Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/29/19 10:19 PM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: > If you get 2.11BSD up and going (which would require a CPU upgrade, it > won't run on the F11, needs split I+D), you can run a *native* IRC client! > One of the guys on #vc has written a minimalist IRC client that compiles > and runs on

Re: Greetings

2019-04-29 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/29/19 12:45 PM, allison via cctech wrote: > On 04/29/2019 11:37 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >> On 04/29/2019 06:47 AM, allison via cctech wrote: >>> On 04/28/2019 09:28 PM, Grant Taylor via cctech wrote: On 4/28/19 6:27 PM, Ray Jewhurst wrote: > I already have a Hobbyist License.  I am just

Re: SIMH question

2019-04-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/23/19 8:57 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > >> On Apr 23, 2019, at 5:34 PM, Charles via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> This may be a silly question... but how can I transfer a text file from my >> PC into SIMH for PDP-11? > > I've found the most convenient way to do this, for a file or two

PDP-11/93 and PMI Memory

2019-04-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Well, I was finally able to get a PMI memory board to expand my 11/93 to the full 4 Meg. (Thanks Paul!) I thought it would be as simple as configuring what bank I wanted it to fill and inserting it (in front of the CPU). Sadly, that didn't work. First problem is the only document i could find

Re: Digital Standard Mumps

2019-04-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/18/19 2:41 PM, Dan Veeneman wrote: > On 4/18/2019 2:27 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> my memory is that DSM-11 is an operating system all its own, not just a >> language processor running on top of a standard OS like RSTS. > > In the late 1980s and early 1990s, we used DSM running on

Digital Standard Mumps

2019-04-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Does anyone know what the current status of this might be? I am fairly certain Mentec didn't get this and I am not sure anyone did. Did it merely die when everyone thought Mumps was on the down hill slide? Was it ever really a DEC product or was it something DEC picked up along the way after

Re: ATEX PDP-11 For Sale in Houston

2019-04-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/16/19 11:49 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 04/15/2019 12:08 PM, Thomas Raguso via cctalk wrote: >> I am selling an Atex PDP-11/34. The computer has: J11 CPU, 11 MB RAM, 2 >> BA11-LE expansion chassis, a second backplane, an SMD disk controller and >> LAN hardware. >> >> > 11 MB ram on a

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-04-06 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/6/19 2:58 PM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote: > Any appetite at the CHM? > Marc > >> On Apr 6, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals >> It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the 360-era >> disk

Re: More stuff looking for a good home

2019-04-06 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Didn't really "find" these but being as I haven't yet used them and they have been sitting in my cabinet for over 10 years, maybe it's time to just let them go. :-) I have ten RZ28C-VW and one RZ28M-VZ. These are in the carriers for BA-360 Storage Shelves. They are still sealed in the

Re: More stuff looking for a good home

2019-04-06 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/5/19 1:04 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > Here's a list of some more stuff if anyone is interested in making > reasonable offers. Probably the last I will have before my demise > when my wife will likely send everything that's left to the skip. > > >

More stuff looking for a good home

2019-04-05 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Here's a list of some more stuff if anyone is interested in making reasonable offers. Probably the last I will have before my demise when my wife will likely send everything that's left to the skip. MODULE DescriptionQTY NUMBER M9202

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-04-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/2/19 11:21 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:09 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: >> >>> Try deleting everything on the device entry lines after "cnxint" >>> >>> (For reference, "cnrint" and "cn

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-04-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/2/19 2:26 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 9:39 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: >> >> OK. I put them back to cn (I thought cn stood for console and the ttys >> would be different, but fixed now). Sadly, I still get the "more th

Re: MV II help

2019-04-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/2/19 1:27 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 4/2/19 9:44 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> A number of choices for OS. OpenBSD or NetBSD should still work >> depending on the actual configuration of the system and VMS still >> has a hobbyist licens

Re: MV II help

2019-04-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/2/19 12:20 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > can anyone help this guy out? > > From: Benjamin Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 9:12 AM > > Subject: Fwd: Re: MicroVAX > >Greta, my name is Ben Carlson and I am attempting to restore an old DEC > MicroVAX II for the University of

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-04-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/1/19 10:47 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 5:55 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: >> >> OK, here we go with exactly what I get with the new kernel with >> NKL = 8 and entries in /etc/dtab for 7 serial lines. >> >> >>

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-04-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/1/19 9:56 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > > Based on: > "/netnix bad magic 407 > netinit failed" > > it looks like the networking portion of the kernel (built into /netnix) > was either not built correctly, or not installed properly.  Any errors > when building netnix?  Do you have a

