> All the email clients I have are top posting get with the times you guys
I have no desire to 'get with the times' -- this is classiccmp after all.
If your mail program doesn't let you scroll to the end of a message and
start typing then it is fundametnally broken. It may not be convenient,
It was written by two people
-
>> I hear that Donald Trump top-posts...
>
> also
> Michael Dell
> Carly Fiorina
> Mark Zuckerberg
> Sarah Palin
> Meg Whitman
> Paris Hilton
> Bill Gates
>
And he is one of the smartest finatual men in the world and soon he will be
your
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jacob
> Ritorto
> Sent: 10 December 2015 09:26
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only
> Subject: 11/73 into 11/03 chassis?
>
> Hi,
> My Micro's power supply blew and I wanted to be in a
On 12/10/15 8:47 AM, et...@757.org wrote:
Self hosted mail systems for the win.
Sadly, I'm seeing more and more organizations abandoning hosting their own mail
servers (and mailing lists) because it has become too much of a PITA to keep
spam / being blacklisted
under control.
CHM is in the
sudo mv thread /dev/null
On 09-12-15 22:58, Jay West wrote:
Please make an effort not to top-post :|
J
--
Met vriendelijke Groet,
Simon Claessen
drukknop.nl
One complete Ashton Tate set, including XT keyboard template.
A couple of Borland dBaseIV (version 1 and 2) sets. Two sets still shrink
wrapped.
Make an offer plus postage or they're off to the recycle bin. Shipping from New
Jersey, USA
Kelly
From: Liam Proven
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:33 AM
> On 10 December 2015 at 16:54, > wrote:
>> Bad news is Gmail never deletes your emails, ever. They remove them from
>> your view but keep it on their servers for profiling you.
> *I* never delete my emails. I have a
On 10/12/2015 18:27, Jay West wrote:
I'd be happy to host the site for you - gratis - on the classiccmp server.
J
Oh! Thats nice of you Jay. I had not considered doing it that way.
I'd got as far as finding out you can get a tracker to keep a domain
name linked to
whatever your current
wasn't there a diff. in the buss for the 11/73 proc card? and the
11/03 card? something slight as my foggy brain Ed#
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/10/2015 12:18 AM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
for LBA:
while ( pata_bsy() ) {}
write_io_register ( PATA_RW_SECTOR_COUNT_REGISTER, 1 );
write_io_register ( PATA_RW_SECTOR_NUMBER_REGISTER, 0 );
write_io_register ( PATA_RW_CYLINDER_LOW_REGISTER, 0 );
On 12/10/2015 12:18 AM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
for LBA:
while ( pata_bsy() ) {}
write_io_register ( PATA_RW_SECTOR_COUNT_REGISTER, 1 );
write_io_register ( PATA_RW_SECTOR_NUMBER_REGISTER, 0 );
write_io_register ( PATA_RW_CYLINDER_LOW_REGISTER, 0 );
write_io_register (
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Marc Verdiell wrote:
> Alexandre,
> I have the SCSI pre-processor too, but not the precious software that goes
> with it. Do you happen to have it? I'll contact you offline.
> Marc
Which one?
I have never found the config and IA
*I* never delete my emails. I have a trail back to 1994. So?
Also, [[Citation needed]] for paranoid ravings.
http://www.brighthub.com/internet/google/articles/80100.aspx
Just random googling, that says they delete deleted messages generally
within 60 days but do leave a hole for offline
Is there a URL for your panel picture gallery, Rod?
-
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/09/2015 09:58 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
And this is whst I do/did. The drive supports LBA. I also tried CHS
with it and oft course i used cyl 0, head 0 and sector 1 without
success.
I now ordered a cheap chinese LA
When you say that you get an
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:39:31AM -0500, Mike wrote:
> What is your favorite CREEPYPASTA?
>
> I read one tonight called exploration of room -B. . .
>
> What are your fav'z? I am not a fan of the ones about games or the lame
> ones like Jeff the killer, Slenderman, Five nights at Freddy's ecp
I have a mint copy with all the passwords if you need a copy of the
passwords let me know I am going to have to type them in because they
are printed on DARK brown paper with black text you cant scan it I tried
so let me know if any of ya need them...
