On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 at 21:18, brian--- via cctalk wrote:
>
> >
> > The one I haven't found yet is:
>
> f29bdg00.boo
>
>
> The Google suggests:
> http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Common_User_Access
> which has working links to f29al000.boo and f29bdg00.boo on IBM servers
Well spotted.
If I was
>
> Someone in IBM must know, I suppose.
More likely, someone in IBM must have known.
But I would hazard a guess that almost everyone who had direct internal
knowledge of DCF, GML/Bookmaster, and the BOO format has already retired.
Charles Goldfarb was born in 1939
brian
> On 14 Dec 2023, at 08:18, brian--- via cctalk wrote:
-8<—-
> I've done a lot of work converting technical documentation archives from
> DCF and Bookmaster to Word and XML, but always worked from source, never
> .BOO.
A quick search suggests both Bookmaster and DCF use a library called GDDM
>
> The one I haven't found yet is:
f29bdg00.boo
The Google suggests:
http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Common_User_Access
which has working links to f29al000.boo and f29bdg00.boo on IBM servers
I've done a lot of work converting technical documentation archives from
DCF and Bookmaster to Word and
On 3/2/22 12:46, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Mar 2, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk
wrote:
On Tuesday (03/01/2022 at 04:36PM -0800), Marc Howard via cctech wrote:
I've got a PDP 11/34 I've never opened up. It's mounted in a H9642
cabinet. I can't get the bloody thing
> On Mar 2, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday (03/01/2022 at 04:36PM -0800), Marc Howard via cctech wrote:
>> I've got a PDP 11/34 I've never opened up. It's mounted in a H9642
>> cabinet. I can't get the bloody thing to extend on the chassis track
>>
On Tuesday (03/01/2022 at 04:36PM -0800), Marc Howard via cctech wrote:
> I've got a PDP 11/34 I've never opened up. It's mounted in a H9642
> cabinet. I can't get the bloody thing to extend on the chassis track
> slides.
>
> Is there a catch or lock screw on this unit?
Mine (and we may be
assembling.
Others may have alternative lubrication recommendations.
-Original Message-
From: cctech On Behalf Of Marc Howard via cctech
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:37 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: While on the subject of cabinets...
I've got a
> Back in the bad old days of the 5160 PC, some DTC controllers allowed for
> partitioning a drive (using witch settings)
I think "witch settings" is my new preferred term for this. They're
certainly mysterious and arcane enough.
Subject: Re: PDP-11/73 boot issues
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On 6/25/21 3:31 AM, Kelly Fergason via cctalk wrote:
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 4:54 AM, Gordon Henderson via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.6502.org/source/interpreters/sweet16.htm#When_is_an_RTS_really_a_JSR_
>>
>> I initialiy used this "trick" in my own little bytecode VM but it's somewhat
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 4:54 AM, Gordon Henderson via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2021, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
>
>>> On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 13:36 -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>>> Typical FORTH implementations are neat in that respect, since they
>>> use a threaded code
On Wed, 23 Jun 2021, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 13:36 -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Typical FORTH implementations are neat in that respect, since they
use a threaded code encoding that allows for fast and efficient
switching between threaded code (subroutine
> On Jun 24, 2021, at 1:02 AM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 2021-06-23 6:48 p.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> Somewhat related to the point of compiling and executing mixed together is a
>> very strange hack I saw in the Electrologica assembler for the X8 (the
>> company issue one, not
On 2021-06-23 6:48 p.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Somewhat related to the point of compiling and executing mixed together is a very strange hack I saw in the
Electrologica assembler for the X8 (the company issue one, not one of the various ones built at various labs
for that machine). It
On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 20:48 -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> In other words, you can assemble some code, execute it, then go back
> to assembling the rest of the source text. Cute. Suppose you want
> to do something too hard for macros; just assemble its input data,
> followed by some code
Somewhat related to the point of compiling and executing mixed together is a
very strange hack I saw in the Electrologica assembler for the X8 (the company
issue one, not one of the various ones built at various labs for that machine).
