On 8/25/2023 9:46 AM, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote:
I feel like people are over-thinking the Apple 1 thing.
Apple made a lot of people rich, and I think the number of rich Apple
people who want to be able to throw parties and say stuff like, "Oh,
yes, that's my Apple I that I paid a mi
gt; >>> On Aug 24, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>> It's obvious that the Apple 1 has the value it does not so much for its
> >>> technology but for what it represen
I feel like people are over-thinking the Apple 1 thing.
Apple made a lot of people rich, and I think the number of rich Apple
people who want to be able to throw parties and say stuff like, "Oh,
yes, that's my Apple I that I paid a million dollars for."
substantially exceeds the number
k@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> It's obvious that the Apple 1 has the value it does not so much for its
>>> technology but for what it represents, and that's all that matters.
>>
>> This reminds me of the observation that economic
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 9:27 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 24, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > It's obvious that the Apple 1 has the val
> On Aug 24, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> It's obvious that the Apple 1 has the value it does not so much for its
> technology but for what it represents, and that's all that matters.
This reminds me of the observation that eco
is worth $1Tn does not make the
> Apple 1 more historic.
>
Apple is the only company of that early micro/home-computer era to still
exist today. I think Cromemco still exists in Europe, but in an extremely
vertical market.
So there's that.
> I agree the aApple I stands out among
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 20:51 Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
> The Jolt was the first 6502, how much is that worth?
>
Did the Jolt predate the KIM-1? I don't know their introduction dates.
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 21:27 Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> The PACE itself was a re-cast of the NSC IMP-16 chipset.
>
The IMP-16 and PACE architectures were similar (and similar to the DG
Nova), but they weren't binary or source compatible. Apparently NS didn't
think there was enough of an
first appliance
computer.
Basically the Apple I is the first Apple. Historic yes but not off the
charts historic for it's time.
I don't mean to be argumentative. I totally get it why the apple I is
historic and valuable, but the proportion is lost. My only point, the
proportion. The fact that to
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 08:54 Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
> The Apple I is not historically significant enough alone to justify
> the prices they get
>
The first product sold by the first company to hit $1T market cap seems
historically significant to me.
AFAIK the Apple 1 was also
On 8/17/23 17:40, ben via cctalk wrote:
> Did any body ever buy the PACE 16 cpu? Godbout ad, DEC 1975, BYTE page 9.
I grabbed one and manuals as a freebie at Wescon, I think. I built it
onto an S100 board (PMOS-TTL level translation will add lots of parts).
I got it going, and then, I thought
On 2023-08-17 2:30 p.m., Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 4:07 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I should add that part of the fun is to locate parts for free or cheap
from
dead or unimportant period electronics, cards,
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 4:07 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> > I should add that part of the fun is to locate parts for free or cheap
> from
> > dead or unimportant period electronics, cards, etc. In that way slowly
> > building up what is
> On Aug 17, 2023, at 3:18 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> ...
> Unicorn electronics, sells replica parts.
> NOW you know why the sell for on ebay. :)
> Ben.
> https://unicornelectronics.com/
Nice. They seem to have lots of stuff at decent prices. Impressive to see
SN7441 ICs,
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I should add that part of the fun is to locate parts for free or cheap from
dead or unimportant period electronics, cards, etc. In that way slowly
building up what is needed to complete parts of the Apple I replica one
piece at a time. I am
On 2023-08-17 12:28 p.m., Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 4:08 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
But...because the apple I is so valuable people have been motivated to
produce really nice replica motherboards. The replicas give many the
chance to experience the Apple I at
> there aren't a lot of places to encounter massive PMOS shift registers.
I someone had told me around 1975 that these would become Valuable Collectibles
I would have laughed my ass off.
Maybe I should get around to doing something with those ceramic 1702s.
Probably equally "collectible" now.
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 2:34 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 2:28 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
> I should add that part of the fun is to locate parts for free or cheap from
> dead or unimportant period electronics, cards, etc. In that way slowly
> building up what is
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 6:11 PM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
wrote:
> I have an IMSAI as well, but for me my favourite computer of that era is the
> KIM-1, and that's such a simple design there are tons of implementations
I only recently got a KIM-1 (at VCF East). It's been on my list for a
while
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 2:28 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 4:08 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
> wrote:
> > But...because the apple I is so valuable people have been motivated to
> > produce really nice replica motherboards. The replicas give many
wide and varied (as demonstrated by what I
bring to VCF) and totally encompass all sorts of 6502 systems. The
specific interest the Apple 1 has for me is how screwy the video
implementation is (cheap in its time but an evolutionary dead end) and
how much it can do with 256 bytes of ROM and 8K of RAM
The MITS emulator can't play Daisy :D
As I was leaving VCF late a few months ago, I was rolling an Apple2 around
outside on a cart - and a student across the street was walking by. I
didn't think much of it, then he ran over and asked "isn't that an Apple?"
