Re: Swap clarification (Was: bill was my first "real" computer comoany customer"

2018-11-13 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
On 11/13/18 2:37 PM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: Fred Cisin wrote: Opened to public at 10:00 AM, by which time, the vendors had been buying each others stuff for quite a while. "It's worth getting a vendor table, just for the early admission!" That's true for just about any

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
There's a blue-and-black grid, and an all-black grid, at least with Sun mice. Mice that work on one won't work on the other. At least with the blue-and-black grid, spacing didn't seem to matter -- I've got three sizes of spacing, all three work with the mice that support it. Not sure if it

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/13/2018 10:28 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 17:12, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Well, how DID they make panels? Letraset? :-) Yes, thanks, that was another brand of this technology! Jon

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
here's one https://www.ebay.com/itm/192719727693 do you know if it needs a original coarse or fine grid pad? I'm surprised you don't have any Sun optical mice kicking around.

Remembering Bill Godbout

2018-11-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
When I upgraded my first TRS80 from 4K to 16K, it was with 4116s from Godbout. The next time that I went in there, he had packaged up a whole bunch of 4116s into groups of 8 with a piece of paper giving directions for TRS80 installation.

Re: Swap clarification (Was: bill was my first "real" computer comoany customer"

2018-11-13 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Ok   that  i   what  I  remember  too   The  first one  was  great   I  went  later  one  time   years  later and  yea  the  feel had  changed...  the  2ed  had  no stacks  of  New  varian 620  front panels and chassis!    surplus  and  duck...   wonder if  he  still has  the  59  el camino? 

Bill Godbout

2018-11-13 Thread John Klos via cctalk
http://vcfed.org/wp/2018/11/13/r-i-p-bill-godbout-79/ :(

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Ed C. via cctalk
I have the combo unit including solder. I do not have any other experience with any high-end ware but I can say that this unit does all I need and does it well. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:17 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 11/13/18 7:38 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
All this yammering about fancy desoldering gizmos harkens back memories of a "desoldering station" consisting of a hot soldering iron ... made of a hefty amount of copper (the kind you put in a pit of fire to heat up!) and a long, skinny screwdriver, or two, used to _very_ gently pry up ICs from

Re: Swap clarification (Was: bill was my first "real" computer comoany customer"

2018-11-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
"Computer Swap America" run by John Craig. Santa Clara County Fairgrounds 344 Tully Roadnice El Camino(s?) Opened to public at 10:00 AM, by which time, the vendors had been buying each others stuff for quite a while. "It's worth getting a vendor table, just for the early admission!" On

Re: Swap clarification (Was: bill was my first "real" computer comoany customer"

2018-11-13 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
YES!  John  Craig! Thank  you   for the  brain  refresh!   how many shows a  year  does  he  do? Ed#   In a message dated 11/13/2018 3:15:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ci...@xenosoft.com writes:   > computer fair in as I remember San Jose California … I believe it was > at the fairgrounds

Re: Got a Rainbow 100 and ...

2018-11-13 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 11/10/18 10:47 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Today I picked up a Rainbow 100. The seller bought it new for a specific need and he says that it had been sitting in his barn since '84. It looks like it was a dry barn because things look pretty clean for the most part aside from a

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 10:11 AM 13/11/2018 -0600, you wrote: >On 11/12/2018 08:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> >> IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible >> to find it. >> >> But, it is extremely likely that they did NOT use a >> commercial font, and either had their graphics art people

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 10:32 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 07:12:49PM +0100, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctech > wrote: > > On 11/10/18, 6:49 PM, "Rico Pajarola" wrote: > > > > > > > > I have tried to print my own mousepad, but the mouse only

RE: Swap clarification (Was: bill was my first "real" computer comoany customer"

2018-11-13 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Fred Cisin wrote: > Opened to public at 10:00 AM, by which time, the vendors had been buying > each others stuff for quite a while. "It's worth getting a vendor table, > just for the early admission!" That's true for just about any hamfest/swap meet, isn't it? Buy stuff right out of

Swap clarification (Was: bill was my first "real" computer comoany customer"

2018-11-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
computer fair in as I remember San Jose California … I believe it was at the fairgrounds … (Fair was run by a pleasant guy (was his name Craig or? Can someone clarify?) "Computer Swap America" run by John Craig. Santa Clara County Fairgrounds 344 Tully Road nice El Camino(s?) Opened to

Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuilding DC100A cartridges?)