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-04-01 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/31/19 4:29 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 12:50 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: > > > It's been a fun journey but I finally have 2.11 BSD (Patchlevel 431) > running on my real 11/93. >

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
It's been a fun journey but I finally have 2.11 BSD (Patchlevel 431) running on my real 11/93. On to the next challenges. Does anyone know which serial device I should configure for in order to get the other serial lines working? Everything I read says they are DL lines and calls the builtin

Re: Apollo Ethernet EPROM mystery

2019-03-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/28/19 5:17 PM, Eric Korpela via cctalk wrote: > If it's like the PC version, the two populated ROMS are firmware for the > 80186 and the 82586. The empty socket is the boot prom. > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 1:35 PM Phil Blundell via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> On Thu,

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-26 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/26/19 7:54 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > Mine has two entries: > > > tms 0 174500 2605 tmsintr # tmscp driver > > tms 1 164334 0 5 tmsintr # tmscp driver > > You set the vector on the second one to zero. Should it be > something

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-26 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/26/19 3:02 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:23 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: >> >> The saga continues!!! I really don;t remember it being this >> hard back in the good ole' days but then we had lots of real >> hardware to

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-26 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
The saga continues!!! I really don;t remember it being this hard back in the good ole' days but then we had lots of real hardware to work with and systems weren't kludges like what I have in my house. :-) I am currently working with E11 V7.3. My prime interest is in getting a 2.11 system

Re: Only never in Canada - dumb terminals

2019-03-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/23/19 12:07 PM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "ben via cctalk" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 5:02 AM > Subject: Re: Only never in Canada - dumb terminals > > >> On 3/23/2019 2:41 AM, Henk

Re: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/22/19 2:49 PM, stan via cctalk wrote: > > > On 2019-03-22 12:18 p.m., Brian Roth via cctalk wrote: >> I did check with an auto body supply shop and they said they could get >> a close match with paint to spray from a gun. I was hoping somebody >> may have found an off the shelf spray can

Re: Link MK1 and GP4

2019-03-20 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/20/19 3:39 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > >> Josh scanned some Link Mark I documentation, and I found a pdf describing >> some of the history of early Link digital flight simulators >> >> uploaded to: >> >>

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/16/19 3:12 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > >>> Now I need a program that can move Tape data back and forth between >>> real drives and tap/tpc images. Anybody got one? > > https://github.com/brouhaha/tapeutils > I just took a quick glance but somehow I doubt that's going to compile or

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/16/19 11:16 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 8:09 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: > > On 3/16/19 9:48 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 16

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/16/19 9:48 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 7:19 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: > > > > Hunk #11 succeeded at 1075. > Hunk #12 succeeded at 1250. > Overdue "---

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Hunk #11 succeeded at 1075. Hunk #12 succeeded at 1250. Overdue "---" at line 782--check line numbers at line 773. --- Has no one else noticed that a number of these patches fail? I am continuing to apply them and just hoping that I don't run into a point where one of the

Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-15 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Can I assume that all the patches have been applied and tested and none of them have been rescinded? Next, can I assume one need only apply them all in order to bring a system up to current level? And then the logical direction this is going. Is there any where I can find a file containing all

Re: atex system in Houston

2019-03-14 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/14/19 1:51 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: > In an earlier posting, I stated that the 4014 (with its 19" DVST tube) > was the largest DVST display that Tektronix made, to which > Paul K. responded: > >> An article about those terminals also turns up the 4016 (25 inch tube > -- 4014 is 19

2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-13 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Anybody had any luck with this configuration? I used VTServer to install it and everything works fine except for the very last step. It installs completely and boots from within VTServer with ra(0,0,0)unix. I issue the "dd if=/mdec/rauboot of=/def/rra0a count=1" and it completes successfully.

Re: 1983 UBC PDP-11 Unix tools distribution

2019-03-06 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/6/19 1:07 AM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > >> TRIUMF was using /11s for cyclotron control I believe, that's not >> where you anticipate UNIX showing up. > > But was it Unix or something else like RT-11?  Or was it a VAX? > >

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/19/19 12:37 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:39 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: >> >> All sounds like fun, but if the two emulations don't do RA81 >> correctly the information doesn't really do me much good. I >> certain

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/18/19 10:59 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:18 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: >> >> Well, all I really have are CQD module which does MSCP and TMSCP >> over SCSI. > > Do you have any SCSI tape drives? Sure. I have a SCS

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/18/19 9:02 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On 2/18/19 7:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> TU58, no -- that's not a file structured device on RSTS.

