Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Adams
Dear Bob,

  Many thanks for posting this memory of Ward. It was such a sad shock to learn 
of his passing. Like many of the newsgroup readers I remember Ward as an 
outstanding colleague and program manager. It was my pleasure to talk with him 
regularly as my point of contact for Phenix and ALS-ENABLE funding. I will miss 
our calls and his sage advice and generous spirit. He will be greatly missed by 
many of us. 

  Paul

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Sweet, Robert 
> <27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm writing to acknowledge the passing of Ward Smith during the weekend of 5 
> July. Ward got his PhD with Martha Ludwig at U. of Michigan, and then came to 
> UCLA in 1977 to join Dave Eisenberg’s group as a postdoc. During the course 
> of things, he met Cheryl Janson, a Paul Boyer postdoc, and they were married 
> in 1980.  During his time at UCLA Ward became expert in operation of the 
> Xuong/Hamlin/Nielsen multi-wire system at UCSD and tutored the UCLA users in 
> its use. In 1985 Ward and Cheryl left UCLA and went to Monsanto in St. Louis, 
> where Ward worked as a structural biologist. In 1987 they went to Agouron 
> Pharmaceuticals in San Diego. And then in 1995 went cross-country to 
> SmithKline Beecham (which became Glaxo SmithKline, merging with 
> GlaxoWellcome). 
> 
> Ward was very involved with getting IMCA set up as a functional facility for 
> pharmaceuticals at Argonne as SmithKline's representative. This experience 
> gave him significant credibility in synchrotron macromolecular 
> crystallography, and in 2003 he joined the GM/CA-CAT beamlines at the APS to 
> help Bob Fischetti and others construct that excellent facility. During this 
> time Cheryl worked at Shamrock Structures.
> 
> Ward moved to the NIH headquarters in 2007. There he took some responsibility 
> for the Protein Structure Initiative, also playing an important role in 
> supporting NIH synchrotron facilities. In 2010 he became the branch chief for 
> the Structural Genomics and Proteomics Technology Branch in the Division of 
> Cell Biology and Biophysics.  He remained in that position through 2017. At 
> the 2018 NIGMS re-organization Ward went to the Biophysics, Biomedical 
> Technology, and Computational Biosciences division as the branch chief for 
> the Biomedical Technology Branch. 
> 
> Ward helped oversee the big NIH-funded, $45 M construction of three major 
> beamlines at NSLS-II, a project called ABBIX that ran 2011-2017. In 2017 he 
> became program director for NIH support of structural biology beamlines at 
> NSLS-II and other DOE synchrotrons. 
> 
> Many knew Ward for his always calm, reasoned demeanor; he was unflappable, 
> resilient, and friendly. He was well read and devoted to his family.  
> 
> 
>  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
>  Scientific Advisor, CBMS: The Center for BioMolecular
>Structure at NSLS-II
>  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
>  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
>  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
>  Phones: 631 344 3401  (Office)
>631 338 7302  (Mobile)
> 
> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2020-07-20 Thread Robert Stroud
I am deeply saddened to hear of Ward’s passing. He was a friend to many of us 
and a tremendous supporter of structural biology. I knew him since his time at 
Michigan. He championed the ways through applications of new innovations 
throughout the era of synchrotron technologies and increasing awareness of the 
possibilities they brought with them. As NIH program director he was always a 
source of insight and support for prospects and possibilities. 
Robert Stroud
str...@msg.ucsf.edu
415 987 7535