2018-11-13 Thread allison via cctalk
On 11/13/2018 03:46 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 4:08 AM Eric Smith wrote: >>> It is remotely possible that there's an undocumented "format" command >>> in the protocol. However, I've heard multiple people claim that >>> special firmware was required. >> I spent

bill was my first "real" computer comoany customer"

2018-11-13 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
A BILL GODBOUT TALE  C-  Ed Sharpe  Archivist  for SMECC BEWARE THIS NARTIVE WANDERS>… A very old friend Bill Godbout of the s100 computer days and my first real commercial buyer of any large quantity of surplus electronics material from me when I went into the early part of my computer store

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-13 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I believe that a mini version of the VAX 9000 consisting of the main CPU rack can be set up for display, plus photos / posters of a full setup in the background. Add a terminal or two and we can demo the 9000 without breaking the bank. I did not check but even a few drives would suffice to demo

Re: Any News from the Nova @ 50 Event?

2018-11-13 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Any chance someone could write it up? Pending approval and editing, I will release some video footage I took on my Youtube channel, Uniservo. No people, no discussion, just a walkaround of the hardware exhibits. There was real 4K video being shot (terabytes of it!) by professionals, but I do

Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuilding DC100A cartridges?)

2018-11-13 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
Mark J. Blair (NF6X) has a git repo with various TU58 firmware disassemblies here: https://gitlab.com/NF6X_Retrocomputing/tu58firmware

Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuilding DC100A cartridges?)

2018-11-13 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:47 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 4:08 AM Eric Smith wrote: > > I spent some time reverse-engineering the firmware. There is only one > > undocumented opcode, decimal 10, and I haven't yet figured out what it > >

Re: Rugged Nova/1601

2018-11-13 Thread Christian Kennedy via cctalk
On 11/6/18 1:22 AM, erik--- via cctech wrote: > Yes, lot of metal inside those Rolms. Although all Aluminium, they > are veeery heavy and I always wondered how many of them also have > been used in airborne applications, where weight is an issue ;-) One of the more interesting problems we

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 07:12:49PM +0100, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctech wrote: > On 11/10/18, 6:49 PM, "Rico Pajarola" wrote: > > > > I have tried to print my own mousepad, but the mouse only works in > the y direction on it. > > there were 2 versions of that mousepad, and the symptom of

Any News from the Nova @ 50 Event?

2018-11-13 Thread Stephen Merrony via cctalk
I saw a brief positive post on Facebook, but nothing else. Any chance someone could write it up? Also, were there any announcements re. licensing etc? Steve --- Stephen Merrony

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Dec may have used a customized font. You could recreate it fairly easily using a font utility like Fontographer (my favorite... Really easy to use) or Font lab. They allow you to take a font that you like and modify the different glyphs to your taste. Wayne > On Nov 12, 2018, at 12:04 PM,

Full story about Bill Godbout

2018-11-13 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
http://vcfed.org/wp/2018/11/13/r-i-p-bill-godbout-79/ Evan Koblentz, director Vintage Computer Federation a 501(c)3 educational non-profit e...@vcfed.org (646) 546- www.vcfed.org facebook.com/vcfederation twitter.com/vcfederation

Update re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-13 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
I communicated with the person who posted on alt.folklore.computers. The person is a close relative of Bill's; thus, the information about his tragic passing is true/confirmed. The person added, "He was living in Oreville, California and perished in his home on Thursday, Nov. 8. ... Bill was

