[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-09 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023, Paul Koning wrote: That may be true for some of them. But typesetting usage has 6 channels on tape sized to carry just 6. For example, the Linotype Yes, but if I'm remembering correctly, the width is the same. Only the typesetter tapes have the sprocket holes in the

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/9/23 04:09, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> The 12-channel tape used on line printers (e.g. IBM 1403), was, IIRC, >> Mylar-coated.  Much wider than regular 1" paper tape, however. > > All form control tapes I have are normal "paper" tapes. I have

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-09 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
You recall correctly; I ran a 101 with my Commodore PET for several years and it did indeed use 1" 8 channel paper tape for vertical form control. Side note: because of its size and noise it was in the basement, connected to the PET in the upstairs office with a ~40 foot ribbon cable, contrary to

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-09 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 9, 2023, at 7:06 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk > wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Adrian Godwin wrote: >> Getting tape made to order might come in handy if you want odd sizes. 5 and >> 8 channel tape is fairly common, but there was also 6 and 7 channel tape (in >> widths specific

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-09 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Chuck Guzis wrote: The 12-channel tape used on line printers (e.g. IBM 1403), was, IIRC, Mylar-coated. Much wider than regular 1" paper tape, however. All form control tapes I have are normal "paper" tapes. I have not seen such a mylar tape, yet. Christian

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-09 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Adrian Godwin wrote: Getting tape made to order might come in handy if you want odd sizes. 5 and 8 channel tape is fairly common, but there was also 6 and 7 channel tape (in widths specific to those types) which is far less common. I haven't seen 6 channel tape since the

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
This wasn't a large IBM lineprinter and I'm pretty sure it was 1" tape, but it may well have been inspired by those machines. It would likely have been used with custom fanfold paper for invoices, cheques etc. - certainly the same sort of customer-specific those machines dealt with, but for the

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 8, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Adrian Godwin wrote: > > ... > I've seen mylar tape used in a tiny loop where it controlled the movements of > a printer platen. I don't recall now whether it was used for horizontal or > vertical space - my recollection was the latter but it was a long time

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Pun h makes all  holesEd#         SMECC  Sent from AOL on Android On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 9:21 AM, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: A slitter is a wide paper feed system with sharp-edged pulleys over which it passes. There are quite a few videos of this on youtube, it's surprisingly well

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
IIRC the Centronics 101 printers did this.   It was for vertical spacing - you could put different loops in for different form lengths. I used to service them (mostly replacing heads) but never operated :-) cheers, Nigel On 2023-06-08 13:18, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Jun 8,

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/8/23 10:18, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: > I've seen mylar tape used in a tiny loop where it controlled the movements > of a printer platen. I don't recall now whether it was used for horizontal > or vertical space - my recollection was the latter but it was a long time > ago. The

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 6:01 PM Paul Koning wrote: > I wonder if mylar tape for punching could be found, or made. That was > seen occasionally, for applications where a tape needed to be read many > times. An OS binary tape might want that. I also remember seeing it on a > machine in my

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 8, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 6/8/23 09:51, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote: >> The puches I have knowledge of do all 9 holes. >> Similarly, the blank tape stock (of my acquaintance) is unpunched. > > That would figure in why I occasionally see tapes

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/8/23 09:51, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote: > The puches I have knowledge of do all 9 holes. > Similarly, the blank tape stock (of my acquaintance) is unpunched. That would figure in why I occasionally see tapes with irregularly-spaced feed holes. That clears that mystery up. Instead of

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 8, 2023, at 12:21 PM, Adrian Godwin via cctalk > wrote: > > A slitter is a wide paper feed system with sharp-edged pulleys over which > it passes. There are quite a few videos of this on youtube, it's > surprisingly well documented. Because slitter manufacturers are selling to >

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Travis Pierce via cctalk
huck Guzis > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape > > On 6/8/23 08:52, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: > > I think paper-slitters are pretty common. That is to say, if you go to > > anyone manufacturing adding machine rolls they will have the > > capabi

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
: William Sudbrink Subject: [cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape The punch (on an ASR33 anyway) punches the feed (center) holes. All the rolls I have are completely unperforated. -Original Message- From: Chuck Guzis via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Thursday

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
: [cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape On 6/8/23 08:52, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: > I think paper-slitters are pretty common. That is to say, if you go to > anyone manufacturing adding machine rolls they will have the > capability to make custom widths in rather small job l

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
A slitter is a wide paper feed system with sharp-edged pulleys over which it passes. There are quite a few videos of this on youtube, it's surprisingly well documented. Because slitter manufacturers are selling to mom-and-pop outfits. I think the tape is supplied unpunched and the tape punch

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/8/23 08:52, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: > I think paper-slitters are pretty common. That is to say, if you go to > anyone manufacturing adding machine rolls they will have the capability to > make custom widths in rather small job lots. It's an industry comparable > with printing (and

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
I think paper-slitters are pretty common. That is to say, if you go to anyone manufacturing adding machine rolls they will have the capability to make custom widths in rather small job lots. It's an industry comparable with printing (and often combined, for when till rolls with custom printing is

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-08 Thread David Gesswein via cctalk
Someone did a paper-slitter in this thread https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/paper-tape-punch-service-and-request.1242805/page-2#post-1319033 On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 06:19:26PM -, robot...@gmail.com wrote: > For various reasons (including, but not limited to, insanity and >

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-05 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Thanks to the estate of a "silent key" I have more paper tape than I will ever use. If you are interested, let me know and I will sell you a couple of rolls. I have both beige and black. Bill Sudbrink -Original Message- From: Robotguy via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent:

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-05 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
The perforations might be a problem but could this work ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324481731229 On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:58 PM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > There is this for ideas… > > https://www.instructables.com/DIY-Paper-TapePunch-Card-Maker-and-Reader/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-05 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
There is this for ideas… https://www.instructables.com/DIY-Paper-TapePunch-Card-Maker-and-Reader/ Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2023, at 12:29, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: This is an awesome idea, please make it. How great would it be to load a receipt-paper roll (made of heavier stock

[cctalk] Re: Source for NEW (unused) punch tape

2023-06-05 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
This is an awesome idea, please make it. How great would it be to load a receipt-paper roll (made of heavier stock of course), lase the holes and pass the paper over a vacuum slot to suck the chads. I was trying to come up with a mostly 3d-printable, cam-driven punch myself but of course it will