> On Jul 18, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Sweet, Robert 
> <27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm writing to acknowledge the passing of Ward Smith during the weekend of 5 
> July. Ward got his PhD with Martha Ludwig at U. of Michigan, and then came to 
> UCLA in 1977 to join Dave Eisenberg’s group as a postdoc. During the course 
> of things, he met Cheryl Janson, a Paul Boyer postdoc, and they were married 
> in 1980.  During his time at UCLA Ward became expert in operation of the 
> Xuong/Hamlin/Nielsen multi-wire system at UCSD and tutored the UCLA users in 
> its use. In 1985 Ward and Cheryl left UCLA and went to Monsanto in St. Louis, 
> where Ward worked as a structural biologist. In 1987 they went to Agouron 
> Pharmaceuticals in San Diego. And then in 1995 went cross-country to 
> SmithKline Beecham (which became Glaxo SmithKline, merging with 
> GlaxoWellcome). 
> 
> Ward was very involved with getting IMCA set up as a functional facility for 
> pharmaceuticals at Argonne as SmithKline's representative. This experience 
> gave him significant credibility in synchrotron macromolecular 
> crystallography, and in 2003 he joined the GM/CA-CAT beamlines at the APS to 
> help Bob Fischetti and others construct that excellent facility. During this 
> time Cheryl worked at Shamrock Structures.
> 
> Ward moved to the NIH headquarters in 2007. There he took some responsibility 
> for the Protein Structure Initiative, also playing an important role in 
> supporting NIH synchrotron facilities. In 2010 he became the branch chief for 
> the Structural Genomics and Proteomics Technology Branch in the Division of 
> Cell Biology and Biophysics.  He remained in that position through 2017. At 
> the 2018 NIGMS re-organization Ward went to the Biophysics, Biomedical 
> Technology, and Computational Biosciences division as the branch chief for 
> the Biomedical Technology Branch. 
> 
> Ward helped oversee the big NIH-funded, $45 M construction of three major 
> beamlines at NSLS-II, a project called ABBIX that ran 2011-2017. In 2017 he 
> became program director for NIH support of structural biology beamlines at 
> NSLS-II and other DOE synchrotrons. 
> 
> Many knew Ward for his always calm, reasoned demeanor; he was unflappable, 
> resilient, and friendly. He was well read and devoted to his family.  
> 
> 
>  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
>  Scientific Advisor, CBMS: The Center for BioMolecular
>Structure at NSLS-II
>  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
>  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
>  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
>  Phones: 631 344 3401  (Office)
>631 338 7302  (Mobile)
> 
> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2020-07-20 Thread Debanu Das
It is very saddening to hear this news. It took me a couple of days to wrap
my head around it and write.

Thank you for this obituary Bob, which captures so eloquently the breadth
of all of Ward's remarkable engagements and contributions.

I interacted with him a few times over the course of the Protein Structure
Initiative structural genomics programs at the BSGC and JCSG, and more
recently over the last couple of years as part of current endeavors. His
efforts contributed very significantly to everything I have been doing for
the past 15 years too. It is a tremendous loss but a life very well lived
with many important contributions to remember.

Best regards,
Debanu
--
Debanu Das,
Accelero Biostructures

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 4:55 PM James Holton  wrote:

> Ward was the Program Official for all my grants!  My life will not be
> the same without him.  He was always so supportive and helpful with
> advice on how to navigate the sometimes convoluted system that is the
> NIH.  From the Protein Structure Initiative to today his hard work has
> made possible my entire scientific career.
>
> "missed" doesn't seem to cover it. May your rest be a peaceful one, Ward.
>
> -James Holton
> MAD Scientist
>
> On 7/18/2020 4:36 AM, Sweet, Robert wrote:
> > I'm writing to acknowledge the passing of Ward Smith during the weekend
> of 5 July. Ward got his PhD with Martha Ludwig at U. of Michigan, and then
> came to UCLA in 1977 to join Dave Eisenberg’s group as a postdoc. During
> the course of things, he met Cheryl Janson, a Paul Boyer postdoc, and they
> were married in 1980.  During his time at UCLA Ward became expert in
> operation of the Xuong/Hamlin/Nielsen multi-wire system at UCSD and tutored
> the UCLA users in its use. In 1985 Ward and Cheryl left UCLA and went to
> Monsanto in St. Louis, where Ward worked as a structural biologist. In 1987
> they went to Agouron Pharmaceuticals in San Diego. And then in 1995 went
> cross-country to SmithKline Beecham (which became Glaxo SmithKline, merging
> with GlaxoWellcome).
> >
> > Ward was very involved with getting IMCA set up as a functional facility
> for pharmaceuticals at Argonne as SmithKline's representative. This
> experience gave him significant credibility in synchrotron macromolecular
> crystallography, and in 2003 he joined the GM/CA-CAT beamlines at the APS
> to help Bob Fischetti and others construct that excellent facility. During
> this time Cheryl worked at Shamrock Structures.
> >
> > Ward moved to the NIH headquarters in 2007. There he took some
> responsibility for the Protein Structure Initiative, also playing an
> important role in supporting NIH synchrotron facilities. In 2010 he became
> the branch chief for the Structural Genomics and Proteomics Technology
> Branch in the Division of Cell Biology and Biophysics.  He remained in that
> position through 2017. At the 2018 NIGMS re-organization Ward went to the
> Biophysics, Biomedical Technology, and Computational Biosciences division
> as the branch chief for the Biomedical Technology Branch.
> >
> > Ward helped oversee the big NIH-funded, $45 M construction of three
> major beamlines at NSLS-II, a project called ABBIX that ran 2011-2017. In
> 2017 he became program director for NIH support of structural biology
> beamlines at NSLS-II and other DOE synchrotrons.
> >
> > Many knew Ward for his always calm, reasoned demeanor; he was
> unflappable, resilient, and friendly. He was well read and devoted to his
> family.
> >
> > 
> >Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
> >Scientific Advisor, CBMS: The Center for BioMolecular
> >  Structure at NSLS-II
> >Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
> >Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
> >Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
> >Phones: 631 344 3401  (Office)
> >  631 338 7302  (Mobile)
> > 
> > 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2020-07-19 Thread James Holton
Ward was the Program Official for all my grants!  My life will not be 
the same without him.  He was always so supportive and helpful with 
advice on how to navigate the sometimes convoluted system that is the 
NIH.  From the Protein Structure Initiative to today his hard work has 
made possible my entire scientific career.