So it occured to me: he was excited
Cool.
One of packages that I supported also ran on the "Medium Systems" (B3000
and B4000 at that point). When I needed to run tests on those machines,
I had to drive to the Pasadena office. There was an old-school fish bowl
system operator room though it hadn't been used as such for a long
Ah, BBM memories...
My first paying programmer/operator job was on a B260 in the late 60s, the
first Burroughs minicomputer in Canada IIRC. Many years later, after trying
a few other careers including managing a large motorcycle dealership, I
wound up back with Burroughs doing contract
As a matter of fact a local friend, Josh Bensadon, restored their MCM/70
for the York U museum in Toronto
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 8/5/23 16:30, John Herron wrote:
> > For no personally good reason other than the stigma (and technically
> > incorrect)
Yup!
There's one in the local University's museum, and the curator even wrote a
book about its interesting history.
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 8/5/23 16:30, John Herron wrote:
> > For no personally good reason other than the stigma (and technically
> >
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> If I weren't old and if I were a collector, I'd be going after an MCM/70
> as my target. 8008 CPU, APL and pretty darned close to the first
> mobile-capable PC.
>
> Gotta love them Canadians.
>
Definitely a sleeper. Very hard to
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 3:32 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> I have a MITS Altair 8800 that I constructed from the kit back in 1975.
> I haven't touched the thing in over 30 years--nor am I likely to.
> It'll probably go to the e-recycler (hopefully not the landfill) when I
> shed this mortal
My holy grail is a Burroughs B1965. I was one of the last people at
Burroughs (Unisys at that point) fixing bugs in the system software on
B1000 (the only one in the Lake Forest, CA office; all of the sys admins
knew of the B1965 there as "my" machine.). My office was filled with
B1000
On 8/5/23 16:30, John Herron wrote:
> For no personally good reason other than the stigma (and technically
> incorrect) being the first PC, the Altair 8800 is my holy Grail. Some
> day I'd like to have a real one but they increase in value at the same
> rate as my income lol so not likely going
For no personally good reason other than the stigma (and technically
incorrect) being the first PC, the Altair 8800 is my holy Grail. Some day
I'd like to have a real one but they increase in value at the same rate as
my income lol so not likely going to happen. It's a neat system though and
like
On 8/5/23 15:58, b...@techtimetraveller.com wrote:
> Do you have an emotional attachment to it? I just saw one sell on ebay
> yesterday for $6100. An e-recycler will have a nice payday on your Altair.
>
No real attachment; it was a useful tool for a time. It took an entire
weekend with
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Cc: Sellam Abraham
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Apple 1
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:48 AM Joshua Rice via cctalk
wrote:
>
> The Apple 1 is collectible purely because it was the first product
> Apple made.
Not really, though that's part of it.
-Original Message-
From: Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 3:32 PM
To: Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
Cc: Chuck Guzis
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Apple 1
I have a MITS Altair 8800 that I constructed from the kit back in 1975.
I haven't touched the thing in over 30 years--nor am I likely
I have a MITS Altair 8800 that I constructed from the kit back in 1975.
I haven't touched the thing in over 30 years--nor am I likely to.
It'll probably go to the e-recycler (hopefully not the landfill) when I
shed this mortal coil or simply become incompetent. IIRC it ran about
$1,000--and that
> Personally I use my IMSAI somewhat regularly, thats my favorite computer
> from the mid 70s.
I have an IMSAI as well, but for me my favourite computer of that era is the
KIM-1, and that's such a simple design there are tons of reimplementations
(though I prefer the original since some of them
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:48 AM Joshua Rice via cctalk
wrote:
>
> The Apple 1 is collectible purely because it was the first product Apple
> made.
Not really, though that's part of it. The value of the Apple 1 has more to
do with the Cult of Steve than anything else. Steve Jobs became
really don't do much with them. Haven't
even turned one on since I retired from the University in 2015 and they
came home .