It is essentially a "load and go" assembler, so the code
On 6/23/21 2:18 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> I meant "reduce to machine language" (give or take threaded code or library
> function calls). It really doesn't seem to be any particular problem.
> There's nothing about compilers that prevents them from being invoked in the
> middle of an
uld be
).
Dwight
From: cctalk on behalf of Van Snyder via cctalk
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:42 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: On compiling. (Was a way off topic subject)
On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 13:36 -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> T
> On Jun 23, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> On 6/23/21 1:14 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> I don't remember the details at this point, but I assume the "execute TECO
>> macro" operation in the Stevens PDP-10 TECO compiler is done in that way.
>> And of course these could keep the
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:42:22AM -0700, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> I have a vague recollection of a story about a FORTH processor that put
> the addresses of the functions to be executed on the return-address stack
> (68000?) and then executed a RETURN instruction.
I was initially
On 6/23/21 1:14 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
> I don't remember the details at this point, but I assume the "execute TECO
> macro" operation in the Stevens PDP-10 TECO compiler is done in that way.
> And of course these could keep the compiled code around to reuse if the
> source string hasn't
> On Jun 23, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> There are the languages that are otherwise nearly impossible to compile.
>
> Consider SNOBOL4 (although there is a compiled version called SPITBOL,
> but without several hard-to-implement features). One can construct
>
There are the languages that are otherwise nearly impossible to compile.
Consider SNOBOL4 (although there is a compiled version called SPITBOL,
but without several hard-to-implement features). One can construct
statements at run time and execute them. A bit unusual back then, but
not so much
On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 13:36 -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> Typical FORTH implementations are neat in that respect, since they
> use a threaded code encoding that allows for fast and efficient
> switching between threaded code (subroutine calls) and straight
> machine code.
I have a vague
> On Jun 23, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Stan Sieler via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Paul K got it right:
> "Any language can be interpreted or compiled. For some languages, like
> LISP and TECO, interpreting is a rather natural implementation techniques,
> while for others (C, ALGOL) compilation is the
Paul K got it right:
"Any language can be interpreted or compiled. For some languages, like
LISP and TECO, interpreting is a rather natural implementation techniques,
while for others (C, ALGOL) compilation is the obvious answer. But either
is possible."
A few quick notes...
Back around 1973,
> From: Peter Van Peborgh
> From: Antonio Carlini
> From: Jim Stephens
Everyone: please DO NOT send messsages to CCTalk/CCTech with no Subject: line
in the header: that results in un-linked, and thus un-clickable, entries in
the archive (which some of, like me, use to read
Guys,
Anyone interested in my eBay posted punched card selection?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/mys/active
Thanks,
Peter vp
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:06:30PM +0100, Tomas By wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:40:03 +0100, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> > > Can you devise a way to have [CCTALK] in the subject of every
> > > message that does NOT mention politics?
> >
> > I have rea
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:40:03 +0100, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> > Can you devise a way to have [CCTALK] in the subject of every
> > message that does NOT mention politics?
>
> I have read recent polit-thread with a kind of amusement. I am still
> subscribed to Python prog
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:40:11PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> >>In that case, perhaps there could be a special dispensation,
> >>that messages that mention politics don't need a subject line?
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
> >Maybe the list c
Can you devise a way to have [CCTALK] in the subject of every message that
does NOT mention politics?
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
If you did [CCT] then it would be shorter and more actual subject meat would
fit on my terminal in my mail client.
That would be GOOD!
I don't think
Can you devise a way to have [CCTALK] in the subject of every message that
does NOT mention politics?
If you did [CCT] then it would be shorter and more actual subject meat
would fit on my terminal in my mail client.
I don't think I recall political discussion on this list
In that case, perhaps there could be a special dispensation, that messages
that mention politics don't need a subject line?
