[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 24/12/2022 17:02, Chris via cctalk wrote: Don"t know what an Elan is. I do seem to recall suddenly an Indy with no graphics output, intended to be used as a headless server. That was a Challenge. the Indigo Elan is an Indigo with a particular higher-end graphics card. I still have an

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
I thought the end of SGI hinged on two things: banking on the Itanium and giving up on MIPS, and their Graphics experts went off to found a company called Nvidia... the rest was inevitable. Founder of SGI wrote a book and in it he said he wanted to get into the PC Graphics card market and

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
Don"t know what an Elan is. I do seem to recall suddenly an Indy with no graphics output, intended to be used as a headless server. The SGI Challenge S is an Indy sized machine that is meant as a server. They get rid of the graphics and replace it with a board that adds a 2nd network

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
It was the top of the line SGI Indigo/Iris series. 4 GE7 Geometry engines (50mflops each), Z buffer, Raster manager, and 24 bit video. A worthy system without a doubt. The big thing missing was texture memory, it didn't have it. Still I think it could do 4 light sources on the cars and neat

[cctalk] Re: Searching for a few good TI Silent 700 parts

2022-12-24 Thread Charles via cctalk
In fact it is a 745 :) If the printhead has all its pixels working, I'd like to buy it. No keyboard at all, or just nonfunctional? Those particular keyswitches seem to be unobtainium nowadays... thanks Charles On 12/24/22 12:00, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri,

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Andrew Diller via cctalk
Elan is a class of graphics chips in a given (early) SGI. It's the top level of the Express set. http://archive.irixnet.org/sgistuff/hardware/graphics/express.html I thought the end of SGI hinged on two things: banking on the

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Chris via cctalk
Don"t know what an Elan is. I do seem to recall suddenly an Indy with no graphics output, intended to be used as a headless server. On Saturday, December 24, 2022, 10:21:36 AM EST, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: I still use my Indigo Elan from time to time. Oddly enough it was I who

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
No, but I found that even the incredible graphics cards they built couldn't keep up with the pace of generic processors just increasing in speed at an exponential rate. This also took out chips like the Elsa Gloria cards, exceptionally fast, but eclipsed by Pentium processors pretty quickly.

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
You're single-handedly responsible for the downfall of SGI? Do tell. Sellam On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 7:21 AM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > I still use my Indigo Elan from time to time. Oddly enough it was I who > discovered the interesting issue that ultimately sank SGI's graphics > market when

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I still use my Indigo Elan from time to time. Oddly enough it was I who discovered the interesting issue that ultimately sank SGI's graphics market when evaluating Hollidance on the Elan vs a baseline Indy. Nice little system and runs SimCity. C On 12/23/2022 9:57 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote:

[cctalk] Re: SGI vs. Mac

2022-12-24 Thread Dr. Erik Baigar via cctalk
Hi There! An Indy for instance, is it much faster then a similarly clocked PowerMac? What about an Indigo 2 IMPACT 1. Does that blow most PMs away? Hmm, never used MACs of that generation. Graphics performance of the SGIs was awesome for its day. Still using an Octane (2*R12k) from