Wouldn't take an Apple 1 as a gift but I, too, would love to have an IMSAI
and a SWTPC 6800.
But...because the apple I is so valuable people have been motivated to
p
much with them. Haven't
>
> even turned one on since I retired from the University in 2015 and they
>
> came home .
>
> Wouldn't take an Apple 1 as a gift but I, too, would love to have an IMSAI
>
> and a SWTPC 6800.
>
>
>
But...because the apple I is so valuable peop
On 2023-08-05 11:16 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 8/3/23 00:45, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote:
Value is a very much reliant on both desirability and historical significance.
I guarantee most people who own an Apple 1 never use it, and it sits in a
cabinet/shelf somewhere. Transversely
On 8/3/2023 3:45 AM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote:
I’d still prefer the IMSAI 8080 or SWTPC 6800 though.
While I have a couple Apple ]['s I really don't do much with them. Haven't
even turned one on since I retired from the University in 2015 and they
came home .
Wouldn't take an Apple
On 8/3/23 00:45, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote:
> Value is a very much reliant on both desirability and historical
> significance. I guarantee most people who own an Apple 1 never use it, and it
> sits in a cabinet/shelf somewhere. Transversely, I’m sure there’s very few
> Amiga 1
Value is a very much reliant on both desirability and historical significance.
I guarantee most people who own an Apple 1 never use it, and it sits in a
cabinet/shelf somewhere. Transversely, I’m sure there’s very few Amiga 1200’s
purely on display, with the vast majority in collectors hands
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:44 AM Gordon Henderson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Something has to be the most sought-after thing in every collectors'
> > hobby. The Apple I is not historically significant enough alone to
> justify
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
Something has to be the most sought-after thing in every collectors'
hobby. The Apple I is not historically significant enough alone to justify
the prices they get, there is a cultural/memorabilia component too. Just
rare enough to form an
Bill
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 2:03 PM Peter Corlett via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 04, 2023 at 08:51:31AM -0500, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
> > [...]
> > > That price is interesting. Does that imply the value has gone d
Fri, Aug 04, 2023 at 08:51:31AM -0500, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
> [...]
> > That price is interesting. Does that imply the value has gone down after
> > some skyrocketed close to 1 million? One still has to make the decision
> of
> > a owning a house or an apple 1.
&g
On Fri, Aug 04, 2023 at 08:51:31AM -0500, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> That price is interesting. Does that imply the value has gone down after
> some skyrocketed close to 1 million? One still has to make the decision of
> a owning a house or an apple 1.
Well, both of them ar
Apple 1 prices have definitely peaked...for now. But you won't find one for
a few funded dollars in your lifetime, if ever. They're now an object of a
rich man's obsession.
Sellam
On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 6:51 AM John Herron via cctalk
wrote:
> That price is interesting. Does that imply the va
That price is interesting. Does that imply the value has gone down after
some skyrocketed close to 1 million? One still has to make the decision of
a owning a house or an apple 1.
On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 1:08 AM Christian Corti via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2
On Wed, 2 Aug 2023, Murray McCullough wrote:
Classic computers have a value in our capitalist society. Take the Apple-1:
Not necessarily. Something only gets a value if there is a demand or
market. As I repeatedly see old classic systems scrapped because nobody
wants them/has space to store
Classic computers have a value in our capitalist society. Take the Apple-1:
Its value can be in the $100,000s. One is for sale now: ~ $200,000. Next
seems to be the Kenbak-1 valued somewhere around $50,000. Now, I’m not
suggesting money is the epitome for evaluating our hobby but it goes a long
A person would have to be pretty good to fool a lot of us here on this
mailing list when presented with a fake Apple I. There are certain things
that would give it away. Not saying it would be impossible but it would be
eventually exposed. I can't imagine someone who knows art and appraisals
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jim Manley via cctalk
wrote:
> It's been estimated by experts that a third to half of the "original
> artwork", previously valued at a total in the tens of billions in museums
> and collectors' places, are counterfeits.
35 years ago I was in Anaheim for DECUS and
The "restoration" hopefully is 100% on the ICs as a $400k price needs the
original IC set not work if that was the case. At least I'd think having the
original parts is more useful to the buyer. You can or get an emulator for
the Apple 1, which is cute, but isn't that great
d) video linked to the auction listing from Corey
Cohen. From what I have seen in the past he is pretty much the expert
on Apple 1 restoration and authentication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDTchQuP_Ec
In any case, it doesn't really matter too much what any of us here
think. Anyone that
I really don't need another one.
