[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/9/23 22:31, Fred Cisin wrote: > > A little quick speculation, but not determinable without the system, . > . . > The Teac FD55F was a 96tpi "720K" drive at 300 RPM > The Teac FD55G was a "1.2M" drive. 360RPM > The FD55GF was both, and there were several variants, with different > jumpers,

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2023-01-10 07:31, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On 1/9/23 21:16, nico de jong via cctalk wrote: Hello Chuck Speaking of old floppies, when I was busy converting floppies (I've now been retired for 10 years) I frequently had problems reading some 5.25" disks, but only on specific drives.

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On 1/9/23 21:16, nico de jong via cctalk wrote: Hello Chuck Speaking of old floppies, when I was busy converting floppies (I've now been retired for 10 years) I frequently had problems reading some 5.25" disks, but only on specific drives. Those disks came from IBM systems, probably S/3. I

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2023-01-10 07:14, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 1/9/23 21:16, nico de jong via cctalk wrote: Hello Chuck Speaking of old floppies, when I was busy converting floppies (I've now been retired for 10 years) I frequently had problems reading some 5.25" disks, but only on specific drives.

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/9/23 21:16, nico de jong via cctalk wrote: > Hello Chuck > > Speaking of old floppies, when I was busy converting floppies (I've > now been retired for 10 years) I frequently had problems reading some > 5.25" disks, but only on specific drives. Those disks came from IBM > systems, probably

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
Hello Chuck Speaking of old floppies, when I was busy converting floppies (I've now been retired for 10 years) I frequently had problems reading some 5.25" disks, but only on specific drives. Those disks came from IBM systems, probably S/3. I cannot be sure that the solution holds, but it

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/9/23 11:56, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > At this point in time, this is advisable for almost any magnetic media > any of us would be working with. Though I’ll admit I have looked at a > couple of the disks before imaging them, I’m trying to remember to > image first, then read the image.

[cctalk] Re: Restoring unknown format backup tapes

2023-01-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/9/23 12:16, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > Then I'd image the tape with Tapeimgr and see if I could figure out > > what software was used. I've reverse-engineered a few, Retrospect and > > one other, I think I uploaded it all to my Github. > > Phil's overall process is good, but you

[cctalk] Re: Restoring unknown format backup tapes

2023-01-09 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> Then I'd image the tape with Tapeimgr and see if I could figure out > what software was used. I've reverse-engineered a few, Retrospect and > one other, I think I uploaded it all to my Github. Phil's overall process is good, but you shouldn't use `dd` to image tapes. It discards tape block

[cctalk] Re: Restoring unknown format backup tapes

2023-01-09 Thread Phil Pemberton via cctalk
On 30/12/2022 20:17, John Herron via cctalk wrote: This may be a larger conversation than I intend but how would you all generally start if you ha backup tapes that you wanted to try and read/restore? Supposedly they're Amiga qic tapes. I'm a little worried about the structural integrity of the

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 5:36 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote: > > Disks give errors, duh. Whatever you use to image a disk, use it as a first > attempt, as that may be the ONLY chance to save the contents. People put a > disk in the drive, do a directory scan, screw around some more. And then the >

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Jan 9, 2023, at 8:02 AM, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote: > > On 1/8/23 23:21, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: >> On 1/8/23 8:41 PM, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote: >>> I avoid Disk Utility like the plague. >> Doc, will you please elaborate on why you avoid the Disk Utility (.app)? > > Short

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Jan 9, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usbmass-ufi10.pdf > > USB Mass Storage Class – UFI Command Specification Revision 1.0 > 4.10.2 Formattable Capacity Descriptors > The UFI device supports the following capacity descriptors. >

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 7:41 PM, Doc Shipley via cctalk > wrote: > > On 1/8/23 19:29, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> When reading old floppies, how often is it advisable to clean the drive? I >> managed the first 3.5” floppies no problem, I’m using a USB Floppy Drive >> hooked up to my Mac

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 12:19 PM Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023, 10:23 AM Warner Losh via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2023, 6:29 PM Zane Healy via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > wrote: > > > > Also, a normal USB Floppy drive can only

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023, 10:23 AM Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Jan 8, 2023, 6:29 PM Zane Healy via cctalk > wrote: > > Also, a normal USB Floppy drive can only handle 1.44MB formatted floppies. > 720k might work (but there is nothing in the standards to describe this) > and oddball

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/9/23 10:23, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > > Also, a normal USB Floppy drive can only handle 1.44MB formatted floppies. > 720k might work (but there is nothing in the standards to describe this) > and oddball formats are right out. > I've found that most 3.5" USB floppy drives also support

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 8, 2023, 6:29 PM Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > When reading old floppies, how often is it advisable to clean the drive? > I managed the first 3.5” floppies no problem, I’m using a USB Floppy Drive > hooked up to my Mac Laptop, I was able to image them using “Disk Utility”. > The

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Doc Shipley via cctalk
On 1/8/23 23:21, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 1/8/23 8:41 PM, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote: I avoid Disk Utility like the plague. Doc, will you please elaborate on why you avoid the Disk Utility (.app)? Short version is that the GUI Disk Utility hides too much of what it's doing

[cctalk] Re: Diablo series 30 or Dec RK03

2023-01-09 Thread dwight via cctalk
If all you want is a mass storage, you can do what I did for my NC4000 computer. I took a controller board from an XT and a ST506 drive( only 5 Megs but how am I going to create that much myself. It is better than a floppy controller since it buffers a sector. The computer can run as slow or

[cctalk] Re: Reading Old Floppies

2023-01-09 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 9, 2023, at 2:48 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 1/8/23 22:28, Chris via cctalk wrote: >> If alcohol isn't a good idea, white vinegar or dilute ammonia could also >> work. Ammonia is the world's best peneyrant as far as I'm concerned. But to >> get into deep crevaces

[cctalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: what is on topic?

2023-01-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 03:45, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > I have a memory of installing Windows 95 on a monochrome 386SX laptop > w/4MB of RAM in August, 1995 at McMurdo because that's the equipment > we had on hand when Win95 arrived on the continent. It was > unpleasantly slow but it did