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/18/19 7:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On 2/18/19 4:35 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> For the case of RSTS, small or large is not a consideration. W

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/18/19 4:35 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 3:46 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >> >> SO, to start a wrap up on this topic. I had heard of people >> copying images made on SIMH to real disks and using them.

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
SO, to start a wrap up on this topic. I had heard of people copying images made on SIMH to real disks and using them. It now seems there are some serious strings attached to that idea. I know it works for small disks as I have done it with RL02 and RX/Ry disks. I have one more thing to try

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/16/19 3:57 PM, Zane Healy wrote: > >> On Feb 16, 2019, at 10:04 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> OK, as usual, I hac caused confusion and didn't get my point across. >> >> let's try with a detailed explanation of what I did that

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/16/19 12:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Lyle Bickley via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Bill, >> >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:55:10 + >> Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> >>> So, I used SIMH to

PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-16 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
So, I used SIMH to do an install of a complete OS on an RA81 disk. I would like to move this to a real disk and try it on a real PDP-11. Is there a way to do this using dd on a BSD machine? I tried but it created a non bootable system. Well, actually, it starts to boot but then fails very

Re: Wirewrap DIP sockets - any interest?

2019-02-11 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/11/19 3:29 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 2/11/19 3:25 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: >> Does anyone here still actively wire wrap circuits? I am thinking >> about dumping my inventory of nice machine pin wirewrap sockets. >> Lately they have b

Re: Wirewrap DIP sockets - any interest?

2019-02-11 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/11/19 3:25 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone here still actively wire wrap circuits? I am thinking > about dumping my inventory of nice machine pin wirewrap sockets. > Lately they have been selling like lead balloons. > > Contact me off list. > > -- > Will, in the Hudson

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

2019-02-07 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/7/19 4:49 AM, Phil Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2019, Tomasz Rola wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 03:08:14PM +, Phil Pemberton via cctalk >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm (still) trying to reverse-engineer a ton of M68K ROM code which >>> was apparently compiled with a

Re: TU-58 support under Unix

2019-02-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/3/19 5:13 PM, GREEN wrote: > I built support under V6 all in user space. That would be in the early 1980s > and I don’t recall it being very difficult. I suspect others did that as > well. Have you tried looking in the USENIX tapes? > I will probably look at writing a driver once I have

Re: TU-58 support under Unix

2019-02-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/3/19 3:41 PM, Aaron Jackson wrote: > TU-58 support wouldn't need to be in the kernel, it could easily run in > user space. Perhaps someone had written an application in user-space to > dump TU-58 tapes. I was looking for a device driver and when I didn't find it I looked at SPD's and release

TU-58 support under Unix

2019-02-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Here's a question for someone who has been around long enough to remember. Why did none of the available PDP-11 Unixes support the TU-58? I have looked at Ultrix-11, V7M and BSD 2.11 (didn't try 2.9 but I suspect if it isn't in 2.11 it wasn't in 2.9) and none of them had support for the TU-58.

Re: DEC TKZ10 Tapes

2019-02-01 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/1/19 3:20 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk wrote: > Hi *Bill > > I have 3x Bull 3215 tapes if you are willing to pay the postage from > Denmark. I can erase them on a Tandberg drive, if you want. > > Nico > > > On 31-01-2019 22:33, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wro

DEC TKZ10 Tapes

2019-01-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Does anyone have any DC6525 tape cartridges they would be willing to part with? One of the Expansion boxes on my VAX has a TKZ10 but none of the older QIC tapes I have can handle the format from this drive. bill

Re: 3850 media

2019-01-20 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/20/19 12:30 PM, cctalk via cctalk wrote: > Original lister has relisted the item > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3850-media-cartridge-1970s-vintage/123603101597 > > And now one shows up in the UK. Same photos and description. Very strange. > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113564749573 > >

VXT2000+

2019-01-20 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Bummer time I turned on my VXT2000+ today and after about 5 minutes there was a "pop" and a small puff of smoke from the power supply. No smell like you get from a selenium diode or other semiconductor. Now, the fan tries to run but only twitches and the led blinks slowly. No obvious

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/12/19 6:45 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: > On 01/12/2019 05:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> On 1/12/19 4:30 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: >>> On 01/12/2019 04:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >>>> On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/12/19 4:30 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: > On 01/12/2019 04:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: >>> On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >>>> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wro

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: > On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> >>> I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in >>> either a BA23 or a BA123.  I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/12/19 1:13 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > On 1/12/19 11:39 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> On 1/12/19 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >>> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >>> >>>> I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/12/19 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in >> either a BA23 or a BA123.  I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal for >> my /23+. > > I'm fairly certain all

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/12/19 12:24 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > On 11/01/2019 23:58, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:51 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >>> Mine are all BA23.  Wasn't the BA123 for the MicroVAX? >> >> As sold,