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
Maybe the list could at something like (cct) in front of all subject
lines
That was discussed long ago. The majority
In that case, perhaps there could be a special dispensation, that messages
that mention politics don't need a subject line?
Maybe the list could at something like (cct) in front of all subject
lines
- Ethan
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
Please make sure your messages to CCTalk have a Subject: line, otherwise
they end up being 'un-clickable' in the archive, like this:
http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2020-February/date.html
It's possible to hand-edit the URL's to see
sorry about that, not intentional.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:22 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Please make sure your messages to CCTalk have a Subject: line, otherwise
> they end up being 'un-clickable' in the archive, like this:
>
> http://
Please make sure your messages to CCTalk have a Subject: line, otherwise
they end up being 'un-clickable' in the archive, like this:
http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2020-February/date.html
It's possible to hand-edit the URL's to see them, but it's a PITA!
Noel
Looking for a DECMATE (VT-278 model) RX278 Floppy Drive Interface Connector
cable, part number is RC26N-2L It's a 37 male-25 pin male cable.
Here is photo I took of one (not mine)
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/digital/DECmate/DECMATE_VT278_PortsDriveCable.jpg
I have the pinouts for the 37-pin
> From: Joe Zatarski joezatarski at gmail.com
> The posts you mentioned were sent to cctech. .. that list is
> moderated .. You'll notice these posts are now in both archives.
Ah, that could be it. I thought I'd found them in the Subject: thread
archive at the
Noel said
> I'm not sure what happened, but I note the next post had no Subject: line,
> and I'm wondering if that caused it. So best to make sure your posts have
> Subject: lines.
>
> Noel
When I posted the bit about the 360 + car photo the other day, I had a subject
l
mail/cctalk/2019-June/048095.html
> http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/048097.html
>
> I'm not sure what happened, but I note the next post had no Subject: line,
> and I'm wondering if that caused it. So best to make sure your posts have
> Subject: lines.
>
&g
On 6/17/2019 1:18 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
So, a couple of posts yesterday did not show up in the date archive:
http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2019-June/date.html
which is how I read the list. They are:
And now I know why your posts always break the threading in
l
>
> I'm not sure what happened, but I note the next post had no Subject: line,
> and I'm wondering if that caused it. So best to make sure your posts have
> Subject: lines.
>
> Noel
This is a function of the way the two lists work, I think. The posts you
mentioned were sent to cct
no Subject: line,
and I'm wondering if that caused it. So best to make sure your posts have
Subject: lines.
Noel
> From: Lawrence Wilkinson
> Nothing to report other than what's at https://ibms360.co.uk
Any partial results in trying to figure out a way to get all the
stuff back from Nuremberg?
You all may wind up having to rent a large truck yourselves, alas...
Noel
Looks like the recent recovery in Germany had a precedent. These two happy guys
have lugged their 360 out of the
building BUT look at the extra they snagged with theirs, and in great condition
too!
@classiccmp.org; a...@bitsavers.org
Subject: Re: Telex 20 Meg 10 platter very heavy monster drive needed drop line
off list..r
Thanks Al yes, that is the one.
and as I recall ISS was a offshoot on univac Do you have any?
Thanks Ed#
In a message dated 4/22/2019 11:34:58 AM US Mountain
Hi Peter,
Bitsavers has an example for each of 16 & 32 bit Eclipse:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dg/eclipse/014-50-00_Eclipse_WCS_microPgmg_Nov74.pdf
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dg/mv1/014-701003_MV1_microgramming_May83.pdf
Did you work in this area much yourself?
Rgds Evan
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
cussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: ultrasonic cleaning for disk heads
> Message-ID: <9f2c2ac7-1b35-46f5-bd92-cc3dfd29f...@fritzm.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I watched with great interes
My first FPGA-Elf (2009) used an FPGA board that is long-since obsolete,
and while I updated it last year, it used an FPGA board that was not
commercially available, and would have been frighteningly expensive if it
was. For the most recent RetroChallenge, I updated the FPGA-Elf to work on
a
Gj
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cameron Kaiser <spec...@floodgap.com>
To: bill.gunshan...@hotmail.com, cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle - Firsts
Message-ID: <20170915.v8fmmw5r7405...@floodgap.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On 09/11/2017 07:28 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
> Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a
> MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING. As a historian is it worth
> the aggravation to please everyone? Does revisionism take away the
> honour(Cdn. Here!) Jerry
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a
>> MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING.
