Re: [ccp4bb] monomer/dimer protein

2014-08-14 Thread Shane Caldwell
Hi Todd, Do you mean reversible or irreversible dimers? If the binding is reversible, then once crystal growth starts, Le Chatelier's principle should take over, pull the equilibrium toward monomer, and you should see minimal impact of dimer on your monomer crystals. The same would be true in

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-11 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Dear all, If I may add that I find the statement First, remember that gel filtration elution volumes are independent of conditions like flow rate and protein concentration (unless there are nonspecific interactions at high concentration), but like I described before temp is a factor. a

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-11 Thread Maia Cherney
Thank you. Now I understand the difference. I thought there was separation. Maia Xuewu Zhang wrote: Hi Maia, I have seen your post regarding this before and I just want to point out that you may have confused AUC (analytical ultracentrifugation) with gradient-based ultra-centrifugation

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-11 Thread Maia Cherney
Hi ccp4bb Could you please send me some references with the sedimentation equilibrium calculations of Kd, monomer/dimer ratio etc. Maia Maia Cherney wrote: Thank you. Now I understand the difference. I thought there was separation. Maia Xuewu Zhang wrote: Hi Maia, I have seen your post

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-11 Thread Kushol Gupta
Hi Maia, this review and website might be a good place to start: http://analyticalultracentrifugation.com/images/AUCinProteinScience.pdf http://analyticalultracentrifugation.com/default.htm Kushol Kushol Gupta, Ph.D. Research Associate Van Duyne Laboratory - HHMI/Univ. of Pennsylvania School

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-11 Thread Michael Thompson
- Original Message - From: Anastassis Perrakis a.perra...@nki.nl To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:10:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer Dear all, If I may add that I find the statement First, remember that gel filtration

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-09 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello Intekhab, Your results do not seem surprising at all. It is not uncommon for molecular interactions such as dimerization to be more stable at lower temperatures, and this is exactly why you are seeing the shift to higher elution volumes at lower tempratures. At lower temperatures, both

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-09 Thread Maia Cherney
To determine the oligomeric state of a protein (monomer or dimer in your case), it's useful to use the PISA server. You upload your pdb file from the crystal structure.The server calculates the areas of interfaces (buried area) and deltaG (change in Gibbs energy) upon oligomer dissociation.

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-09 Thread Bostjan Kobe
Dear Intekhab Let me just add to this that gel filtration is not an accurate method for determination of molecular mass, because the migration on the column depends on the shape of the protein. The following methods can be used to determine molecular mass irrespective of shape: - MALLS

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-09 Thread intekhab alam
Dear That was a quite enlightening discussion!! I am grateful to you guys for your time!! I will definitily try some of these to get a clear answer. Regards Intekhab alam On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Bostjan Kobe b.k...@uq.edu.au wrote: Dear Intekhab Let me just add to this that gel

Re: [ccp4bb] monomer-dimer

2010-08-09 Thread Richard Edward Gillilan
Small angle x-ray solution scattering (SAXS) can also give you molecular weight, though not quite as accurately as the best static light scattering. While SAXS is preferably done on monodisperse systems extrapolated to infinite dilution, cases in which the monomer and dimer are in equilibrium