Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
> On Sun, 2 Jul 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> About the best advice I've heard in this respect was "if you're looking >> to assemble a good assortment of hand tools, make an offer for the >> contents of the toolchest to the widow of a recently deceased mechanic." service cases and

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 2 Jul 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: About the best advice I've heard in this respect was "if you're looking to assemble a good assortment of hand tools, make an offer for the contents of the toolchest to the widow of a recently deceased mechanic." Thanks I'm updating my will

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Chris Pye via cctalk
> > It was on a test-bench setup. Part of my job back then was calibrating > the stroke of cylinders to the 3-15 psi control signal. Plant air > (power supply for the cylinder) was around 50 psi, IIRC. Lucky it was just the pliers. Pneumatics can be rather dangerous at that pressure. > >

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Good advice on buying the whole toolchest. Wiha does make excellent drivers and insert bits. Their security bits are top-notch as well -- I ended up buying their general security "bits-selector" set after wasting $5 on one of those Harbor Freight assortments. Thanks, Jonathan On Sun, Jul 2,

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/02/2017 07:36 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: > I'm a little late to this thread but I didn't see anyone mention the Wiha > brand which also have a slim Nut Driver set with a 7/32" bit in the kit. > When I was refurbing a couple model M here, I invested in this Wiha set, I've got a

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/02/2017 09:45 AM, Chris Pye wrote: > Chuck, dare may I ask what you were doing with electricians pliers that close > to a pneumatic cylinder? It was on a test-bench setup. Part of my job back then was calibrating the stroke of cylinders to the 3-15 psi control signal. Plant air (power

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Chris Pye via cctalk
> On 2 Jul 2017, at 4:03 pm, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > I once got a pair of electrician's pliers caught between the yoke and > body of a 6" pneumatic cylinder. Snapped the handles right off, it did. > The local Sears store replaced the pliers without >

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:12 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk > wrote: > > >> >> The quality of tools has declined. It used to be that Sears Roebuck >> "Craftsman" hand tools were among the best and were sold with an >> unconditional warranty. Not so any more. > > The best

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 07/02/2017 01:03 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 07/01/2017 10:27 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: I was told years ago that in general the thinner-wall sockets are better quality -- they have to be made from stronger steel alloy to work at all. Obviously there are exceptions It

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 07/01/2017 10:27 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > >> I was told years ago that in general the thinner-wall sockets are better >> quality -- they have to be made from stronger steel alloy to work at >> all.

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-02 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/01/2017 10:27 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > I was told years ago that in general the thinner-wall sockets are better > quality -- they have to be made from stronger steel alloy to work at > all. Obviously there are exceptions It wouldn't surprise me if some of the cheaper stuff

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-01 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > Anyway, I picked up a cheap 7/32" deep socket from Menards ($3 or so) - and > as it happens, it Just Works without modification. It's not marketed as > thin-walled; I expect they just made it cheap by

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/01/2017 01:23 PM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > It does look like I can get a 7/32" socket for a couple of bucks, though > - so maybe I'll go that route for now and just shave it down a little > with the bench grinder. It can live on the shelf with the homebrew Mac > case dismantling

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-01 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 07/01/2017 02:12 PM, Adam Sampson via cctalk wrote: Jules Richardson via cctalk writes: Google suggests that they might be 7/32", but I'm not sure; that's less of a common size (vs. 3/16" or 1/4", say) - I'm not even sure I could find a driver like that around here.

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-01 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Adam Sampson via cctalk wrote: > Jules Richardson via cctalk writes: > >> Google suggests that they might be 7/32", but I'm not sure; that's >> less of a common size (vs. 3/16" or 1/4", say) - I'm not even sure I >>

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-01 Thread Adam Sampson via cctalk
Jules Richardson via cctalk writes: > Google suggests that they might be 7/32", but I'm not sure; that's > less of a common size (vs. 3/16" or 1/4", say) - I'm not even sure I > could find a driver like that around here. Yes, they're 7/32", but in a narrow hole that means

Re: Model M case screws

2017-07-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/01/2017 09:28 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > Google suggests that they might be 7/32", but I'm not sure; that's less > of a common size (vs. 3/16" or 1/4", say) - I'm not even sure I could > find a driver like that around here. That's exactly what I use--get a decent one; some of