"missed" doesn't seem to cover it. May your rest be a peaceful one, Ward.

-James Holton
MAD Scientist

On 7/18/2020 4:36 AM, Sweet, Robert wrote:

I'm writing to acknowledge the passing of Ward Smith during the weekend of 5 
July. Ward got his PhD with Martha Ludwig at U. of Michigan, and then came to 
UCLA in 1977 to join Dave Eisenberg’s group as a postdoc. During the course of 
things, he met Cheryl Janson, a Paul Boyer postdoc, and they were married in 
1980.  During his time at UCLA Ward became expert in operation of the 
Xuong/Hamlin/Nielsen multi-wire system at UCSD and tutored the UCLA users in 
its use. In 1985 Ward and Cheryl left UCLA and went to Monsanto in St. Louis, 
where Ward worked as a structural biologist. In 1987 they went to Agouron 
Pharmaceuticals in San Diego. And then in 1995 went cross-country to SmithKline 
Beecham (which became Glaxo SmithKline, merging with GlaxoWellcome).

Ward was very involved with getting IMCA set up as a functional facility for 
pharmaceuticals at Argonne as SmithKline's representative. This experience gave 
him significant credibility in synchrotron macromolecular crystallography, and 
in 2003 he joined the GM/CA-CAT beamlines at the APS to help Bob Fischetti and 
others construct that excellent facility. During this time Cheryl worked at 
Shamrock Structures.

Ward moved to the NIH headquarters in 2007. There he took some responsibility 
for the Protein Structure Initiative, also playing an important role in 
supporting NIH synchrotron facilities. In 2010 he became the branch chief for 
the Structural Genomics and Proteomics Technology Branch in the Division of 
Cell Biology and Biophysics.  He remained in that position through 2017. At the 
2018 NIGMS re-organization Ward went to the Biophysics, Biomedical Technology, 
and Computational Biosciences division as the branch chief for the Biomedical 
Technology Branch.

Ward helped oversee the big NIH-funded, $45 M construction of three major 
beamlines at NSLS-II, a project called ABBIX that ran 2011-2017. In 2017 he 
became program director for NIH support of structural biology beamlines at 
NSLS-II and other DOE synchrotrons.

Many knew Ward for his always calm, reasoned demeanor; he was unflappable, 
resilient, and friendly. He was well read and devoted to his family.


   Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
   Scientific Advisor, CBMS: The Center for BioMolecular
 Structure at NSLS-II
   Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
   Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
   Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
   Phones: 631 344 3401  (Office)
 631 338 7302  (Mobile)



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Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2020-07-19 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
It’s with much sadness that I learn of Ward’s passing.

To add to Bob’s message: Ward was elected as Chair of the IMCA’s supervisory 
Board. He lead us through some difficult decisions, and always with a great 
sense of humor