Also it surprisingly has pretty good graphics
On 12/09/2015 05:17 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
> Jules,
>
> C-64 key / case colors are just a matter of where and when it was produced.
> IIRC the original units had the Orange FN keys, with gray coming later.
> Case colors changed too, not sure when / why - but it might have something
> to do with
On 12/10/2015 03:48 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:39:31AM -0500, Mike wrote:
>> What is your favorite CREEPYPASTA?
>>
>> I read one tonight called exploration of room -B. . .
>>
>> What are your fav'z? I am not a fan of the ones about games or the lame
>> ones like Jeff
On 12/09/2015 04:30 PM, Jules Richardson wrote:
> On 12/09/2015 10:12 AM, Mike wrote:
>> Are there any other Commodore 64 users out there?
>
> Funny, I just picked up two boxed machines today, along with a 1541,
> docs, cables, modem, and a VIC-1525 printer. I've not brought
> everything inside
Honestly, in the eighties playing Zork, When the thief looked like me, I
got good and wigged out, powered off the C64 and went straight to bed, real
scared. But that was text and I was a pre-teen. Or maybe I dreamt the
whole thing.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Mike
Calling All Panel Fans
In my panel picture gallery I have the following:
8/e type A
8/e type B
8/e (galway)
8/e (maynard)
8/f (maynard)
8/f (galway)
8/m (maynard)
8/i (-"-)
8/l (-"-)
8/s (-"-)
11/20
11/35
11/40
11/45
Does anyone here still use Apple Works for day to day use? I find it
very useful it has a great word processor and a database / spreadsheet
I use it to write Creepypastas in my Motorcycle shop late at night.
On 12/10/2015 04:34 AM, Paul Birkel wrote:
> Is there a URL for your panel picture gallery, Rod?
>
> -
>
Yes that would be great to see!
What is your favorite CREEPYPASTA?
I read one tonight called exploration of room -B. . .
What are your fav'z? I am not a fan of the ones about games or the lame
ones like Jeff the killer, Slenderman, Five nights at Freddy's ecp for
the one called " The one in Crystal Cove".
I am a big fan of
Hi Mike
Er no but I ought to set something up
I could put the drawings up as well.
I did have a web site for the company
I ran but I shut it all down on retirement.
So lets see how rusty I am.
We will need
Static IP address
Domain Name registration
Dead end system
Linux Distro Server -
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 09:49:37AM -0500, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> THunderbird does what you tell it to. There is an option in Account
> Settings to change where the cursor goes in replies & such.
Even for those who haven't changed that setting, most if not all PC
keyboards have arrow keys on
> Of course, gmail could have broken their interface since then. If they make
it impossible to edit quotes for relevance, then they have no place in
civilized email, like any other MUA with that property.
Not broken, on web or android (I can't speak for iPhone). On web, click the
a little 3 dot
On 12/10/2015 01:37 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
OK - but those drives should also work on non-PATA-6 systems but
with reduced capacity - right?
As I recall (it's been at least a decade and a half), that's true--you
just don't get the full drive.
How are you handling 16-bit data port
What are you willing to pay??
> I am still looking for some help on this if anyone has ideas. It looks
> like
> the read/write/format board is bad. Anyone have a spare they can part with
> or are am I looking at a super effective door stop here?
>
> -Ali
>
>
>
>
On 12/10/2015 12:21 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
right - This is what I do in the code - I was writing "from memory".
Just going by what you write...BTW, what are you using as a reference?
Seagate still has a lot of interesting stuff on their ftp.
OK - good to know. I only tested ranges 260MB
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:09:45PM +, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> So I'll put it down here.
Thank you!!
> Hang on a mo if you do that you have to read all the messages backwards.
No, you don't. If the text from the message one is replying to is properly
trimmed, leaving just enough context for
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 12/10/15 8:47 AM, et...@757.org wrote:
>
> Self hosted mail systems for the win.