Re: Update re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-13 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Here is a GoFundMe started by Bill's son: https://www.gofundme.com/godbouttuckcampfirerelieffund

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
Carmiel you lucky dog! How come you get TWO Titan's, all I want is ONE. I had one for about a year after it came out. I convinced their sales to park it in my office next to NASA JSC while we both were entertaining customers. I did some visualization work using Dore' and AVS. recently, I

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
On 11/10/18, 6:49 PM, "Rico Pajarola" wrote: I have tried to print my own mousepad, but the mouse only works in the y direction on it. there were 2 versions of that mousepad, and the symptom of using the wrong one was that the mouse would only move in one direction. There was another

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-13 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
Amazing rescue! Hope nothing breaks. On 11/8/18, 3:55 AM, "cctalk on behalf of Evan Koblentz via cctalk" wrote: The VCF museum took delivery of a VAX 9440 today. It arrived in two 28-foot trailers. Here's our forklift driver beginning to unload the first truck:

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-13 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
That is a behemoth!! Did you ger that huge powerforming thingy that goes with it? I'm told that we got * everything *. Are you crazy enough to atempt a power-up? Yes.

Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
Hello everyone, A week ago, I took possession of a second Ardent Titan graphics supercomputer, and unlike the other Titan, this one is almost complete. There is one tiny bit missing, and that is a mouse pad. The mouse used with this systems is a Mouse Systems M4 variant (M4Q), and it does

New to System/36

2018-11-13 Thread alan--- via cctalk
Just picked up an IBM System/36 5362 tonight. It is in pretty good physical condition with just a few minor scratches - other than needing a thorough cleaning. It has 2 60 MB hard disks in the unit. Not sure of the RAM capacity. Missing the the mode hard key. A few of us tried to get it

Re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-13 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
"drrt1...@gmail.com" posted on AFC this morning that Bill died in the Camp fire in Northern California on Thursday. Has anyone else heard about this? Google has no mention.  Yet. How can we confirm? I emailed (on behalf of VCF) the person who posted it there but haven't yet heard back.

UniBone - access DEC PDP-11 UNIBUS under Linux

2018-11-13 Thread Jörg Hoppe via cctalk
Guys, I'm about to finish another project: "UniBone" - a Linux-to-UNIBUS bridge, based on the BeagleBone Black. It is supposed to be a development platform for device emulation. At the moment it can emulate memory, emulate an RL11 controller with 4 RL drives attached, and act as UNIBUS

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-13 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
The question is probably, could they afford the power bill? We have a bunch of Crays and CDCs at the Computer History Museum, and if they were operational, we'd probably have to take up a special very-large-hat-passing collection http://vcfed.org/wp/contribute/ :)

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-13 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Amazing rescue! Hope nothing breaks. Right now I'm just happy no * people * broke when it was delivered! Unloading it from two 28-foot trailers required five people, two pallet jacks, and a forklift.

Re: New to System/36

2018-11-13 Thread Yvan Janssens via cctalk
You will need the keyboard. Those terminals usually don't come up without it. Good news tho if the keyboard has been nicked, the protocol is compatible-ish with PS/2. I have successfully used $generic_ps2_keyboard with the right plug for it. Make sure to not hit the Windows key (or any other 'new'

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
Congrats on that amazing find. On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:24 PM Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > > A week ago, I took possession of a second Ardent Titan graphics > supercomputer, and unlike the other Titan, this one is almost complete. >

Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad

2018-11-13 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 7:12 PM Camiel Vanderhoeven < camiel.vanderhoe...@vmssoftware.com> wrote: > On 11/10/18, 6:49 PM, "Rico Pajarola" wrote: > > > > I have tried to print my own mousepad, but the mouse only works in the y > direction on it. > > there were 2 versions of that mousepad, and the

Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuilding DC100A cartridges?)