>
> It is EMPHASIS of individual words and phrases.
> THIS IS SHOUTING! FIGURE OUT THE
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a
MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING.
It is EMPHASIS of individual words and phrases.
THIS IS SHOUTING! FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE!
As a historian is it worth the
Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a
MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING. As a historian is it worth
the aggravation to please everyone? Does revisionism take away the
honour(Cdn. Here!) Jerry Pournelle rightly deserves for pioneering
work in our beloved computing
<flash...@flying-disk.com>
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: DEC TRAX documentation set for sale
Message-ID: <595e9ba7.80...@flying-disk.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Since it is doubtful that I will ever have a need for them,
and I badly need the
"Fan belts only exist, briefly, in the intervals between stars
Reviewing the informative Turing’s Cathedral
Programming the ENIAC, the world's first digital computer (US Army photo)
Book review
It's a full four years since it was published, but Reg contributor
Geoffrey G Rochat has finally
Rich Alderson wrote:
> Actually, Mr. Cook, the standard for the last 35 years or so has been to
> change the subject line, with the old subject in SQUARE BRACKETS with the
> characters "was: " prepended. Any decent newsreader or threading mail
> reader knows how to deal wi
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Wow, I really (bleeped) that one! Subject line indeed should have been "CP/M
code in DOS" not the opposite. Sorry. :)
Then my entire time travel hypothesis is for naught.
other with Star Trek and Star Wars somewhere
in the vicinity. :) Take care my friends.
Wow, I really (bleeped) that one! Subject line indeed should have been
"CP/M code in DOS" not the opposite. Sorry. :)
The SYSVMR.CMD shows that the Indirect Command Processor is named ICP.TSK.
Sadly, ICP.TSK is one of the four tasks that have read issues...
I need another info: BAD is destructive or not destructive?
Thsnks!
Il giorno gio, 31/03/2016 alle 05.57 -0500, Mark Matlock ha scritto:
> The …AT. indirect command task will be found in LB:[3,54] and there are three
> versions of it (ICM.TSK, ICMFSL.TSK, and ICMRES.TSK) if this is a RSX11M+
> system. This is the task image that is failing to load is probably
>
;> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org [cctalk@classiccmp.org]
>> Subject: RSX-11 trouble
>>
>> Hi!
>> Got a MicroPDP 11 plus.
>> It seems to be misconfigured.
>> It can't execute .CMD files, reporting
>> Task "...AT." terminated
>> Load failure
Been AFK and out of town for a week and just catching up on all my email
messages.
I'm on a couple of emailing list where the modified subject header is an issue
of contention. Not sure why, but the square bracket header thing sure helps me.
Everyone else just does this by default.
My
OR UC ONLY BEEHIVE TERMINAL!
NOTHING LIKE 'RIDIN THE 'HIVE AT MIDNITE!
In a message dated 11/18/2015 4:24:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes:
> > COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
> > CC-
>
> SOMEONE SUGGESTING THIS AND USING
On 11/18/2015 04:05 AM, simon wrote:
Hello all,
unfortunately a lot of people *hate* things already. As I
am subscribed to a lot of lists (about 10), this is the
only one not using a [header] in the subject lines.
I use Thunderbird, and the filter is set for :
To: contains cctalk
> > COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
> > CC-
>
> SOMEONE SUGGESTING THIS AND USING CAPITALS ONLY PROVES TO BE A MAIL NOOB
> ;-)
Or is using a Model 33 ASR (or KSR) :-)
-tony
nothing a simple script on the connected computer can't fix though...
