Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-25 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk
Dear Jim, Please see my response inline... On 25/01/2019 23:04, Jim Manley wrote: > Hi Andrew, Hi Jim, > If it’s any consolation I needed no consolation because I already knew that these machines are going to a good home.  But your message is great to read.  This sounds like an amazing

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-25 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
Hi Andrew, If it’s any consolation, the users of these components will be high school students in an extremely rural area at the lowest level of poverty in the U.S. The students are eager to learn computing and networking principles, and these will provide opportunities for that in spades. The

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-25 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk
Dear Richard, Thank you for replying in such a considered way. Please see below for comments. On 25/01/2019 00:07, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: > All of you have at one time expressed interest in all or part of this > rack full of Alphaservers and one of you even talked about driving a

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-25 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: I also know I think other have their dibs in first.  But if they wash out... Thanks John, I will keep you in mind. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV: "...underneath those tuques we wear, Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-24 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 1/24/2019 6:07 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: Gentemen, All of you have at one time expressed interest in all or part of this rack full of Alphaservers and one of you even talked about driving a truck up from Montana and taking it all home. Are any of you still interested? First

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-24 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, Jim Manley wrote: I've got everything lined up to do a full pickup, except the timing. It will have to be next Saturday, 2/2, or preferably 2/9, but I appreciate that the owner has waited this long. The only potential bugaboo could be the weather, but the cycle seems to

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-24 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
Hi Richard, I've got everything lined up to do a full pickup, except the timing. It will have to be next Saturday, 2/2, or preferably 2/9, but I appreciate that the owner has waited this long. The only potential bugaboo could be the weather, but the cycle seems to be favorable at the moment.

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2019-01-24 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
Gentemen, All of you have at one time expressed interest in all or part of this rack full of Alphaservers and one of you even talked about driving a truck up from Montana and taking it all home. Are any of you still interested? First priority goes to anybody willing to come up here and pick up

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-21 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: > > I also know that the DS20 mother boards had hardware on them such as USB > controllers and maybe SCSI controllers that were not supported by either > OS. > I recall having a retired DS20 doing light duties back at the office. It used to

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:01 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/18/2018 11:55 AM, Zane Healy wrote: >> My main box is now a Compaq XP1000/667, though I’m slowly moving everything >> to a virtualized cluster. > > Will you please share details about what you're hosting your

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/18/2018 11:55 AM, Zane Healy wrote: My main box is now a Compaq XP1000/667, though I’m slowly moving everything to a virtualized cluster. Will you please share details about what you're hosting your virtualized cluster on? Please include emulator and / or hypervisor. -- Grant. . .

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 18, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/18/2018 10:28 AM, Zane Healy wrote: >> On Alpha’s, the SRM console supports both OpenVMS and Tru64, while the ARC >> firmware only supports WinNT. > > Wasn't it possible to switch between ARC and SRM on many Alphas?

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/18/2018 10:28 AM, Zane Healy wrote: On Alpha’s, the SRM console supports both OpenVMS and Tru64, while the ARC firmware only supports WinNT. Wasn't it possible to switch between ARC and SRM on many Alphas? As in to overwrite one firmware with the other? -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: Not to start a flame war, but I?m well aware VMS supports clustering pretty well, so I?m puzzled - does anyone know why the Product Description called out Tru64 rather than VMS or both? Was Compaq de-emphasizing VMS when that was written?

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 18, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/18/2018 09:08 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: >> Not to start a flame war, but I’m well aware VMS supports clustering pretty >> well, so I’m puzzled - does anyone know why the Product Description called >> out

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/18/2018 09:08 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: Not to start a flame war, but I’m well aware VMS supports clustering pretty well, so I’m puzzled - does anyone know why the Product Description called out Tru64 rather than VMS or both? Was Compaq de-emphasizing VMS when that was written?

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-18 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 7:29 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk > wrote: > > I have two ES47 System Building Block Drawers boxes, each with two > 1GHz 21364 EV7 processors, which form a four CPU ES47 Model 4 when the > two boxes are connected via the interprocessor hose cables. I didn't > have any issues

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk
Dear Richard, As soon as I saw this message my heart skipped a few beats, merely at the _possibility_ that I might be able to share in some of this hardware. I have been fascinated by my first HP AlphaServer DS15, ever since an acquaintance at the local hackspace kindly gave it to me. Here

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/17/18 4:27 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: >> Anything >> Tru64 Unix does VMS does better. Anything Linux does Tru64 Unix does >> better. >> >> Have I made my bigotry clear? > > Spoken like a true VMS Jackass > >

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Jacob Ritorto wrote: There are contractors who have the hardware to correctly and contractually perform mil spec data wipe in situations like this. More thorough than leaving sitting on some shelf and crossing fingers that one will find time to burn them or whatever. I

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Jacob Ritorto via cctalk
There are contractors who have the hardware to correctly and contractually perform mil spec data wipe in situations like this. More thorough than leaving sitting on some shelf and crossing fingers that one will find time to burn them or whatever. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 6:02 PM Richard Loken via

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/17/18 5:27 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: Anything Tru64 Unix does VMS does better. Anything Linux does Tru64 Unix does better. If that's true, then I would expect Tru64 to have better support of modern cryptographic ciphers than Linux. Carrying your analogy further, I'd expect

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 3:45 PM Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: > > I hope hard enough that this cluster gets saved that if no-one else comes > forward, I’d like to be notified….I’m not certain what I could arrange, but > the thought of running my own personal Alpha supercomputer … wow. Not sure

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk
Dear Richard, As soon as I saw this message my heart skipped a few beats, merely at the _possibility_ that I might be able to share in some of this hardware. I have been fascinated by my first HP AlphaServer DS15, ever since an acquaintance at the local hackspace kindly gave it to me. Here

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/17/18 4:27 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: > Anything > Tru64 Unix does VMS does better.  Anything Linux does Tru64 Unix does > better. > > Have I made my bigotry clear? > Spoken like a true VMS Jackass Some things stay constant over the DECades

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: Wikipedia reports there is some variability in ES45 models, including number of CPU and amount of memory. Any idea what model/spec these are? If I recall correctly the ES45s each have 2 CPUs. The three ES45s are not intentical, the one that

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 12/17/2018 04:02 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: I have immediate access to four Alphaservers, an RA8000 raid server, and the associated fibre switches in need of a new home. Where are the servers located? Are they in Athabasca,

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/17/2018 04:45 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: I hope hard enough that this cluster gets saved that if no-one else comes forward, I’d like to be notified….I’m not certain what I could arrange, but the thought of running my own personal Alpha supercomputer … wow. Agreed. Not sure how

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/17/2018 04:02 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: >> I have immediate access to four Alphaservers, an RA8000 raid server, and the >> associated fibre switches in need of a new home. > > Where are the servers located?

Re: Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/17/2018 04:02 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote: I have immediate access to four Alphaservers, an RA8000 raid server, and the associated fibre switches in need of a new home. Where are the servers located? Are they in Athabasca, Alberta Canada near you? There three servers that were

Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

2018-12-17 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
Ladies and gentlemen, I have immediate access to four Alphaservers, an RA8000 raid server, and the associated fibre switches in need of a new home. There three servers that were running Tru64 Unix 5 when shut down a week ago, they are a DS15, and two ES45s. There is also a third ES45 which has