Tor Arntsen via cctalk writes:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:19, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm
>> often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon
>> which it was fabricated. That has value to
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 06:04, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Be careful about taunting a time traveller.
> He might read what you write and it might give him ideas.
Oh no! Roko's basilisk! You've wok+++ATH
NO CARRIER
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:19, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm
> often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon
> which it was fabricated. That has value to me. Al K has been
> invaluable in this
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two?
Awesomeness.
The Apple I never did very much, so is there really much to actually show on
Yes Evan, you mentioned that.
I know; ergo my use of a smiley there...
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:04:38PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> >That is him.
> >I thought that some fun could be made of him: invent some stories
[...]
>
> Be careful about taunting a time traveller.
> He might read what you write and
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
That is him.
I thought that some fun could be made of him: invent some stories
about how he conducts various petty crimes in a past in order to get
hold of many precious classic computers. So that he could easily
retire like some of use would
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:02:27PM -0500, John Herron wrote:
> Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to
> be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL.
That is him.
> I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 1:09 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
Or even how John Titor swindled Apple I
board supposed to be owned by Guy D from under his nose and now sits
on many such boards, retired and sipping pinacolada.
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
Maybe I should
Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to
be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL.
I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him posting and
calling in to a night time radio show. I didn't follow everything so I
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
wrote:
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
> VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two?
The Apple I never did very much,
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote:
The only people growing up today that would pay anything like that amount,
would only pay that much because they expected to make a profit. It is just
an investment.
Don't underestimate the force of "bragging rights" to people who can afford
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Subject: Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West
> The only people growing up today that would pay anything like that amount,
> would only pay that much because they expected to make a profit. It is just
> an investment.
Don't underestimate the force of
The only people growing up today that would pay anything like that amount,
would only pay that much because they expected to make a profit. It is just an
investment.
Don't underestimate the force of "bragging rights" to people who can
afford such things. Many of them buy an Apple 1
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 01:30:36PM -0500, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
> At 01:09 PM 7/8/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> >Now they tell me (bastards!) that said keyboard
> >alone can go for 1000+ euros. And never mind the big box, mem extender
> >and the rest.
>
> What? Why? I must have a
, July 8, 2019 8:10 AM
To: Chuck Guzis; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West
The high price isn’t a Steve Jobs distortion field. The Apple-1 was
collectible in the 1980’s before Jobs became the one we all remember. The
Apple-1
On 7/8/19 9:19 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm
> often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon
> which it was fabricated. That has value to me. Al K has been
> invaluable in this respect.
>
At 01:09 PM 7/8/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
>Now they tell me (bastards!) that said keyboard
>alone can go for 1000+ euros. And never mind the big box, mem extender
>and the rest.
What? Why? I must have a few in the warehouse...
- John
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:19:09AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 7/8/19 8:25 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>
> >
> > Spoken like a non-collector. :-)
>
> I suppose that's the root of it. I'm basically a pragmatist. I give
> away old hardware that no longer has any use to me.
The high price isn’t a Steve Jobs distortion field. The Apple-1 was
collectible in the 1980’s before Jobs became the one we all remember. The
Apple-1 was really the 1st collectible personal computer and it was produced in
very limited numbers for a very short time and was tied the grandparent
On 7/8/19 8:25 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>
> Spoken like a non-collector. :-)
I suppose that's the root of it. I'm basically a pragmatist. I give
away old hardware that no longer has any use to me. When I am
eventually forced to downsize, (or my widow is) most of the stuff will
go
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 17:02, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Practically speaking, what's the difference between a close working
> replica and the original? Are the bits somehow imbued with some
> additional spiritual property?
>
> The replica may actually be more reliable.
Spoken like a
On 7/8/19 7:43 AM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
>> Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures. A
>> reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures.
>> A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150
>
> No idea why people would go 5 figures on a
Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures. A
reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures.
A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150
No idea why people would go 5 figures on a replica that is still a
replica?
The only reason for the
Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures. A
reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures.
A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150
Cheers,
Corey
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> On Jul 5, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Evan
> From: Evan Koblentz
> what the owners plan to do in the future.
Sell the Apple I and retire to a tropical island on the proceeds, if
they have any sense! :-)
Noel
Guy said
> I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple
> I, and what that mistake cost me.
>
> http://everist.org/NobLog/20181001_missing_wave.htm
You mention you were not aware of any EPROM programmer boards for the Apple ][.
I had one for my taiwanese FORMOSA
On 7/6/2019 7:59 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Not many collectors back when the Apple1 came out!
While the CHEAP 6502 is remembered with the Apple
we must not forget that the 16 pin 4K dram really made that computer
work. Regardless of the architecture, 32 KB is needed to do
any useful
Not many collectors back when the Apple1 came out!
Not sure either if many understood what that single board computer would
birth in the way of a line of follow ons.
Sometimes the future is not known!
Ed#
In a message dated 7/6/2019 6:51:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
On 7/6/2019 1:12 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
At 08:21 PM 5/07/2019 -0400, you wrote:
You could be sitting on $400K-$1,000,000. That's the current range of
decent-condition Apple 1 boards.
I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple I,
and what that
On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 09:12, Guy Dunphy via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple
> I, and what that mistake cost me.
>
> http://everist.org/NobLog/20181001_missing_wave.htm
Sad reading...
--
Liam Proven - Profile:
At 08:21 PM 5/07/2019 -0400, you wrote:
>You could be sitting on $400K-$1,000,000. That's the current range of
>decent-condition Apple 1 boards.
I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple I,
and what that mistake cost me.
What are the replicas gong for Evan?
A perfect reproduction -- for example a Mimeo will entirely
date-code-correct components -- can go for four figures.
Most repros/replicas aren't at that level.
real or replica?
Real! That's the whole point.
we might like a replica for display..oddly though with the thousands of
piles of boards heck we may even have a real one... never bothered to look for
one in the STUFF!
My classic mode is if I do not know what it is put it in a box
When do you ever get a photo op with a bunch of apple 1 systems (which
I hope is a thing).
Definitely!
I thought the subject was a typo until I saw the sender lol
:)
Time to start sorting boards!Although... I am not sure if I will live
long enough to get though all of it...
What are the replicas gong for Evan?
Ed#
In a message dated 7/5/2019 5:21:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cct...@snarc.net writes:
> real or replica?
Real! That's the
real or replica?
we might like a replica for display..oddly though with the thousands of
piles of boards heck we may even have a real one... never bothered to look for
one in the STUFF!
My classic mode is if I do not know what it is put it in a box and look at
later...and that stuff goes
That is amazing. When do you ever get a photo op with a bunch of apple 1
systems (which I hope is a thing).
I thought the subject was a typo until I saw the sender lol
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 4:27 PM Evan Koblentz via cctalk
wrote:
> Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be
displayed at VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Several of
these will be up-and-running. Original and current owners will join
early Apple employees in a panel to discuss the computers, why they were
purchased, how they
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