[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-11-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 31, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > Thank you Rich for shedding light on this. Most of it makes sense to me, > but the secrecy part where you weren't allowed to talk to those still at > the museum is weird. I can't see any possible commercial reason for > preventing fo

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-11-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 31, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > > Tour guides and front desk personnel were immediately let go, because it was > clear that it would be several months, up to a year, before we could open > again. Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook etc. were willing to pay all of

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-11-01 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:50:42 -0700 > From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk > I'm hoping Rich Alderson will pipe in and give us the actual story as to > what's going on with the LCM and its collection, but there's a possibility > that he may be legally constricted from giving comment at this time.

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-11-01 Thread pontus via cctalk
Thank you for sheding some light on what transpired. Regards, Pontus On 2022-11-01 00:31, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: First, let me thank Sellam and Tom for inviting me to comment on this topic. LCM+L closed its doors to the public in March 2020, at the height of the initial pandemic (in

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Thank you Rich for shedding light on this. Most of it makes sense to me, but the secrecy part where you weren't allowed to talk to those still at the museum is weird. I can't see any possible commercial reason for preventing former engineering staff to talk with their former colleagues or replaceme

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread js--- via cctalk
On 10/31/2022 6:31 PM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: ... LCM+L closed its doors to the public in March 2020... This project was the response to the original order simply to turn everything off. We pointed out vociferously how much damage that would do to the dinosaurs, reminding the nontechn

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Mark Huffstutter via cctalk
Alderson via cctalk Cc: Chuck Guzis Subject: [cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum) On 10/31/22 16:31, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > > That's as much as I know. I'm a bit curious if the Connection Museum managed to stay open during the Plague. Does anyone know? -- --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/31/22 16:31, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > > That's as much as I know. I'm a bit curious if the Connection Museum managed to stay open during the Plague. Does anyone know? -- --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
First, let me thank Sellam and Tom for inviting me to comment on this topic. LCM+L closed its doors to the public in March 2020, at the height of the initial pandemic (in the sense that it had become clear that the Covid-19 virus was not a passing thing), because our entire mission was to make pos

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Michael Brutman via cctalk
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 12:48 AM Bushie via cctalk wrote: > I've been recently been told, in person, by someone who works there that > they are actually remodeling and just getting ready to open. Of course, > I brought up the recently closures by Vulcan but this person assured me > that this wasn

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Kevin Anderson via cctalk
The LCM has some of stuff (a Zenith Z150 PC computer, including monitor and an early paged memory expansion that I installed, a couple of Apple IIc computers and monitors, a printer, but probably more important, a bunch of original MS-DOS software diskettes and manuals from the mid-1980s to the

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Chris Zach wrote: > All that said, if I have to drive out to Seattle with a U-Haul I'll do > it. Again. But I would prefer them to be displayed, taken care of, > loved. AI is available right now from here: ssh i...@tty.livingcomputers.org It's running under the name LC ITS now, but it's the ori

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Unless you gave something to them with conditions, that's unlikely to work. Normally, when you give a thing to another person, that person is free to do with it what he wants. For example, if someone doesn't like a birthday present, he can throw it away, or give it to someone else, and you ha

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
> On Oct 31, 2022, at 06:57, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > >  > >> On Oct 31, 2022, at 12:13 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 12:34:29PM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >>> >> [...] >>> >>> Even if it doesn't reopen, I'd hope that its collect

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 31, 2022, at 12:13 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 12:34:29PM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> > [...] >> >> Even if it doesn't reopen, I'd hope that its collection would not >> simply be scrapped. I imagine a lot of people here would be >> i

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Bushie via cctalk
I've been recently been told, in person, by someone who works there that they are actually remodeling and just getting ready to open. Of course, I brought up the recently closures by Vulcan but this person assured me that this wasn't the case for the LCM. On 10/30/2022 10:16 AM, Royce Taft via

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-31 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
The Internet is wonderful for misinformation and a good laugh. Here even Paul Allen's sister Jody can morph into Paul's wife.:-) Rich Alderson please provide the LCM facts if you can to stop the silly rumours. On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 11:36 AM Michael Kerpan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Yea they are squatting on something SMECC museum would dearly love Ed Sharpe - Archivist for SMECC Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 9:13 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 12:34:29PM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > [...]

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-30 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Tomasz, This is a very interesting and relevant question. To the extent that there is an implied and enforceable contract between donor and donee that a donation not be neglected or removed from public use, if a donated item were to actually be removed from public use, that would definitely be ac

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-30 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 12:34:29PM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > [...] > > Even if it doesn't reopen, I'd hope that its collection would not > simply be scrapped. I imagine a lot of people here would be > interested in parts of it. I'm one of them... If I was a donator, I would now be

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-30 Thread Michael Kerpan via cctalk
The museum had been one of Paul Allen's private passion projects. Sadly, he died rather unexpectedly and he hadn't really had time to set up a proper legal entity to protect it after his death, so it and all his other passion projects ended up controlled by his wife's real estate company which star

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-30 Thread Royce Taft via cctalk
That’s really disappointing to hear. I only discovered that museum for myself via their website a couple of years ago and had no idea that it closed. I had planned on visiting next time my wife and I travel to Seattle. I hope that they are able to reopen. Royce Sent from my iPhone > On Oct

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-10-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 30, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Michael Brutman via cctalk > wrote: > > My apologies if this topic is a sore point for some of you. Their abrupt > closing wasn't that long ago. > > Does anybody have any insight on what is going on there? The web site has > not been updated in about 2.5 yea