Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/13/19 7:10 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > Be careful handing out the praise. The idea of adding a external > signals and biases to crystal detectors was an old trick from the > 1920s. No one really knew what was going on, and no one really used > this technology, simply because

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-13 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> > This is a bit interesting in that Brattain, Bardeen and Shockley are > > credited in the popular press as having invented the transistor. > > However, that was a bit overstated; they had to re-word their patent > > application to state that they'd developed a "junction" transistor, when > > a

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 13, 2019, at 12:02 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > This is a bit interesting in that Brattain, Bardeen and Shockley are > credited in the popular press as having invented the transistor. > However, that was a bit overstated; they had to re-word their patent >

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/12/19 5:59 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > That needed to say Half Word. The point I was making was you went > down from 36 bits to 32 bits and that loss of word size made > everything follow a similar architecture model between different > computer manufactures as there is only a few ways to

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/12/19 5:23 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Mar 12, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> ... I’ve written in my book on the History of the Microcomputer a >> history of the processing chip as the timeline follows an >> approximation of: >> >> Late

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 03/12/2019 07:23 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Mar 12, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: ... I’ve written in my book on the History of the Microcomputer a history of the processing chip as the timeline follows an approximation of: Late *1950*s – patent on

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-12 Thread ben via cctalk
On 3/11/2019 10:29 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/11/2019 02:35 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: IBM 360 32 bits 16 word reg file - 16 bit word. While some 360 models had a hardware architecture of 8, 16, or even 64 bits, all of the 360s (except the model 20, which was not really a 360) had 16 32-bit

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-12 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 12, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > I’ve written in my book on the History of the Microcomputer a history of > the processing chip as the timeline follows an approximation of: > > Late *1950*s – patent on integrated circuit by Texas Instruments >

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-12 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
Thanks for the info on chip made by Texas Instruments. It was used in a pocket/plug-in calculator I had while working as a payroll clerk back in the early 70s. The link is: http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/ti_cal-tech1.html I’ve written in my book on the History of the Microcomputer a

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 11, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Robert Feldman via cctalk > wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 17:18:26 -0400 >> From: Murray McCullough > > >> Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas >> Instruments > > Merryman died on February 27. > > From the New York

RE: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Robert Feldman via cctalk
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 17:18:26 -0400 >From: Murray McCullough >Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas >Instruments Merryman died on February 27. >From the New York Times (March 7, 2019): Jerry Merryman, Co-Inventor of the Pocket Calculator, Dies at 86

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 03/11/2019 02:35 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: IBM 360 32 bits 16 word reg file - 16 bit word. While some 360 models had a hardware architecture of 8, 16, or even 64 bits, all of the 360s (except the model 20, which was not really a 360) had 16 32-bit registers as the program saw it. Jon

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread allison via cctalk
On 03/11/2019 04:49 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > On 2019-Mar-10, at 3:59 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: >>> On 3/10/2019 3:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas Instruments created an integrated circuit

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread dwight via cctalk
From: cctalk on behalf of Noel Chiappa via cctalk Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 7:09 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Pioneers of computing > From: Brent Hilpert >>> Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merrym

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Brent Hilpert >>> Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas >>> Instruments created an integrated circuit designed to replace the >>> calulator. Historians, though not all, credit this development as the >>> beginning of the

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Michael Mulhern via cctalk
Talking of calculators, my first full time job was selling HP calculators and Apple computers which was appropriate, but not necessary for my second full time job as a calculator. Yes my job title was calculator, where I did actuarial calculations on insurance products for variations. So I went

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 4:50 AM Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2019-Mar-10, at 5:16 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 3/10/19 2:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > >> Historians, though not all, credit this development as the > >> beginning of the

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2019-Mar-10, at 5:16 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 3/10/19 2:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: >> Historians, though not all, credit this development as the >> beginning of the electronic-computing revolution that was truly underway by >> the mid-70s. > > Scotty, more power to

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2019-Mar-10, at 3:59 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: >> On 3/10/2019 3:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: >>> Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas >>> Instruments created an integrated circuit designed to replace the >>> calulator. Historians, though

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-11 Thread ben via cctalk
On 3/10/2019 9:11 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: I have seen some claims that this was the first microprocessor -- although not a single chip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Air_Data_Computer Will I would say it was JUST too early to count as valid microprocessor. I expect they all

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-10 Thread ben via cctalk
On 3/10/2019 7:30 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: Here is a little bit of info on it: http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/ti_cal-tech1.html That's fascinating, thanks. I'd never heard of it. The Intel 4004 came out in 1971. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004 I'd understood that

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-10 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On March 10, 2019 at 9:30 PM Guy Dunphy wrote: > > > At 06:59 PM 10/03/2019 -0400, you wrote: > > > >> On March 10, 2019 at 6:10 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 3/10/2019 3:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > >> > Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-10 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 06:59 PM 10/03/2019 -0400, you wrote: > >> On March 10, 2019 at 6:10 PM ben via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On 3/10/2019 3:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: >> > Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas >> > Instruments created an integrated circuit designed

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-10 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 3/10/19 2:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > Historians, though not all, credit this development as the > beginning of the electronic-computing revolution that was truly underway by > the mid-70s. Scotty, more power to the Reality Distortion Field!

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-10 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On March 10, 2019 at 6:10 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > > > On 3/10/2019 3:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas > > Instruments created an integrated circuit designed to replace the > > calulator. Historians,

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-10 Thread ben via cctalk
On 3/10/2019 3:18 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas Instruments created an integrated circuit designed to replace the calulator. Historians, though not all, credit this development as the beginning of the

Pioneers of computing

2019-03-10 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
Back in 1965 Jack Kilby, Jerry Merryman and James Van Tassel at texas Instruments created an integrated circuit designed to replace the calulator. Historians, though not all, credit this development as the beginning of the electronic-computing revolution that was truly underway by the mid-70s.