On 18-11-15 12:48, John Many Jars wrote:
On 18 November 2015 at 11:14, tony duell wrote:
COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
CC-
SOMEONE SUGGESTING THIS AND USING
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:22 AM, simon wrote:
> nothing a simple script on the connected computer can't fix though...
>
>
\\The \\Multics card reader job control handler maps uppercase to lowercase
(many of the keypunch machines did uppercase only). \\You indicated
uppercase with
On 2015-11-17 21:32, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Al Kossow wrote:
Yes, they were two separate lists at one point, then someone decided
to start forwarding messages between the two, and other people started
posting replies to the wrong list. All of the replies to the post
about the
good point Ethan that is one of the main reasons as if it has a list
designator I would defiantly look at it then.Ed#
Tue, 17 Nov 2015, et...@757.org wrote:
> By any chance could someone configure the mailing list to add or [cc]
or
> [cct] into the beginning of the subjec
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, et...@757.org wrote:
By any chance could someone configure the mailing list to add or [cc] or
[cct] into the beginning of the subject line? Not looking to filter, just not
looking to delete messages.
I *hate* modified subject lines, and I *hate* subjects that don't match
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
good point Ethan that is one of the main reasons as if it has a list
designator I would defiantly look at it then.Ed#
Did you mean "DEFINITELY"?
We've seen enough DEFIANCE
On 11/17/2015 08:56 PM, Jay West wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
DO NOT THINK I CAN MAKE THE AOL MAIL FILTER THAT WAY..
Shark Jumped
Aae!!!
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
--- CompTIA A+ Certified IT Tech
>
>
Why not just put a filter into your mail server or software to look for a
cctalk-unique marker and simply append CCTALK to the subject? I have not
followed every message in this thread, but it's pretty easy to append text
using a content filter, at least for me and the set up I have.
--
Bill
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Jay West wrote:
Ed# wrote...
COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
CC-
No.
How about [CC] prefixed by a Copyright symbol so we can streamline and
process two arguments at once? :D
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05:13AM +0100, simon wrote:
> As I am subscribed to a lot of lists (about 10), this is the only one not
> using a [header] in the subject lines.
That's not a lot of lists. I'm subscribed to a few hundred. Checking my
sieve filter I'm currently filtering 255
ed on addressing, but sorting based on a
consistent tag in the subject line may be more reliable.
There is one reliable header:
List-Id: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Just use that and you'll be fine... No Subject prefixing needed at
all.
I use it for grouping
On 11/17/15 7:54 AM, et...@757.org wrote:
Hello,
By any chance could someone configure the mailing list to add [cctalk] or
[cc] or [cct] into the beginning of the subject line?
If you do this, please do the same for cctech, and make sure messages go out
from the correct source on cross
Ed# wrote...
COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
CC-
No.
On 17/11/2015 21:37, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
CC-
Please not. That could so easily be confused with other things. If you
must add a prefix -- and my strong preference is not to -- then follow
the convention of square brackets.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Al Kossow wrote:
Yes, they were two separate lists at one point, then someone decided to
start forwarding messages between the two, and other people started
posting replies to the wrong list. All of the replies to the post about
the collection being given away was from
On 11/17/15 11:46 AM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
What gets duplicated? Are you subscribed to both -talk and -tech at one
time?
Yes, they were two separate lists at one point, then someone decided to start
forwarding messages between the two, and other people started posting replies
to the
On 18/11/2015 00:32, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015, Pete Turnbull wrote:
(Sorry, Jay, I know you already put a lot of effort in and don't have
time for this :-))
Could we just agree to let Jay make the decisions on such trivia?
Yes :-)
--
Pete
Pete Turnbull
how about cc-squawk
... runs
COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
CC-
In a message dated 11/17/2015 1:41:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
jw...@classiccmp.org writes:
Ah, one of the top ten topics that keeps resurfacing periodically.
I initially suggested adding the list name to the subject
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