2018-11-13 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 4:08 AM Eric Smith wrote: > > It is remotely possible that there's an undocumented "format" command > > in the protocol. However, I've heard multiple people claim that > > special firmware was required. > > I spent some time reverse-engineering the firmware. There is

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/13/18 7:38 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > Instead, I use two pencil-type irons, one in each hand, working under > a stereo microscope. The tips are much better, and manipulating each > tip independently provides great control of what's going on. Only > drawback is that if you want to

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 13, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 11/13/18 8:58 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > >> I am not aware of one, but I can hunt around. I'm also waiting on a >> friend who might have an idea about the DX11 panel, which is a different >> font from this

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-13 10:21 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Toby Thain > > > To get closer I'd need better images of the panels. > > Hi, I borrowed a DEC inlay from someone (a KA10 CPU bay) and scanned a chunk > of it (as much as I could fit into my A4 scanner :-) at 200 dpi: > >

Re: DEC Alpha Bug Check Crash

2018-11-13 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
On 11/12/2018 1:30 PM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 12:22 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 11/11/2018 11:36 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: This is most likely correct. I re-installed the OS on a different SD card/SCSI2SD device and got a successful

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/13/18 8:58 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > I am not aware of one, but I can hunt around. I'm also waiting on a > friend who might have an idea about the DX11 panel, which is a different > font from this one. Wasn't the DX11 a Systems Concepts product?

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-13 10:21 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Toby Thain > > > To get closer I'd need better images of the panels. > > Hi, I borrowed a DEC inlay from someone (a KA10 CPU bay) and scanned a chunk > of it (as much as I could fit into my A4 scanner :-) at 200 dpi: > >

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-13 11:11 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 11/12/2018 08:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> >> IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. >> >> But, it is extremely likely that they did NOT use a commercial font, >> and either had their graphics art

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 17:12, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Well, how DID they make panels? Letraset? :-) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/12/2018 08:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. But, it is extremely likely that they did NOT use a commercial font, and either had their graphics art people draw the characters as needed, or used reference

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-13 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
What a majestic system! When I saw the teaser picture of the backs of racks on Twitter, I was assuming something in the 11/78x series. I don't know anything about the 9440 yet, so it'll be fun to read up on that. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
On the topic of desoldering tweezers: I don't like them. I've done tons of rework of components down to 0201 size. I consider 0201 to be difficult, but I found that once I could work on 0201 components at all, 0402 suddenly seemed easy to work with! Anyway, the tweezers I've used had poor tip

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Toby Thain > To get closer I'd need better images of the panels. Hi, I borrowed a DEC inlay from someone (a KA10 CPU bay) and scanned a chunk of it (as much as I could fit into my A4 scanner :-) at 200 dpi: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/jpg/KACPUPanel.jpg I have a TC08

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-13 8:38 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:08 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On 2018-11-12 9:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> [Top posted to avoid trimming information that might be useful to many] >>> >>> IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Nov 13, 2018, at 12:11 AM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> In Noel's case the originals are probably not at

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On Nov 13, 2018, at 12:11 AM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> ... >> In Noel's case the originals are probably not at hand, so there is obviously >> no choice but to >> recreate them. I can't help with

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 13, 2018, at 12:11 AM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > In Noel's case the originals are probably not at hand, so there is obviously > no choice but to > recreate them. I can't help with the font but it makes me think of the curved > font on the front > of the PDP-11

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:08 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2018-11-12 9:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> [Top posted to avoid trimming information that might be useful to many] >> >> IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. >> > > Another plan

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-12 9:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > [Top posted to avoid trimming information that might be useful to many] > > IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. > Another plan of attack could be to find the corporate standards manuals that applied during

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-13 12:11 AM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: > Guy said >> Hmm, I posted to the list about this 3 hours ago, and it hasn't appeared yet. >> Is there an extra vetting process for posts that include links to web sites? >> I included various links to font searching sites, cleaned-up