>>
>>
> Sadly, I'm seeing more and more organizations abandoning hosting their own
> mail
> servers (and mailing lists) because it has
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
> I'm tempted to reply using ALLIN1 email just to give you all an idea how
> really irritating some email clients can be!
So glad I never had to use it. We had VMS MAIL and we liked it !
> It was all the rage in the
I'm tempted to reply using ALLIN1 email just to give you all an idea how
really irritating some email clients can be!
It was all the rage in the 80's however don't you know.
Peace. Mark.
On 10 Dec 2015 19:39, "simon" wrote:
> sudo mv thread /dev/null
>
> On 09-12-15 22:58, Jay
My VAX4000-500 will no longer power up, with the PSU starting up and then
immediately shutting down. I suspect a possible short somewhere. I have
measured the resistance of the load presented to the PSU by connecting
probes to the backplane sockets used to power the machine. The odd one is
the 5V
Answering your other notes now - sorry for skipping them in my earlier
mail ;)
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/10/2015 12:21 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
right - This is what I do in the code - I was writing "from memory".
Just going by what you write...BTW, what are you using as
Chuck Guzis wrote:
ABRT set in the error register basically indicates that the drive
isn't ready or that there's something wrong with the command. You
may want to insert some debug code that displays exactly what's
being written to the drive registers.
Did that -
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Mike wrote:
>
> > The only thing I’ve done in ages that’s even remotely Classic Computer
> related is to start working on learning how to program my Atari 2600.
> >
> > Zane
> >
> >
> That sounds interesting How is that even done? I know
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Robert Jarratt
wrote:
> My VAX4000-500 will no longer power up, with the PSU starting up and then
> immediately shutting down. I suspect a possible short somewhere. I have
> measured the resistance of the load presented to the PSU by
>
> My VAX4000-500 will no longer power up, with the PSU starting up and then
> immediately shutting down. I suspect a possible short somewhere. I have
> measured the resistance of the load presented to the PSU by connecting
> probes to the backplane sockets used to power the machine. The odd one
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:13 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
> But yes, there are methods (even from the classic era) to load arbitrary
> code into the 2600 using a proprietary cartridge and a cassette tape
> machine. In essence, the special cart has a small bootstrap ROM that loads
On 12/10/2015 03:19 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
3 -> i already tried delays everywhere without success
I think you mentioned that you tried an old '486 machine and the drive was
OK there - how hard is it to compile your code for x86 and essentially try
testing your exact same code on the
I found the section "400 nsec delays" an interesting read, particularly
the bit about reading the status register five times.
http://wiki.osdev.org/ATA_PIO_Mode
--Chuck
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of devin
> davison
> Sent: 10 December 2015 02:35
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Purchased a Microvax 3800
>
> I got the power cord for the microvax 3800 in the mail today. I
I hear that Donald Trump top-posts...
also
Bill Gates
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Mike wrote:
And he is one of the smartest finatual men in the world
he is smart.
not smartest
what is a "finatual"?
He seems to be a bit competitive.
Back when he was first a millionaire, he did some good work.
We
Hi All
I am working on a new special project.
I can't reveal what it is yet.
But I can tell you the bell is finished in polished brass with
electromechanical striker
and the whistle has its own air supply.
Rod
If you understand this and you are not out to grass (retired) like me
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>>
>> on my phone it doesnt show the quoted text it hides it till i send or i
>> would just delete the stuff out...
>>
>> and my
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ***This e-mail transmission, including any
attachments, contains information that may be confidential or privileged.
The information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named
above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any
disclosure,
I'm not sure I understand what all this posting business is about.
The application (Thunderbird) puts the text where it wants.
In my case at the top. ie LIFO or latest first. It does the same with
the list of messages
Decmail did this from its inception as did the IBM, HP. etc mail systems.
I
>
> I'm not sure I understand what all this posting business is about.
> The application (Thunderbird) puts the text where it wants.
> In my case at the top. ie LIFO or latest first. It does the same with
> the list of messages
>
> Decmail did this from its inception as did the IBM, HP. etc mail
On 10 December 2015 at 09:53, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
> Linux Distro Server - Apache?
