Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-12 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 12/01/2017 09:36, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 12:13:05PM +, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 31/12/2016 07:56, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:04:26AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I'll provide examples of some of these. Others can be found online. Here

Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-12 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 12:13:05PM +, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > > On 31/12/2016 07:56, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:04:26AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >>I'll provide examples of some of these. Others can be found online. > >Here are three panels I could easily get

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Charles Dickman wrote: My motivation was for no other reason than to see what the colors looked like on a web page. The page shows what DEC used and that was Munsell and/or Ostwald notation along with one Pantone and a couple paint manufacturers and colors. That is all

Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 12:13:05PM +, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > > On 31/12/2016 07:56, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:04:26AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >>I'll provide examples of some of these. Others can be found online. > >Here are three panels I could easily get

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Charles Dickman
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Fred Cisin <ci...@xenosoft.com> wrote: >> Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB >> equivalent... > > > For printing banner panels, would CMYK be a better fit than sRGB? > Are there no records of what DEC spec

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 2, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Fred Cisin <ci...@xenosoft.com> wrote: > >> Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB equivalent... > > For printing banner panels, would CMYK be a better fit than sRGB? > Are there no records of what DEC specifi

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Cisin
Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB equivalent... For printing banner panels, would CMYK be a better fit than sRGB? Are there no records of what DEC specified to their sub-contractors? I learned the basics half a century ago, with "Color As Seen And Photogr

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 2, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > Here is a site that you can give it RGB and it will give the closest Pantone > > http://rgb.to/0,72,145 Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB equivalent... paul

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Charles Dickman
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Pete Lancashire > > > To convert from Muncell to RGB > > Interesting. For one colour (D.C. Blue), listed on Charles' page as Munsell > 5PB 3/10, that page gives it as 'outside sRGB gamut', whereas the

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Pete Lancashire
Here is a site that you can give it RGB and it will give the closest Pantone http://rgb.to/0,72,145 On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Pete Lancashire > > > To convert from Muncell to RGB > > Interesting. For one colour (D.C. Blue),

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Pete Lancashire > To convert from Muncell to RGB Interesting. For one colour (D.C. Blue), listed on Charles' page as Munsell 5PB 3/10, that page gives it as 'outside sRGB gamut', whereas the page you list gives it as sRGB [0,72,145]. Noel

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 1, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > To convert from Muncell to RGB > > http://www.andrewwerth.com/color/ > > http://www.munsellcolourscienceforpainters.com/ConversionsBetweenMunsellAndsRGBsystems.pdf What would also be interesting is a mapping

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 31/12/2016 03:49, Charles Dickman wrote: Rod, On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Hi Guys I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen shop. A couple of years ago I tried to translate the DEC color

Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 31/12/2016 07:56, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:04:26AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I'll provide examples of some of these. Others can be found online. Here are three panels I could easily get to: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/headers/ /P

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-31 Thread Rod Smallwood
Thats great - that helps no end. Regards Rod On 31/12/2016 07:56, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:04:26AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I'll provide examples of some of these. Others can be found online. Here are three panels I could easily get to:

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-31 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 30/12/2016 22:31, Robert Adamson wrote: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:10:05 +0100 From: Pontus Pihlgren (re http://www.kcg.ac.jp/museum/computer/images/mini_computers/dec/vax11_780.jpg ) Yes, but it is the taller racks. I had only seen the metal header on the PDP-12 and

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:04:26AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > I'll provide examples of some of these. Others can be found online. Here are three panels I could easily get to: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/headers/ /P

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 31/12/2016 04:14, william degnan wrote: You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page, not an exact match to any that you have on your site, but my photos are not color consistent, you'd have to see or scan. From my eye (and I am a web designer who has to match colors for

RE: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Robert Adamson
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:10:05 +0100 > From: Pontus Pihlgren > > (re http://www.kcg.ac.jp/museum/computer/images/mini_computers/dec/vax11_780.jpg ) > > Yes, but it is the taller racks. I had only seen the metal header on > the PDP-12 and our 8/I with earlier lower racks.

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
In a message dated 12/30/2016 10:49:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, c...@chdickman.com writes: On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:21 AM, wrote: > I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chat assignment that DEC > ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Of

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:21 AM, wrote: > I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chat assignment that DEC > ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Of course it would, but the DEC STD 092 available is not specified in PANTONE, If a later version of the

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
(with correction) I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chart assignment that DEC ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Ed# _www.SMECC.org_ (_http://www.SMECC.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/) ) In a message dated 12/30/2016 10:21:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
In a message dated 12/30/2016 9:31:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c...@chdickman.com writes: On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page That's another problem I think, there isn't any

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page That's another problem I think, there isn't any documentation to say what colors a particular scheme used. I think the PDP8/e is amber and terra cotta,

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread william degnan
You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page, not an exact match to any that you have on your site, but my photos are not color consistent, you'd have to see or scan. From my eye (and I am a web designer who has to match colors for living) my actual industrial/11 is

DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
Rod, On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen > shop. A couple of years ago I tried to translate the DEC color standards to RGB based on the colors in the

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 08:54:35PM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > Pontus said: > > 2. Rack type, the earlier shorter racks had metal headers without > >rounded corners (see PDP-8/i). Lowboy racks have a slanted header > >with deeper frame. > > > > 3. Intended market. Lab systems was

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread steven
Pontus said: > 2. Rack type, the earlier shorter racks had metal headers without >rounded corners (see PDP-8/i). Lowboy racks have a slanted header >with deeper frame. > > 3. Intended market. Lab systems was green, industrial was blue/red. (The >PDP-12 was available in orange, blue and

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 07:40:26AM +, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi > The pictures are for reference. I redraw all panels to get the > separations for silk screening. > Rod Ok, I'll try to take som pictures tonight. Also, I'd like to elaborate regarding rack headers and why there are so

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-29 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 30/12/2016 07:20, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 01:04:57AM +, Rod Smallwood wrote: Hi Guys I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen shop. Banner panels 18 1/2 by 3 5/16 silk screened on 1mm Aluminum look to be doable I don't know

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-29 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 01:04:57AM +, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen > shop. > > Banner panels 18 1/2 by 3 5/16 silk screened on 1mm Aluminum look to be > doable > > I don't kn

Banner Panels

2016-12-29 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen shop. Banner panels 18 1/2 by 3 5/16 silk screened on 1mm Aluminum look to be doable I don't know how many different types there were. Regardless of if you need a replacement and you have not sent me