Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-07 Thread Tim Gruene
way to use something similar like FVAR in a pdb > >> file? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Dr. Matthias Barone > >> > >> AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design > >> > >> Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakolo

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-06 Thread Phil Jeffrey
rmakologie (FMP) Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10 13125 Berlin Germany Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284 From: bogba...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:01:14 PM To: Barone, Matthias Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelx

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-06 Thread Tim Gruene
rsday, February 6, 2020 5:01:14 PM > To: Barone, Matthias > Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl > > > Hello, hope I can help. > > > OK, so here is the disp table... > > SFAC C H CL N O > > DISP $C 0.005

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-06 Thread Mitchell D. Miller
ert-Rössle-Strasse 10 13125 Berlin Germany Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284 From: bogba...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:01:14 PM To: Barone, Matthias Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl Hello, hope I can help

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-06 Thread 00000c2488af9525-dmarc-request
94793-284 From: bogbasic@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:01:14 PM To: Barone, Matthias Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl   Hello, hope I can help. OK, so here is the disp table... SFAC  C H CL N O  

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-06 Thread Barone, Matthias
10 13125 Berlin Germany Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284 From: bogba...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:01:14 PM To: Barone, Matthias Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl Hello, hope I can help. OK, so

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-06 Thread 00000c2488af9525-dmarc-request
uesday, February 4, 2020 9:24:24 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl   Dear Jon, in SHELX(L), you can name your atoms foo and bar, or jon and doe, if you like. The scattering factor is derived from the number next to the name. The name is

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
ehne, Rational Drug Design > > Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP) > Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10 > 13125 Berlin > > Germany > Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284 > -- > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Tim > Gruene

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-04 Thread 00000c2488af9525-dmarc-request
Thanks, sorry, shelx is wonderful! I was thinking back to shelxpro days when your hetero-atoms could acquire the wrong scattering factors if they were not positioned right in the pdb file. The classic, which I saw several times, was calcium (CA) being treated as an alpha-carbon (CA), and I think

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-04 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Jon, in SHELX(L), you can name your atoms foo and bar, or jon and doe, if you like. The scattering factor is derived from the number next to the name. The name is just that, and identifier. Best, Tim On Monday, February 3, 2020 9:20:03 PM CET 0c2488af9525-dmarc-

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-03 Thread 00000c2488af9525-dmarc-request
14:25 PM To: Barone, Matthias Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl   Hi Matthias, did you use correct model parameterization and optimal refinement strategy for the resolution? Such as: - Add H atoms; - Refine all but H atoms with anisot

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-03 Thread Barone, Matthias
7:14:25 PM To: Barone, Matthias Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl Hi Matthias, did you use correct model parameterization and optimal refinement strategy for the resolution? Such as: - Add H atoms; - Refine all but H atoms with anisotropic ADPs

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-03 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Matthias, did you use correct model parameterization and optimal refinement strategy for the resolution? Such as: - Add H atoms; - Refine all but H atoms with anisotropic ADPs; - Model alternative conformations (that one'd expect many at this resolution); - Add solvent (water, crystallization

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-03 Thread 00000c2488af9525-dmarc-request
Hello, sorry if this is a really obvious question, but have you used the ANIS option? I remember it is good at cleaning-up difference density around halogen atoms that sort of resolution.Jon CooperOn 3 Feb 2020 11:08, "Barone, Matthias" wrote: Dear ccp4 community Im having some problems

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-03 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Maybe the figures were just contoured odd...but my recollection of a good 0.8 A map appearance is differentwhich might be consistent with the high Rf...a look at the high res data or images/stats might help? Best, br On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 14:58 George Sheldrick wrote: > Dear Matthias, > > >

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-03 Thread George Sheldrick
Dear Matthias, That is very strange. First please repeat the shelxl refinement with the occupancy of the offending chlorine(s) in the .ins file changed from 11  (i.e. fixed at 1.0) to 1.0 (i.e. freely refined starting from 1.0). If that does not help I would be happy to look at it in

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement of 0.73A data in shelxl

2020-02-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The maps look beautiful, but maybe the high resolution data is refining poorly. Not sure how to do this with phenix or SHELX but REFMAC gives you a plot of and v resolution. You sometimes see wild divergence in some resolution shells. Looking at Rfactors v resolution can also highlight such