Thierry 

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Sweet, Robert 
> <27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> EXTERNAL EMAIL – Use caution with any links or file attachments.
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> I'm writing to acknowledge the passing of Ward Smith during the weekend of 5 
> July. Ward got his PhD with Martha Ludwig at U. of Michigan, and then came to 
> UCLA in 1977 to join Dave Eisenberg’s group as a postdoc. During the course 
> of things, he met Cheryl Janson, a Paul Boyer postdoc, and they were married 
> in 1980.  During his time at UCLA Ward became expert in operation of the 
> Xuong/Hamlin/Nielsen multi-wire system at UCSD and tutored the UCLA users in 
> its use. In 1985 Ward and Cheryl left UCLA and went to Monsanto in St. Louis, 
> where Ward worked as a structural biologist. In 1987 they went to Agouron 
> Pharmaceuticals in San Diego. And then in 1995 went cross-country to 
> SmithKline Beecham (which became Glaxo SmithKline, merging with 
> GlaxoWellcome). 
> 
> Ward was very involved with getting IMCA set up as a functional facility for 
> pharmaceuticals at Argonne as SmithKline's representative. This experience 
> gave him significant credibility in synchrotron macromolecular 
> crystallography, and in 2003 he joined the GM/CA-CAT beamlines at the APS to 
> help Bob Fischetti and others construct that excellent facility. During this 
> time Cheryl worked at Shamrock Structures.
> 
> Ward moved to the NIH headquarters in 2007. There he took some responsibility 
> for the Protein Structure Initiative, also playing an important role in 
> supporting NIH synchrotron facilities. In 2010 he became the branch chief for 
> the Structural Genomics and Proteomics Technology Branch in the Division of 
> Cell Biology and Biophysics.  He remained in that position through 2017. At 
> the 2018 NIGMS re-organization Ward went to the Biophysics, Biomedical 
> Technology, and Computational Biosciences division as the branch chief for 
> the Biomedical Technology Branch. 
> 
> Ward helped oversee the big NIH-funded, $45 M construction of three major 
> beamlines at NSLS-II, a project called ABBIX that ran 2011-2017. In 2017 he 
> became program director for NIH support of structural biology beamlines at 
> NSLS-II and other DOE synchrotrons. 
> 
> Many knew Ward for his always calm, reasoned demeanor; he was unflappable, 
> resilient, and friendly. He was well read and devoted to his family.  
> 
> 
>  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
>  Scientific Advisor, CBMS: The Center for BioMolecular
>Structure at NSLS-II
>  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
>  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
>  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
>  Phones: 631 344 3401  (Office)
>631 338 7302  (Mobile)
> 
> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2012-02-29 Thread Charles Ballard
Dear All

the message originated from a yahoo account that had been registered since 
2007.  We have delisted  the account.

Charles Ballard
CCP4

On 28 Feb 2012, at 17:46, William G. Scott wrote:

> I thought it was some sort of allegory for tenure-track faculty positions.
> 
> 
> -- Bill
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Gerard Bricogne wrote:
> 
>> Dear Smita,
>> 
>>For me, your story mostly illustrates the grave dangers of wanting to
>> own a BMW while still in high school ... ;-) . 
>> 
>> 
>>With best wishes,
>> 
>> Gerard.
>> 
>> --
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:02:42AM -0600, Smita Mohanty wrote:
>>> Yes, this is of course a scam.  My husband was almost duped by someone
>>> who wrote in the name of a close friend saying that he got mugged in
>>> Europe and to send money to return to USA. My husband of course was
>>> ready to send for his colleague but just gave a call to his friend to
>>> make this not a scam.  Of course, it was a scam.  
>>> 
>>> Only last night we saved ourselves from another scam.  I think it is
>>> good share with the group.  My son (in high school) found a 2005 BMW X5
>>> on an internet site.  The car's blue book price is $26,000 but the
>>> asking price by the seller is $2775.  Sounds too good to be true.   But
>>> when my son (who dreams to own a BMW) contacted the owner (Amanda
>>> Stone), she replied him immediately saying her son died two months back
>>> in an automobile accident hit by a drunk driver while riding his
>>> fiancee's car.  She simply wants to sell the car so that someone else
>>> can use it and she is not interested in making money.  She said that she
>>> has a deal with e-bay and that the car will be shipped by e-bay to the
>>> buyer once the buyer pays the price that will be hold by e-bay.  The
>>> buyer has 5 days to check the car out and if decides not to buy, the car
>>> will be shipped back to e-bay at seller's cost and buyer gets back his
>>> money.  She sent an invoice that was from e-bay with e-bay logo and
>>> exactly looking genuine.
>>> 
>>> She sent car pictures and Vin and my husband checked the car out with
>>> car fax.  She wanted the money to be sent to a e-bay financial expert
>>> through moneygram although she sent name and address of an e-bay expert.
>>> That is when my husband called up e-bay just to make sure before he
>>> send the moneygram out.  That is when e-bay told him this is a scam and
>>> that e-bay never asks for moneygram.  That all transactions are done on
>>> e-bay site only and that e-bay does not get any contract like the one we
>>> had.  E-bay told us that their logo has/can be copied to make an invoice
>>> appears to have come from them.  Of course, we went all communications
>>> and invoice to e-bay.  We lost only $35 for car fax.
>>> 
>>> Lesson: we need to be aware of any advertisements on internet or
>>> unsolicited e-mails.  Here is a site to read about different scams-
>>> 
>>> http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/be_crime_smart 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Smita 
>>> 
>> Vellieux Frederic  2/28/2012 7:01 AM >>>
>>> From: regnicat@, reply to: regniica@...
>>> 
>>> Somehow I don't believe someone in such a situation would write to 
>>> ccp4bb instead of calling the family back home. Using Skype since there
>>> 
>>> is apparently internet access !
>>> 
>>> And I rather view with my mind's eye someone sitting in an internet
>>> cafe 
>>> in (say) Lagos, or the Paris suburbs or Kingston or...
>>> 
>>> Fred
>>> 
>>> Catherine Regni wrote:
 I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came over here
>>> 
 to Madrid,Spain for a short vacation. unfortunately,we were  mugged
>>> at 
 the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were 
 stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with
>>> us.
 