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/12/19 9:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > Well, the problem is definitely bus grant as with just two memory > cards in the machine I put the disk controller in and it does not > show up in the Map. The only problem with this is the question > Why? I have e

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Well, the problem is definitely bus grant as with just two memory cards in the machine I put the disk controller in and it does not show up in the Map. The only problem with this is the question Why? I have examined the memory cards. The C-D (actually, C) does have the bus grant lines

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-11 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/11/19 2:32 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Allison Parent > > > Most Probable cause is interrupt grant is broken. > > The only -11 that complains if the grant chain is broken that I know of is > the /34 (maybe the /04 too). I certainly have a QBUS chassis right next

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-11 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
t; > Phoned this in! > > > On Jan 11, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > > Well, it has been so long since I had to put together an > entire system I forgot what fun it can be. > > With almost documentation I was able to configure 4 1meg >

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/9/19 2:06 PM, Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Is there any interest in a DiscFerret in good working order? > > If so contact me off-list. I don't have a plan yet for the case interest > is >1. So, I accidentally replied to the list as well and it created quite a flurry

Re: PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/9/19 2:28 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk wrote: > > As far as I know about the 11/93 (or 11/94), all memory is on the CPU module. > The 11/9[3|4] is sort-of an 11/8[3|4] with all (PMI) memory on the CPU module > as the cache on the 8[3|4]. > > The 11/9[3|4] with 2 MB RAM can only be upgraded

Re: Interest in a DiscFerret?

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/9/19 2:06 PM, Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Is there any interest in a DiscFerret in good working order? > > If so contact me off-list. I don't have a plan yet for the case interest > is >1. > What were you hoping to get for it? I have no idea what they went for

PDP-11 Memory

2019-01-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Well, I have decided to stop playing with my hardware for a while and get back to playing with software. :-) In order to do this I am building three (maybe four) PDP-11's. I have an 11/93, an 11/73 and an 11/23+ (and maybe another 11/23 or 11/73). BUt, I have run into a small problem.

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 4:14 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > On 12/18/2018 3:35 PM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: >> >> >> On 12/18/18 12:38 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: >> Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 4:27 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: > Having worked at IBM “in the day”, the “official” reason (near as I could > tell) was that IBM didn’t want to anthropomorphise computers. So it was > never “memory”, it was always “storage”. So we didn’t have RAM or ROM, we > had

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>>> I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at the moment >> so I

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 3:15 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 11:59 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: >> I do have some 12AX7's lying around... > > sell them > > > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. bill

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
ccmp.org writes: > > > On 2018-12-19 2:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: >>> >>>> I've been f

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > >> I've been following @foone's development of the Snood Bloober on Twitter. > > "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib (now sold by the Russians on eBay) > and the SnBl >

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 12:43 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote: > On 2018-12-19 12:23, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department >> I used to work at. An HP with a SCSI interface. Works great, >> supported by SANE. >

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 11:15 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> On Dec 19, 2018, at 12:49 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> I wonder if I will face theses issuea with the cof ax scanner software and >> a megabux retired scanner we were gifted.. .. thing Is bw only.. > > With old scanners,

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

2018-12-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/8/18 7:36 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 12/8/18 4:43 PM, Michael Mulhern wrote: >> We are the spambot challenge? > > Something like that. > > > Until people started commenting on it I never saw it.  It was flagged as SPAM and never showed up in my INBOX. bill

Re: seagate 801-> Q-bus interface

2018-12-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/8/18 4:48 PM, Paul Anderson via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone know who made a controller for a Seagate 800 or 801 floppy that > will plug into the Q-bus? Model numbers wound be nice to. > > Thanks, Paul Andromeda made one.  UDC11.  And you needed A "Personality Card", WPC8F.  I have a

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

2018-12-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/8/18 1:18 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > The DECUS conference proceedings I've scanned > gives attendance > > DECUS membership 1961-1972 > > 1961 12 > 1962 25 > 1963 43 > 1964 202 > 1965 426 > 1966 850 > 1967 2008 > 1968 3476 > 1969 6054 > 1970 9110 > 1971 12213 - 5590

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

2018-12-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/8/18 1:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/8/18 9:50 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> What I know about first-hand was all the research on The >> >> Software Tools Virtual Operating System.  I had worked with >> >> it  on Pr1me a

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

2018-12-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/8/18 12:22 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/8/18 8:26 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> I also know of stuff given to USENIX >> that they tossed (luckily some of that has been recovered >> but I am sure much was lost permanently). > Paper or USENIX

