello, The short answer is 'yes'. If you can use both methods :) The issue with limited proteolysis lies in the questionable state of the full-length protein - if the stuff is nasty and misfolded, then fagments generated by proteolytic digest aren't going to be meaningful. On the other hand if

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-27 Thread Ho-Leung Ng
Most of the poorly cleavable fusion proteins (usually MBP-TEV) that I've seen turned out to be solubly aggregated. ho UC Berkeley -- Date:Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:23:43 -0500 From:Stephen Weeks stephen.we...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Off topic: Mammalian gene

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-26 Thread Brad Bennett
to drag such crud along with it? Phoebe Original message Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:48:57 -0500 From: Mo Wong mowon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Thanks to all who responded. Actually

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-26 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
nearly impossible to get rid of completely, thus ruining our ATPase assays. Is SUMO, being smaller, less likely to drag such crud along with it? Phoebe Original message Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:48:57 -0500 From: Mo Wong mowon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-26 Thread artem
impossible to get rid of completely, thus ruining our ATPase assays. Is SUMO, being smaller, less likely to drag such crud along with it? Phoebe Original message Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:48:57 -0500 From: Mo Wong mowon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-26 Thread Florian Sauer
. Is SUMO, being smaller, less likely to drag such crud along with it? Phoebe Original message Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:48:57 -0500 From: Mo Wong mowon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-26 Thread Stephen Weeks
Hi all, Once again I seem to have managed to kick up a minor debate on the bulletin board (Note to self no more posts on SUMO or Apple :-[ ). With quite a few years of experience working with SUMO I feel I can safely state that it is a good enhancer of fusion protein production in E. coli. I

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-25 Thread Mo Wong
Thanks to all who responded. Actually, this bulletin board is better for help with molecular biology than the molecular biology bulletin board I am subscribed to! On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Stephen Weeks stephen.we...@verizon.netwrote: Mo, Just to add my 50 cents, I didn't see any

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-25 Thread Jacob Keller
: 773.608.9185 email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu *** - Original Message - From: Raji Edayathumangalam To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-25 Thread Ho-Leung Ng
Some useful tips to try can be found at http://www.embl-hamburg.de/services/protein/production/expression/optimising_exprlevels.html I've had a recent case where an untagged protein (part of a complex) was not expressed at all but expressed well when tagged at the N-terminal with His6 or MBP.

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread artem
Hi, The question you have to ask yourself first is - does my gene actually *have* the rare codons that you're trying to avoid? Experience shows that usually it's not single codons that are a problem but pairs or triplets of rare ones. If your gene does not have obviously bad codon combinations

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread Mo Wong
Thanks for the reply. I've checked my sequence for rare codons; however, what would be useful to a pseudo-molecular biologist like me is a web server which will look at your input DNA sequence and guesstimate the success of expression in E. coli (i.e., consider codon frequency). Does one exist?

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread Partha Chakrabarti
Just to add couple of things to what Artem said.. If it is something similar to a mammalian kinase or malaria protein for example, 1. Recodonizaton can change expression from near zero to substantial amounts, however, a) ideally, it needs to be recodonized separately for each target expression

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread Raphael Gasper
This website is quite useful (via Expasy): http://gcua.schoedl.de/ Raphael Mo Wong schrieb: Thanks for the reply. I've checked my sequence for rare codons; however, what would be useful to a pseudo-molecular biologist like me is a web server which will look at your input DNA sequence and

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Mo, Gene synthesis is definitely something you should try if you can afford it. However, I would suggest also trying to change expression plasmid and in particular induction system and promoter system. For toxic proteins we had some success using the pBAD (invitrogen) expression system using

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread artem
Hi, Servers to check for rare codons definitely do exist. http://genomes.urv.es/OPTIMIZER/ http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/~sumchan/caltor.html and several others As to comparing Rosetta and Codon+ - your best bet here is just to dig up product literature from the manufacturers. Rosetta uses

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread Stephen Weeks
Mo, Just to add my 50 cents, I didn't see any mention of the use of fusion proteins in your original post. GST, MBP or my personal, and completely biased, favourite SUMO (plus many more proteins) have been shown to enhance expression when fused to the amino terminus of a target protein. If

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

2009-02-24 Thread atul kumar
Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Raphael Gasper Sent: Tue 2/24/2009 9:56 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli This website is quite useful (via Expasy): http://gcua.schoedl.de/ Raphael Mo Wong schrieb: Thanks