 We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not
>>> helping 
 issues at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're 
 having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't
>>> 
 let us leave until we settle the bills. Well I really need your 
 financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help us out? Am
>>> 
 freaked out at the Moment.
 
 Catherine Regni..
 
 Catherine Regni, Ph.D.
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2012-02-28 Thread William G. Scott
I thought it was some sort of allegory for tenure-track faculty positions.


-- Bill



On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

> Dear Smita,
> 
> For me, your story mostly illustrates the grave dangers of wanting to
> own a BMW while still in high school ... ;-) . 
> 
> 
> With best wishes,
> 
>  Gerard.
> 
> --
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:02:42AM -0600, Smita Mohanty wrote:
>> Yes, this is of course a scam.  My husband was almost duped by someone
>> who wrote in the name of a close friend saying that he got mugged in
>> Europe and to send money to return to USA. My husband of course was
>> ready to send for his colleague but just gave a call to his friend to
>> make this not a scam.  Of course, it was a scam.  
>> 
>> Only last night we saved ourselves from another scam.  I think it is
>> good share with the group.  My son (in high school) found a 2005 BMW X5
>> on an internet site.  The car's blue book price is $26,000 but the
>> asking price by the seller is $2775.  Sounds too good to be true.   But
>> when my son (who dreams to own a BMW) contacted the owner (Amanda
>> Stone), she replied him immediately saying her son died two months back
>> in an automobile accident hit by a drunk driver while riding his
>> fiancee's car.  She simply wants to sell the car so that someone else
>> can use it and she is not interested in making money.  She said that she
>> has a deal with e-bay and that the car will be shipped by e-bay to the
>> buyer once the buyer pays the price that will be hold by e-bay.  The
>> buyer has 5 days to check the car out and if decides not to buy, the car
>> will be shipped back to e-bay at seller's cost and buyer gets back his
>> money.  She sent an invoice that was from e-bay with e-bay logo and
>> exactly looking genuine.
>> 
>> She sent car pictures and Vin and my husband checked the car out with
>> car fax.  She wanted the money to be sent to a e-bay financial expert
>> through moneygram although she sent name and address of an e-bay expert.
>> That is when my husband called up e-bay just to make sure before he
>> send the moneygram out.  That is when e-bay told him this is a scam and
>> that e-bay never asks for moneygram.  That all transactions are done on
>> e-bay site only and that e-bay does not get any contract like the one we
>> had.  E-bay told us that their logo has/can be copied to make an invoice
>> appears to have come from them.  Of course, we went all communications
>> and invoice to e-bay.  We lost only $35 for car fax.
>> 
>> Lesson: we need to be aware of any advertisements on internet or
>> unsolicited e-mails.  Here is a site to read about different scams-
>> 
>> http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/be_crime_smart 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Smita 
>> 
> Vellieux Frederic  2/28/2012 7:01 AM >>>
>> From: regnicat@, reply to: regniica@...
>> 
>> Somehow I don't believe someone in such a situation would write to 
>> ccp4bb instead of calling the family back home. Using Skype since there
>> 
>> is apparently internet access !
>> 
>> And I rather view with my mind's eye someone sitting in an internet
>> cafe 
>> in (say) Lagos, or the Paris suburbs or Kingston or...
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> Catherine Regni wrote:
>>> I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came over here
>> 
>>> to Madrid,Spain for a short vacation. unfortunately,we were  mugged
>> at 
>>> the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were 
>>> stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with
>> us.
>>> 
>>> We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not
>> helping 
>>> issues at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're 
>>> having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't
>> 
>>> let us leave until we settle the bills. Well I really need your 
>>> financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help us out? Am
>> 
>>> freaked out at the Moment.
>>> 
>>> Catherine Regni..
>>> 
>>> Catherine Regni, Ph.D.
>>> 


Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News, Defend our CCP4BB community

2012-02-28 Thread Debasish Chattopadhyay
I wonder if it is time to restrict users who places these discussions on the 
board.  If each of us spend even a minute on such a subject, it is such a huge 
waste of time.