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

2018-12-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/8/18 11:16 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/8/18 7:10 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> As long as we're talking about old PDP-11 DECUS stuff I >> >> am still looking for a copy of: >> >> 11S042   Symposium Tape from the RSTS

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

2018-12-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/8/18 10:00 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 6:09 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote: > >> someone should get the source off him and put it out on the web >> >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 4:34 PM Mattis Lind via cctalk < >>

Another p112 Query

2018-12-06 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
While we are talking about the P122   :-) Has anyone tried and/or had luck using an 8" floppy drive on the P112? bill

Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/4/18 10:28 AM, Warner Losh wrote: On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 7:45 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: >> I don't know who did it, but

Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: >> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw >> >> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my

Re: e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

2018-11-25 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
en you get something that uses Cyrillic and now >> you're looking at having another HP 2645 set up to do Russian. And hoping >> your host software knows how to deal with those character sets and >> encodings too! >> >> -Frank McConnell >> >> On Nov 25, 201

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-25 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/25/18 6:06 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 11/25/18 2:53 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 23:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk >> wrote: >> >>> I bet you see all sorts of things that I'm ignorant of. >> It's been enlightening! > I routinely get Turkish and Greek

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-25 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/25/18 5:42 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 11/23/18 5:52 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: >> Worse than that, it's *American* ignorance and cultural snobbery >> which also affects various English-speaking countries. > > Please do not ascribe such ignorance with such a broad

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/21/18 5:19 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Ed, > It is YOUR mail program that is doing the extraneous insertions, and > then not showing them to you when you view your own messages. > > ALL of us see either extraneous characters, or extraneous spaces in > everything that you send! > I

Re: MSDN CD disposition

2018-10-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/31/18 8:24 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 10/31/18 5:09 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> Since there is nothing on them that would identify you, there are a >> number of people who would gladly help you to properly dispose of them. > I wonder how many MSDN subscribers held onto

The Andromeda Disk Controller again

2018-10-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
When we talked about this little bit ago I thought there were a couple other people who had them.  Any chance someone has a copy of the utilities disk they could rip and email to me? I just tried to read  mine and it appears to have a bad spot right on the oct.sav file which is the program

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-29 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/29/18 8:59 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 05:43:37PM +0100, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote: > [...] >> For mission critical stuff this may be ok, but what's the >> advantage for the desktop if you can't even run Virtualbox or Qemu, >> simh, cpmsim, dosbox and other

Re: pdp-11 ethernet boot

2018-10-29 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/28/18 11:02 PM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:34 PM Charles Dickman via cctalk > wrote: >> The boot ROMs for uPDP-11 contain loaders for XH (ethernet) was there any >> kind of standard for the server? > I'd guess that it was mostly for DECserver 500/550s

Re: TRS-80 Model I modification

2018-10-26 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/26/18 2:07 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote: On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Does anyone have a description of how to put 48K of memory in the TRS-80 Model I without using an Expansion Interface? I seem to remember there bein

TRS-80 Model I modification

2018-10-26 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Does anyone have a description of how to put 48K of memory in the TRS-80 Model I without using an Expansion Interface?  I seem to remember there being some published back in the old days but can't find anything on the web.  I think it was done with 4164's and a few pieces of wire wrap wire to

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/24/18 9:45 AM, Nemo via cctalk wrote: > On 24/10/2018, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote (in part): > [...] >> Come to think of it, most Linux users I know are Windows converts. >> Very few are Mac converts -- once you go Mac, you can't go back, >> apparently. > Why would you? (Mac is

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/24/18 5:47 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 20:01, Alan Perry via cctalk > wrote: > >> Excuse me, but I work for Oracle on Solaris (primarily on USB code) and >> it is not EOL. Oracle just released Solaris 11.4 and the next release is >> being worked on. > Oh!

Re: Selling keyboards without the terminal

2018-10-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/19/18 1:18 PM, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk wrote: >> On Oct 19, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Here is a great example of why the keyboards and terminals are getting >> separated > > Keyboard fetishists are vermin; They are destructive and have no redeeming >

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 10/19/18 1:14 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > >>> IBM developed a Token Ring card for the PC in time for its launch > IBM's initial networking for the PC (The PC Network) was broadband, based > on technology from Sytek. 4Mb token ring was released later. Exact dates > are in the manuals on

Cleaning out again #2

2018-10-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Here's a list of  my next batch of stuff that can be mailed.  Make an offer. Plan on USPS "if it fits it ships" postage. Data Translation DT2769/EP057 QTY 2 Data Translation DT15150/EP075 Dual D/A Converter Module ADAC 1616/32HCO ADAC 1632TTL   

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