>
> Do you know I think there was a version for VMS
> As an old computer guy I like to have my data where I can see it
>
Compaq/HP CSWS is based on an old 1.x distro of Apache, I've
Thanks Adrian
I will check it out.
Rod
On 10/12/2015 10:05, Adrian Graham wrote:
On 10 December 2015 at 09:53, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
Linux Distro Server - Apache?
Do you know I think there was a version for VMS
As an old computer guy I like to have my data
At 07:03 PM 12/9/2015, Joseph Lang wrote:
>Anybody know how to bottom post on an iPhone?
Top posting isn't bad if the poster edits his top posts so that only a line or
two is quoted. If I see an entire message in a top post I junk that message
unread.
Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
> On 12/09/2015 10:42 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
>> [...untrimmed quote...]
> So just to be sure This is the correct way to post??
No. Bottom-posting with untrimmed quoting is only marginally better
than top-posting with untrimmed quoting.
The correct thing to do is to trim quotes for relevance and
On December 9, 2015 1:58:00 PM PST, Jay West wrote:
> Please make an effort not to top-post :|
>
> J
Hear! Hear!
For you Android users, K9-Mail makes bottom-posting easy.
--
David Griffith
d...@661.org
>
> This is a bit like the old toilet seat up/down argument...
>
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Jay West wrote:
>
> > Please make an effort not to top-post :|
> >
> > J
> >
> >
After reviewing the 61 posts from the list I received this morning, I can only
conclude that Johnny Billquist had the
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote:
> At 09:17 AM 12/10/2015, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
> >So its now called Editing your quotes.
>
> The crucial matter is editing the quoted message.
>
> Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
> Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 /
I just recently had a RXV21 board that I inserted into the backplane and
then completely hung a few bits on the bus. It was a DC005 bus transceiver
chip that had failed.
First it seemed impossible to find such a chip, but then I recognized that
Signetics had put their own code own them as well,
Bad news is Gmail never deletes your emails, ever. They remove them from
your view but keep it on their servers for profiling you.
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Liam Proven wrote:
*I* never delete my emails. I have a trail back to 1994. So?
useful
Also, [[Citation needed]] for paranoid ravings.
I'd be happy to host the site for you - gratis - on the classiccmp server.
J
On 12/10/2015 04:30 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote:
My VAX4000-500 will no longer power up, with the PSU starting up and then
immediately shutting down. I suspect a possible short somewhere. I have
measured the resistance of the load presented to the PSU by connecting
probes to the backplane sockets
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Robert Jarratt wrote:
> My VAX4000-500 will no longer power up, with the PSU starting up and then
> immediately shutting down. I suspect a possible short somewhere. I have
> measured the resistance of the load presented to the PSU by connecting
> probes to the backplane
Er nope it just refers to android
R
On 10/12/2015 12:28, Peter Coghlan wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what all this posting business is about.
The application (Thunderbird) puts the text where it wants.
In my case at the top. ie LIFO or latest first. It does the same with
the list of
At 07:04 AM 12/10/2015, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>I can't understand what the fuss is about.
What the fuss is mainly about is people who are too lazy to edit their quotes.
Whether they top post or bottom post, if they properly edit their quotes the
results should be acceptable to readers.
Dale H.
Hi,
My Micro's power supply blew and I wanted to be in a fullsize cab anyway.
Can I bolt my Micro/PDP11 Q22 backplane into an 11/03 chassis easily?
Anyone know about feasibility / gotchas before I start experimenting?
thx
jake
Hey Mike,
Thanks, but I don't know if I need the codes, they are probably posted
online? In any case, I found the game in my archive, so I attached it for
you..
It's in a zip file, containing one or two .D64 disk images. It's probably
cracked, so you shouldn't need any kind of passwords, I'd
It's simple to convert the h9270 q18 (11/03) to q22. Just wire the additional
address lines. It took me about an hour to do mine.
Don't put an 11/03 in it after conversion. The added lines are not addresses on
the 03 CPU.
Joe
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Jacob Ritorto
On 10/12/2015 13:27, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Er nope it just refers to android
R
He didn't include a signature in that message. Try looking at an earlier one.
Here's another explaination.
When someone receives this message, where are they supposed to start reading?