Bob
Saver of lost Sols
hen. From what I have seen in the past he is pretty much the expert
> on Apple 1 restoration and authentication.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDTchQuP_Ec
>
> In any case, it doesn't really matter too much what any of us here
> think. Anyone that was seriously going to put up the money for this
> would know how to go about authenticating this item.
>
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 8:23 AM W2HX via cctalk wrote:
>
> What am I missing? The picture shown on RR auctions shows the board with no
> chips?
Watch the (unlisted) video linked to the auction listing from Corey
Cohen. From what I have seen in the past he is pretty much the expert
o
nt as well.
The "restoration" hopefully is 100% on the ICs as a $400k price needs
the original IC set not work if that was the case. At least I'd think
having the original parts is more useful to the buyer. You can or get an
emulator for the Apple 1, which is cute, but isn't that great a machi
ssage-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Adrian Stoness via
> cctalk
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:32 PM
> To: Ali ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
> Posts
> Subject: Re: Apple 1 and memorabilia up for auction in Boston (NOT on Epay)
>
> thi
What am I missing? The picture shown on RR auctions shows the board with no
chips?
Search for Apple in the search box at the top. There are some Woz
Schematics for the Apple II, the Apple 1 and a bunch of other stuff.
Looks like some of it might be Woz's stuff but hard to tell.
Apple 1
What am I missing? The picture shown on RR auctions shows the board with no
chips?
-Original Message-
From: cctalk On Behalf Of Adrian Stoness via
cctalk
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:32 PM
To: Ali ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Apple 1
this is up on RR auction
https://www.rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=6001
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 9:30 PM Ali via cctalk
wrote:
> > Of interest to the early apple fans on here:
> >
> > https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/93832586_apple-1-computer-with-
> > original-box-signed-by-steve
>
> Of interest to the early apple fans on here:
>
> https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/93832586_apple-1-computer-with-
> original-box-signed-by-steve
I wanted to see the box and accessories But alas no picture of the goods.
-Ali
Of interest to the early apple fans on here:
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/93832586_apple-1-computer-with-original-box-signed-by-steve
Steve
That was one of the use cases of Sun's Display Postscript where another
program on another host was able to get equal access to a window on an
work-station.
Sun or NeXT?
- Ethan
mån 2020-06-15 klockan 09:25 -0400 skrev Ethan O'Toole via cctalk:
> >
>
> That is wild! That would have been an interesting product.
>
> > The justification for the Cray was to experiment with what could be
> > done
> > if you had a Macintosh with the power of a Cray. It had a pretty
> >
Who is Robert Cray? Any relation to Seymour?
He's a musician.
Jon
That plugs up the eBay searches for Cray Computer posters.
Ethan
On 06/15/2020 11:59 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 6/15/20 4:44 PM, Justin Goldberg via cctalk wrote:
Robert Cray always bragged that the newest Apple was designed with a Cray,
whereas the newest Cray was designed with an Apple. A superlative example
of the KISS principle, if it's true.
On 6/15/20 4:44 PM, Justin Goldberg via cctalk wrote:
> Robert Cray always bragged that the newest Apple was designed with a Cray,
> whereas the newest Cray was designed with an Apple. A superlative example
> of the KISS principle, if it's true.
>
Who is Robert Cray? Any relation to Seymour?
Robert Cray always bragged that the newest Apple was designed with a Cray,
whereas the newest Cray was designed with an Apple. A superlative example
of the KISS principle, if it's true.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 10:16 PM Ethan O'Toole via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > He didn't know
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 15:25, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
wrote:
>
> > Actually, Al was hired as an Apple Fellow in 1985. His first project was
> > "Trojan" a 68000 mac on an ISA card that mixed EGA and square pixel Mac
> > video. I was the Mac-side programmer on the project. Marketing killed it
> >
Actually, Al was hired as an Apple Fellow in 1985. His first project was
"Trojan" a 68000 mac on an ISA card that mixed EGA and square pixel Mac
video. I was the Mac-side programmer on the project. Marketing killed it
before it got from ATG to product development.
