[cctalk] Re: Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
If we're being pedantic ;-) Since you asked for it, the PC joystick connector was a DA-15; the PC VGA connector was a DE-15. On Tue, 27 Jun 2023, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: Wasn't PC VGA considered a /High/ /Density/ DE-15? It is sometimes caalled that. A DB-9 was a 25 pin

[cctalk] Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Anyone in MD got an AUI cable (few feet long) I can steal so I don't have to remove the bolts from the Pro/380's Ethernet socket or the pins on my 10bt ethernet MAU? Friendly note: If you try to boot a Pro/380 running POS 3.2 with Decnet installed and don't have the loopback plug the system

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
More interesting is that All-In-One for the VAX comes on RX02 and RL02 disks. I wasn't aware that the VAX or VMS even supported RX or RL disks. Sure. The 8600 and 11/730 used an RL02 as the boot/startup media. RX02 is a bit odd, but I could see that being supported on a Unibus adapter

[cctalk] Re: Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
Tony's email makes me ask more questions than I have (smart alack) answers to. Maybe ~> hopefully I can ~> will learn something. On 6/27/23 10:26 PM, Tony Duell wrote: For a few inches, which would be enough here I think, I've used an IDC DA15 plug and socket crimped onto the normal ribbon

[cctalk] Re: Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
If we're being pedantic ;-) On 6/27/23 9:35 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Since you asked for it, the PC joystick connector was a DA-15; the PC VGA connector was a DE-15. Wasn't PC VGA considered a /High/ /Density/ DE-15? A DB-9 was a 25 pin connector (often serial), and often with pins 1-8 and

[cctalk] Re: Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:17 AM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > Anyone in MD got an AUI cable (few feet long) I can steal so I don't > have to remove the bolts from the Pro/380's Ethernet socket or the pins > on my 10bt ethernet MAU? For a few inches, which would be enough here I think, I've

[cctalk] Re: Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 27 Jun 2023, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: Anyone in MD got an AUI cable (few feet long) I can steal so I don't have to remove the bolts from the Pro/380's Ethernet socket or the pins on my 10bt ethernet MAU? I just cheat and use a straight through DB-15 (waiting for someone to

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Yes, the console floppy on an 11/780 was an RX02, and VMS supported "virtualizing" it through the LSI-11 console computer so you could mount it just like any other device. I thought it was an RX01 on an 11/03? It's an RX02? CZ Jon

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
asOn Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 20:11, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I wasn't aware that the VAX or VMS even supported RX or RL disks. > > One of my father's fondest memories as a sysadmin for the radio astronomy folks at Bell Labs was replacing the VAX, I believe an

[cctalk] Re: Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
These are my go-to for short ones: https://www.ebay.com/itm/233295839501 Not affiliated with seller, just a satisfied customer. Thanks, Jonathan --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, June 27th, 2023 at 21:16, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > > Anyone in MD got an AUI cable (few

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 6/27/23 19:11, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: More interesting is that All-In-One for the VAX comes on RX02 and RL02 disks. I wasn't aware that the VAX or VMS even supported RX or RL disks. Yes, the console floppy on an 11/780 was an RX02, and VMS supported "virtualizing" it

[cctalk] Re: Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> Anyone in MD got an AUI cable (few feet long) I can steal so I don't have to > remove the bolts from the Pro/380's Ethernet socket or the pins on my 10bt > ethernet MAU? I just cheat and use a straight through DB-15 (waiting for someone to tell me it's a DQ-15 or something instead ;), like a PC

[cctalk] Need AUI cable

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Anyone in MD got an AUI cable (few feet long) I can steal so I don't have to remove the bolts from the Pro/380's Ethernet socket or the pins on my 10bt ethernet MAU? Friendly note: If you try to boot a Pro/380 running POS 3.2 with Decnet installed and don't have the loopback plug the system

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 27, 2023, at 7:26 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > On 27/06/2023 21:17, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >> > Different thing, I believe. >> >> Gotcha. I'd find it funny and perfectly fitting if DEC had two departments >> working on the same concept and coming up with

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 6/27/2023 7:26 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 27/06/2023 21:17, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Different thing, I believe. Gotcha. I'd find it funny and perfectly fitting if DEC had two departments working on the same concept and coming up with completely different, but

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 27/06/2023 21:17, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Different thing, I believe. Gotcha. I'd find it funny and perfectly fitting if DEC had two departments working on the same concept and coming up with completely different, but equally oddball solution Like the VAX 6000 and the VAX 9000 :-)

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
> Different thing, I believe. Gotcha. I'd find it funny and perfectly fitting if DEC had two departments working on the same concept and coming up with completely different, but equally oddball solutions. There's A-to-Z, which aimed to be something similar but small enough to run on a

[cctalk] Re: IBM/RT help

2023-06-27 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 12:34 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 6/27/23 09:42, Jonathan Katz via cctalk wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > Now that I'm done moving house I have time to wrench on the 6150. > > Before moving it worked; you'd power it on, the LCD status countdown > > would get to an OK

[cctalk] Re: IBM/RT help

2023-06-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 6/27/23 09:42, Jonathan Katz via cctalk wrote: Hey folks, Now that I'm done moving house I have time to wrench on the 6150. Before moving it worked; you'd power it on, the LCD status countdown would get to an OK value, but the CRT wasn't legible. I figured I'd be wrenching on the CRT.

[cctalk] IBM/RT help

2023-06-27 Thread Jonathan Katz via cctalk
Hey folks, Now that I'm done moving house I have time to wrench on the 6150. Before moving it worked; you'd power it on, the LCD status countdown would get to an OK value, but the CRT wasn't legible. I figured I'd be wrenching on the CRT. Instead, now when I power it on, it powers on for a

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 27, 2023, at 7:31 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > Sounds like P/OS for the Professional. I've heard of All-in-One, but didn't > realize they built something that was as bad an annoying as P/OS. I wonder if > it included Prose as a word processor. Different thing, I

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Sounds like P/OS for the Professional. I've heard of All-in-One, but didn't realize they built something that was as bad an annoying as P/OS. I wonder if it included Prose as a word processor. Speaking of which, I wonder if those apps would run on a regular pdp11/83 running RSX111M+. Maybe

[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?

2023-06-27 Thread Hans-Ulrich Hölscher via cctalk
A-to-Z is listed in https://doc.lagout.org/science/0_Computer%20Science/0_Computer%20History/old-hardware/dec/pdp11/catalogs/PDP_Systems_and_Options_Catalog_1988_Jul-Dec.pdf at several pdf pages, e.g. 54 & 412. It says: A-to-Z Base System The A-to-Z Base System is a user-installable, multiuser