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Wenhua 
Zhang
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:13 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News, Defend our CCP4BB community

Dear all,

   I see that the CCP4BB community is becoming less pure due to our 
failure to post structure determination-oriented inquiries and questions 
that can't be answered by googling them.
   Let's filter our questions before attempting to post.

   Wenhua

On 2/28/2012 4:16 PM, Gerard Bricogne wrote:
> Dear Smita,
>
>   For me, your story mostly illustrates the grave dangers of wanting to
> own a BMW while still in high school ... ;-) .
>
>
>   With best wishes,
>
>Gerard.
>
> --
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:02:42AM -0600, Smita Mohanty wrote:
>> Yes, this is of course a scam.  My husband was almost duped by someone
>> who wrote in the name of a close friend saying that he got mugged in
>> Europe and to send money to return to USA. My husband of course was
>> ready to send for his colleague but just gave a call to his friend to
>> make this not a scam.  Of course, it was a scam.
>>
>> Only last night we saved ourselves from another scam.  I think it is
>> good share with the group.  My son (in high school) found a 2005 BMW X5
>> on an internet site.  The car's blue book price is $26,000 but the
>> asking price by the seller is $2775.  Sounds too good to be true.   But
>> when my son (who dreams to own a BMW) contacted the owner (Amanda
>> Stone), she replied him immediately saying her son died two months back
>> in an automobile accident hit by a drunk driver while riding his
>> fiancee's car.  She simply wants to sell the car so that someone else
>> can use it and she is not interested in making money.  She said that she
>> has a deal with e-bay and that the car will be shipped by e-bay to the
>> buyer once the buyer pays the price that will be hold by e-bay.  The
>> buyer has 5 days to check the car out and if decides not to buy, the car
>> will be shipped back to e-bay at seller's cost and buyer gets back his
>> money.  She sent an invoice that was from e-bay with e-bay logo and
>> exactly looking genuine.
>>
>> She sent car pictures and Vin and my husband checked the car out with
>> car fax.  She wanted the money to be sent to a e-bay financial expert
>> through moneygram although she sent name and address of an e-bay expert.
>>   That is when my husband called up e-bay just to make sure before he
>> send the moneygram out.  That is when e-bay told him this is a scam and
>> that e-bay never asks for moneygram.  That all transactions are done on
>> e-bay site only and that e-bay does not get any contract like the one we
>> had.  E-bay told us that their logo has/can be copied to make an invoice
>> appears to have come from them.  Of course, we went all communications
>> and invoice to e-bay.  We lost only $35 for car fax.
>>
>> Lesson: we need to be aware of any advertisements on internet or
>> unsolicited e-mails.  Here is a site to read about different scams-
>>
>> http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/be_crime_smart
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Smita
>>
>>>>> Vellieux Frederic  2/28/2012 7:01 AM>>>
>> From: regnicat@, reply to: regniica@...
>>
>> Somehow I don't believe someone in such a situation would write to
>> ccp4bb instead of calling the family back home. Using Skype since there
>>
>> is apparently internet access !
>>
>> And I rather view with my mind's eye someone sitting in an internet
>> cafe
>> in (say) Lagos, or the Paris suburbs or Kingston or...
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> Catherine Regni wrote:
>>> I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came over here
>>> to Madrid,Spain for a short vacation. unfortunately,we were  mugged
>> at
>>> the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were
>>> stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with
>> us.
>>>   We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not
>> helping
>>> issues at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're
>>> having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't
>>> let us leave until we settle the bills. Well I really need your
>>> financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help us out? Am
>>> freaked out at the Moment.
>>>
>>> Catherine Regni..
>>>
>>> Catherine Regni, Ph.D.
>>>


Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News, Defend our CCP4BB community

2012-02-28 Thread Wenhua Zhang

Dear all,

  I see that the CCP4BB community is becoming less pure due to our 
failure to post structure determination-oriented inquiries and questions 
that can't be answered by googling them.

