Re: ODE 2.1.1 documentation

2021-03-21 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
It looks like I have the ODE source (with doc sources) for 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 2.3.4 is from 1997, 2.3.6 from 1998. Is that old enough for you? IANAL, but the copyright doc looks good Copyright (c), 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998 The Open Group Research Institute ("TOG RI"),

RE: VAXstation 2000 network & hardware guides (English & German)

2021-03-21 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: > These arrived this morning and they are scanned and OCR'd here:- > > https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag4BJfE5B3onlY9td7hHhHPnUKV2bA?e=hDKwES > > I think I can scan at lower resolution and/or grey scale as these are a > bit on the huge side

Re: ODE 2.1.1 documentation

2021-03-21 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 2:16 PM Ben Huntsman via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hello! >Does anyone have any old documentation for ODE 2.1.1, or relatively > close versions? I know "newer" versions have been released and have > documentation available, but there are some changes in

Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 18:07 Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: > The instruction that's waiting on the done bit to be set is overwritten > with a NOP while the bootstrap is being read. This is common for > bootstraps: minimal user-entered code that gets overwritten by the boot > when it's being

Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 3/21/2021 10:05 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 09:35 Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: You have to read the bootstrap code in the TC0x driver to understand this. I agree with your assessments, but I'm referring to the first stage bootloader: either your toggle-in or

Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 21, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > >> On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Rick Murphy via cctalk >> wrote: >> ... >> Trying again - my reply got chopped off for some reason. >> >> You have to read the bootstrap code in the TC0x driver to understand this. >> >> What happens

Re: DECtape ancestry (Kyle Owen)

2021-03-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Michael Thompson wrote: > Kyle Owen wrote: >> What systems took advantage of the bidirectional nature? > > ADSS on the PDP-9 does an interleave of 6 when reading/writing to the > DECtape. If it runs off the end it reverses direction and keeps going. MIT's MACDMP (and by extension, ITS) does this

Re: DECtape ancestry (Kyle Owen)

2021-03-21 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
> > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 16:21:44 -0400 > From: Kyle Owen > Subject: Re: DECtape ancestry > > What systems took advantage of the bidirectional nature? > > Kyle > ADSS on the PDP-9 does an interleave of 6 when reading/writing to the DECtape. If it runs off the end it reverses direction and

Re: VCF Swap Meet in Wall, NJ

2021-03-21 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Jeffery, Yep! All of the states have this provision. It isn't being told to the general public but it is there. GOD Bless and Thanks, rich! On 3/21/2021 1:29 PM, Jeffrey Brace via cctalk wrote: Just responding to Richard: The current guidelines for New Jersey allow exceptions to mask

Re: VCF Swap Meet in Wall, NJ

2021-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Brace via cctalk
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Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Rick Murphy via cctalk > wrote: > ... > Trying again - my reply got chopped off for some reason. > > You have to read the bootstrap code in the TC0x driver to understand this. > > What happens is that the code watches the buffer pointer (7755) and when it >

Re: VCF Swap Meet in Wall, NJ

2021-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Brace via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:54 PM Tony Aiuto wrote: > I don't think giant squids would be safe in the parking lot. Without a lot > of water, they would dry out. We could continuously hose them down, but > that might damage vintage hardware. Nothing is simple. > Although we do occasionally get

Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 09:35 Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: > > You have to read the bootstrap code in the TC0x driver to understand this. > I agree with your assessments, but I'm referring to the first stage bootloader: either your toggle-in or MI8E-based ROM bootstrap. In the case of that, the

Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
thanks, came through to ENDB here! great explanation! bb On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 9:35 AM Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: > > On 3/20/2021 8:51 PM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 7:19 PM Kyle Owen wrote: > > > >> However, it appears as though word count will be hit by the

Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 3/20/2021 8:51 PM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 7:19 PM Kyle Owen wrote: However, it appears as though word count will be hit by the loading of the first block. In fact, my instrumented version of SimH says it's overwritten with a zero. If that's the case, it would

Re: TC08 DECtape bootloader question

2021-03-21 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 3/20/2021 8:51 PM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 7:19 PM Kyle Owen wrote: However, it appears as though word count will be hit by the loading of the first block. In fact, my instrumented version of SimH says it's overwritten with a zero. If that's the case, it would