That is wild! That would
That would be Aquarius.
https://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2019/12/and-now-for-something-completely_29.html
http://intellivisionrevolution.com/files/resized/220082/811;384;6ada4a1cae75747bd8ee4a63b1e0e94b12f0592d.jpg
:-)
--
: Ethan O'Toole
On 6/14/20 9:36 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
He didn't know of anyone doing much other with it either.__ I think it was
bought before there was a unix type OS under the Macos.
https://wiki.c2.com/?AppleCrayComputer
They bought it to use to design the next Macintosh CPU I thought
Starting in 1987, future Mac product circuitry and VLSI designs were run on
a Cray X-MP/48 for hardware and software simulations under Unicos Cray’s
licensed version of Unix System V: Apple was the first company that Cray
allowed to access their Network Systems Corporation (Minneapolis) developed
> > He didn't know of anyone doing much other with it either.__ I think it was
> > bought before there was a unix type OS under the Macos.
>
> https://wiki.c2.com/?AppleCrayComputer
>
> They bought it to use to design the next Macintosh CPU I thought
That would be Aquarius.
He didn't know of anyone doing much other with it either. I think it was
bought before there was a unix type OS under the Macos.
thanks
Jim
https://wiki.c2.com/?AppleCrayComputer
They bought it to use to design the next Macintosh CPU I thought (break
away from the 68000 but never did), but
On 6/13/2020 10:28 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 6/13/20 10:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
Do they still have it?
The Y-MP was replaced by a cray-ette in the early 90s
In the end the main use for it was for doing backups
with its tape robot
A friend that worked there when
“Here i am, brain the size of a planet, and i’m controlling a robot that does
tape backups”
That's not uncommon for outdated (mini)supercomputers. Fast network and disk
I/O make them well suited to the task. It's just a shame of all that nice
vector hardware. Convex actively advocated the use
“Here i am, brain the size of a planet, and i’m controlling a robot that does
tape backups”
> On Jun 14, 2020, at 6:28 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 6/13/20 10:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
>> Do they still have it?
>
> The Y-MP was replaced by a cray-ette in the early 90s
On 6/13/20 10:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
Do they still have it?
The Y-MP was replaced by a cray-ette in the early 90s
In the end the main use for it was for doing backups
with its tape robot
On 6/13/2020 12:22 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
Oh, I'll sell you a Cray for like 1/4th that. Much better deal, way
more metal and stuff.
- Ethan
I got a notice from ebay that an Apple 1 is up for sale: $1.5M plus
$1 shipping, yikes!
ebay item number: 174195921349
Doug
Oh, I'll sell you a Cray for like 1/4th that. Much better deal, way more
metal and stuff.
- Ethan
I got a notice from ebay that an Apple 1 is up for sale: $1.5M
plus $1 shipping, yikes!
ebay item number: 174195921349
Doug
--
: Ethan O'Toole
I got a notice from ebay that an Apple 1 is up for sale: $1.5M plus $1
shipping, yikes!
ebay item number: 174195921349
Doug
Tor Arntsen via cctalk writes:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:19, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm
>> often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon
>> which it was fabricated. That has value to
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 06:04, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Be careful about taunting a time traveller.
> He might read what you write and it might give him ideas.
Oh no! Roko's basilisk! You've wok+++ATH
NO CARRIER
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:19, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm
> often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon
> which it was fabricated. That has value to me. Al K has been
> invaluable in this
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two?
Awesomeness.
The Apple I never did very much, so is there really much to actually show
Yes Evan, you mentioned that.
I know; ergo my use of a smiley there...
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:04:38PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> >That is him.
> >I thought that some fun could be made of him: invent some stories
[...]
>
> Be careful about taunting a time traveller.
> He might read what you write and
like to (but no way, no Apple-1 for
us).
Be careful about taunting a time traveller.
He might read what you write and it might give him ideas.
Then you might suddenly find that he has become your grandfather. Or his
own grandfather.
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:02:27PM -0500, John Herron wrote:
> Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to
> be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL.
That is him.
> I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I rem
Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to
be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL.
I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him posting and
calling in to a night time radio show. I didn't follow everything so I
coulda missed something
Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to
be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL.
I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him posting and
calling in to a night time radio show. I didn't follow everything so I
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
wrote:
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
> VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two?
The Apple I never did
can afford
such things. Many of them buy an Apple 1 because they can, not because it's
an investment.
Anyway: we're having at least 10 of 'em at VCF West, did I mention that? :)
To some yuppies, the cost is something to brag about being able to afford.
To the truly wealthy, it is irrelevant
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