They have to rummage
>
> Er nope it just refers to android
>
> R
He didn't include a signature in that message. Try looking at an earlier one.
Here's another explaination.
When someone receives this message, where are they supposed to start reading?
They have to rummage through to the middle to find where it
> From: Pontus Pihlgren
> Once, I was told by a friend that he had dumpstered not one but two
> PDP-12s!!
> It still gives me the chills.
I can top that. Someone told me they were going to start a thread about
top-posting on a list supposedly about vintage computers. I'm still
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/10/2015 01:37 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
OK - but those drives should also work on non-PATA-6 systems but
with reduced capacity - right?
As I recall (it's been at least a decade and a half), that's
true--you just don't get the full drive.
More
Robert Jarratt wrote:
> My VAX4000-500 will no longer power up, with the PSU starting up and then
> immediately shutting down. I suspect a possible short somewhere. I have
> measured the resistance of the load presented to the PSU by connecting
> probes to the backplane sockets used to power the
So just to be sure This is the correct way to post?? from the bottom. in
my online gmail i dont get all the rest just the reply I will have to
look at the settings i guess.
Bad news is Gmail never deletes your emails, ever. They remove them from
your view but keep it on their servers for
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 4:13 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Mike wrote:
>
>>
>>> The only thing I’ve done in ages that’s even remotely Classic Computer
>> related is to start working on learning how to program my
> Rob,
> Yeah, I'd actually really like to save this Micro 11's power supply but
> I'm so
> bad at electronics that I feel hopeless trying.
I was the same (and still am), but I have slowly learned more and more, and
acquired a few more pieces of test equipment.
> It'd be really good,
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Zane Healy wrote:
I’ve done embarrassingly little so far. The equivalent of “Hello,
World”.
Isn't that the heart of it?
Once you've got that, then you just need to add input, output, arithmetic,
maybe some graphics primitives, etc. for any program.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote:
>
> Having spent many hours fixing my own H7864, and finally succeeding, I am
> interested to know what kind of failure you had. Filter caps often go on
> these, are easily replaceable and don't stop it working.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Joseph Lang
wrote:
> It's simple to convert the h9270 q18 (11/03) to q22. Just wire the
> additional address lines. It took me about an hour to do mine.
> Don't put an 11/03 in it after conversion. The added lines are not
> addresses on
On 12/10/2015 07:04 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what all this posting business is about.
The application (Thunderbird) puts the text where it wants.
In my case at the top. ie LIFO or latest first. It does the same with
the list of messages
Decmail did this from its
On 12/10/2015 05:39 AM, Joseph Lang wrote:
On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
on my phone it doesnt show the quoted text it hides it till i send or i
would just delete the
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 07:03:04PM -0500, Joseph Lang wrote:
>>
>> Anybody know how to bottom post on an iPhone? I've never been able to
>> figure it out.
>
> I've never figured it out either. My iPhone is great
On 10/12/2015 14:17, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 10/12/2015 13:29, Dale H. Cook wrote:
At 07:04 AM 12/10/2015, Rod Smallwood wrote:
I can't understand what the fuss is about.
What the fuss is mainly about is people who are too lazy to edit
their quotes. Whether they top post or bottom post,
I'm not familiar with a XorOut? I suspect it is to correct for
a different seed values at the tail end.
Does the program let you run it backwards?
As a 16 bit polynomial, it is practical to run it forward 2^16 bit times
to get it back to the seed value.
Dwight
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:54 AM, wrote:
> So just to be sure This is the correct way to post?? from the bottom. in
>> my online gmail i dont get all the rest just the reply I will have to
>> look at the settings i guess.
>>
>
> Bad news is Gmail never deletes your emails, ever.
On 10 December 2015 at 16:54, wrote:
> Bad news is Gmail never deletes your emails, ever. They remove them from
> your view but keep it on their servers for profiling you.
*I* never delete my emails. I have a trail back to 1994. So?
Also, [[Citation needed]] for paranoid
At 09:17 AM 12/10/2015, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>So its now called Editing your quotes.
The crucial matter is editing the quoted message.
Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640
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