  Let's filter our questions before attempting to post.

  Wenhua

On 2/28/2012 4:16 PM, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

Dear Smita,

  For me, your story mostly illustrates the grave dangers of wanting to
own a BMW while still in high school ... ;-) .


  With best wishes,

   Gerard.

--
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:02:42AM -0600, Smita Mohanty wrote:

Yes, this is of course a scam.  My husband was almost duped by someone
who wrote in the name of a close friend saying that he got mugged in
Europe and to send money to return to USA. My husband of course was
ready to send for his colleague but just gave a call to his friend to
make this not a scam.  Of course, it was a scam.

Only last night we saved ourselves from another scam.  I think it is
good share with the group.  My son (in high school) found a 2005 BMW X5
on an internet site.  The car's blue book price is $26,000 but the
asking price by the seller is $2775.  Sounds too good to be true.   But
when my son (who dreams to own a BMW) contacted the owner (Amanda
Stone), she replied him immediately saying her son died two months back
in an automobile accident hit by a drunk driver while riding his
fiancee's car.  She simply wants to sell the car so that someone else
can use it and she is not interested in making money.  She said that she
has a deal with e-bay and that the car will be shipped by e-bay to the
buyer once the buyer pays the price that will be hold by e-bay.  The
buyer has 5 days to check the car out and if decides not to buy, the car
will be shipped back to e-bay at seller's cost and buyer gets back his
money.  She sent an invoice that was from e-bay with e-bay logo and
exactly looking genuine.

She sent car pictures and Vin and my husband checked the car out with
car fax.  She wanted the money to be sent to a e-bay financial expert
through moneygram although she sent name and address of an e-bay expert.
  That is when my husband called up e-bay just to make sure before he
send the moneygram out.  That is when e-bay told him this is a scam and
that e-bay never asks for moneygram.  That all transactions are done on
e-bay site only and that e-bay does not get any contract like the one we
had.  E-bay told us that their logo has/can be copied to make an invoice
appears to have come from them.  Of course, we went all communications
and invoice to e-bay.  We lost only $35 for car fax.

Lesson: we need to be aware of any advertisements on internet or
unsolicited e-mails.  Here is a site to read about different scams-

http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/be_crime_smart

Thanks,

Smita


Vellieux Frederic  2/28/2012 7:01 AM>>>

From: regnicat@, reply to: regniica@...

Somehow I don't believe someone in such a situation would write to
ccp4bb instead of calling the family back home. Using Skype since there

is apparently internet access !

And I rather view with my mind's eye someone sitting in an internet
cafe
in (say) Lagos, or the Paris suburbs or Kingston or...

Fred

Catherine Regni wrote:

I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came over here
to Madrid,Spain for a short vacation. unfortunately,we were  mugged

at

the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were
stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with

us.

  We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not

helping

issues at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're
having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't
let us leave until we settle the bills. Well I really need your
financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help us out? Am
freaked out at the Moment.

Catherine Regni..

Catherine Regni, Ph.D.



Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2012-02-28 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Smita,

 For me, your story mostly illustrates the grave dangers of wanting to
own a BMW while still in high school ... ;-) . 


 With best wishes,
 
  Gerard.

--
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:02:42AM -0600, Smita Mohanty wrote:
> Yes, this is of course a scam.  My husband was almost duped by someone
> who wrote in the name of a close friend saying that he got mugged in
> Europe and to send money to return to USA. My husband of course was
> ready to send for his colleague but just gave a call to his friend to
> make this not a scam.  Of course, it was a scam.  
> 
> Only last night we saved ourselves from another scam.  I think it is
> good share with the group.  My son (in high school) found a 2005 BMW X5
> on an internet site.  The car's blue book price is $26,000 but the
> asking price by the seller is $2775.  Sounds too good to be true.   But
> when my son (who dreams to own a BMW) contacted the owner (Amanda
> Stone), she replied him immediately saying her son died two months back
> in an automobile accident hit by a drunk driver while riding his
> fiancee's car.  She simply wants to sell the car so that someone else
> can use it and she is not interested in making money.  She said that she
> has a deal with e-bay and that the car will be shipped by e-bay to the
> buyer once the buyer pays the price that will be hold by e-bay.  The
> buyer has 5 days to check the car out and if decides not to buy, the car
> will be shipped back to e-bay at seller's cost and buyer gets back his
> money.  She sent an invoice that was from e-bay with e-bay logo and
> exactly looking genuine.
> 
> She sent car pictures and Vin and my husband checked the car out with
> car fax.  She wanted the money to be sent to a e-bay financial expert
> through moneygram although she sent name and address of an e-bay expert.
>  That is when my husband called up e-bay just to make sure before he
> send the moneygram out.  That is when e-bay told him this is a scam and
> that e-bay never asks for moneygram.  That all transactions are done on
> e-bay site only and that e-bay does not get any contract like the one we
> had.  E-bay told us that their logo has/can be copied to make an invoice
> appears to have come from them.  Of course, we went all communications
> and invoice to e-bay.  We lost only $35 for car fax.
> 
> Lesson: we need to be aware of any advertisements on internet or
> unsolicited e-mails.  Here is a site to read about different scams-
> 
> http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/be_crime_smart 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Smita 
> 
> >>> Vellieux Frederic  2/28/2012 7:01 AM >>>
> From: regnicat@, reply to: regniica@...
> 
> Somehow I don't believe someone in such a situation would write to 
> ccp4bb instead of calling the family back home. Using Skype since there
> 
> is apparently internet access !
> 
> And I rather view with my mind's eye someone sitting in an internet
> cafe 
> in (say) Lagos, or the Paris suburbs or Kingston or...
> 
> Fred
> 
> Catherine Regni wrote:
> > I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came over here
> 
> > to Madrid,Spain for a short vacation. unfortunately,we were  mugged
> at 
> > the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were 
> > stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with
> us.
> >
> >  We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not
> helping 
> > issues at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're 
> > having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't
> 
> > let us leave until we settle the bills. Well I really need your 
> > financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help us out? Am
> 
> > freaked out at the Moment.
> >
> > Catherine Regni..
> >
> > Catherine Regni, Ph.D.
> >


Re: [ccp4bb] Sad News

2012-02-28 Thread Smita Mohanty
Yes, this is of course a scam.  My husband was almost duped by someone
who wrote in the name of a close friend saying that he got mugged in
Europe and to send money to return to USA. My husband of course was
ready to send for his colleague but just gave a call to his friend to
make this not a scam.  Of course, it was a scam.  

Only last night we saved ourselves from another scam.  I think it is
good share with the group.  My son (in high school) found a 2005 BMW X5
on an internet site.  The car's blue book price is $26,000 but the
asking price by the seller is $2775.  Sounds too good to be true.   But
when my son (who dreams to own a BMW) contacted the owner (Amanda
Stone), she replied him immediately saying her son died two months back
in an automobile accident hit by a drunk driver while riding his
fiancee's car.  She simply wants to sell the car so that someone else
can use it and she is not interested in making money.  She said that she
has a deal with e-bay and that the car will be shipped by e-bay to the
buyer once the buyer pays the price that will be hold by e-bay.  The
buyer has 5 days to check the car out and if decides not to buy, the car
will be shipped back to e-bay at seller's cost and buyer gets back his
money.  She sent an invoice that was from e-bay with e-bay logo and
exactly looking genuine.

She sent car pictures and Vin and my husband checked the car out with
car fax.  She wanted the money to be sent to a e-bay financial expert
through moneygram although she sent name and address of an e-bay expert.
 That is when my husband called up e-bay just to make sure before he
send the moneygram out.  That is when e-bay told him this is a scam and
that e-bay never asks for moneygram.  That all transactions are done on
e-bay site only and that e-bay does not get any contract like the one we
had.  E-bay told us that their logo has/can be copied to make an invoice
appears to have come from them.  Of course, we went all communications
and invoice to e-bay.  We lost only $35 for car fax.

Lesson: we need to be aware of any advertisements on internet or
unsolicited e-mails.  Here is a site to read about different scams-

http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/be_crime_smart 

Thanks,

Smita 

>>> Vellieux Frederic  2/28/2012 7:01 AM >>>
From: regnicat@, reply to: regniica@...

Somehow I don't believe someone in such a situation would write to 
ccp4bb instead of calling the family back home. Using Skype since there

is apparently internet access !

And I rather view with my mind's eye someone sitting in an internet
cafe 
in (say) Lagos, or the Paris suburbs or Kingston or...

Fred

Catherine Regni wrote:
> I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came over here

> to Madrid,Spain for a short vacation. unfortunately,we were  mugged
at 
> the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were 
> stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with
us.
>
>  We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not
helping 
> issues at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're 
> having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't

> let us leave until we settle the bills. Well I really need your 
> financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help us out? Am

> freaked out at the Moment.
>
> Catherine Regni..
>
> Catherine Regni, Ph.D.
>