Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-28 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2019-10-28 09:43, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Sun, 27 Oct 2019, nico de jong wrote: Then you could generate turnkey systems, where the "operating system" could be floppy or cassette (ECMA34) based, Turnkey systems typically controlled process equipment and the like, where

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-28 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2019-10-28 09:43, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Sun, 27 Oct 2019, nico de jong wrote: Then you could generate turnkey systems, where the "operating system" could be floppy or cassette (ECMA34) based, Turnkey systems typically controlled process equipment and the like, where

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-28 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2019-10-28 09:37, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2019, nico de jong wrote: As for documentation I have the CPU (only) technical manual for the P850, the 2 volumes of schematics for the P851 and the preliminary manual (alas without the microcode source) for the P854.

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-28 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019, nico de jong wrote: Then you could generate turnkey systems, where the "operating system" could be floppy or cassette (ECMA34) based, Turnkey systems typically controlled process equipment and the like, where operator intervention was very limited, normally limited to

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-28 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019, nico de jong wrote: As for documentation I have the CPU (only) technical manual for the P850, the 2 volumes of schematics for the P851 and the preliminary manual (alas without the microcode source) for the P854. Some other schematics for things like the P854's PSU, the 4

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-28 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
Bedankt Fred Jan, Op XS4ALL vond ik 1 manual die ik nog niet had (VDU). Theo's website had ik al "gemelkt" :-) Bedankt voor de hulp Groeten Nico On 2019-10-27 18:39, Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk wrote: Hi, Some manuals are available at:

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk
Hi, Some manuals are available at: http://electrickery.xs4all.nl/comp/divcomp/doc/index.html There is a simulator (and more manuals) at: http://www.theoengel.nl/P800/p800sim.html Greetings, Fred Jan

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2019-10-27 15:56, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2019, jos wrote: On software side not much : a single cassette with Fortran & manuals. That is also the problem with our P856, I have a single-density FDC with floppy drives but no floppy based operating system.

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019, jos wrote: On software side not much : a single cassette with Fortran & manuals. That is also the problem with our P856, I have a single-density FDC with floppy drives but no floppy based operating system. Christian

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 27, 2019, at 9:15 AM, nico de jong via cctalk > wrote: > > The Honeywell does not look like a P800, and to the best of my knowledge > Philips (with one L) did their own development in the mini sector. > > However, I do know that for example one of their text processing systems,

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 27, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk > wrote: > > The Philips P92xx series was the rebadged x16 stuff. Yes, that's what I understood as well. But others are not. The PR8000 is a quite distinct design; I hope that at some point more documentation will materialize. I

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
The Philips P92xx series was the rebadged x16 stuff. De

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
The Honeywell does not look like a P800, and to the best of my knowledge Philips (with one L) did their own development in the mini sector. However, I do know that for example one of their text processing systems, one in the P5000 range (the P5001?), was a rebadged Canadiann system, Alas, the

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
Yes, I know of Vaxbarn. I have copied many of Camiels manuals, and he has copied a lot of mine. I visited him and his lovely wife a few years ago. Very agreeable people (and nice kids...) I know about the P1000, but I've never seen one "on the flesh". When I started to work for Philips Data

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
Yes, exactly. Do you have the manuals in a mailable version? Cheers Nico On 2019-10-26 21:30, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: mean like this https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x795q90/r/922/b5tczU.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x533q90/r/922/XYBanl.jpg

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2019-10-26 20:13, jos via cctalk wrote: On 26.10.19 11:00, nico de jong via cctech wrote: Hi all, Back in the 70's and 80's Philips had a quite popular series of mini computers called P800, which also branched out to the PTS series and possibly other. Could I be lucky to find other

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2019-10-26 20:01, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 6:53 PM nico de jong via cctalk wrote: In order to test things, I've developped a simulator and assembler for the P857, although without floating point and I/O processor, as I have no documentation for that, so maybe

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-27 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
No, we are not. The P800 series used a card format, the name of which escapes me at the momen, but I believe it started with an M. The only experience with Philips computers, other then the P800 series, is the P2000. It was marketed by Philips Austria, and was a pre-PC system. I believe there

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
phillips when they ventured into the mini world start out by rebadging the honeywell 316 witch i think is what your talking about https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x533q90/r/924/RfzStB.jpg On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 7:38 PM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Oct

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 26, 2019, at 5:00 AM, nico de jong via cctech > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Back in the 70's and 80's Philips had a quite popular series of mini > computers called P800, which also branched out to the PTS series and possibly > other. I don't remember those; I do remember a Philips

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread jos via cctalk
On 26.10.19 11:00, nico de jong via cctech wrote: Hi all, Back in the 70's and 80's Philips had a quite popular series of mini computers called P800, which also branched out to the PTS series and possibly other. Could I be lucky to find other list members interested in these products? I know

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
also helps if u google stuff quik google found this site with lots on the 856m 857 http://www.vaxbarn.com/p800/home.html im more interested in the p1000 series my self actually has one of the 3 sales models built in the 60's for that system but thats a big iron On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 2:30 PM

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
mean like this https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x795q90/r/922/b5tczU.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x533q90/r/922/XYBanl.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1000x186q90/r/922/RCQmCW.jpg

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 6:53 PM nico de jong via cctalk wrote: > In order to test things, I've developped a simulator and assembler for > the P857, although without floating point and I/O processor, as I have > no documentation for that, so maybe I can harvest something from the > documents you

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Are we talking about ISA-bus computers here?  If so the colour graphics card was a Persyst Bob card, and the bi-sync adapter, if equipped, was also made by Persyst.  I know because I signed them to the contract to buy those two items. I know about their high standards of Quality Control

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread nico de jong via cctalk
On 2019-10-26 19:44, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 6:36 PM nico de jong via cctalk wrote: Hi all, Back in the 70's and 80's Philips had a quite popular series of mini computers called P800, which also branched out to the PTS series and possibly other. Could I be

Re: Philips mini computers

2019-10-26 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 6:36 PM nico de jong via cctalk wrote: > > Hi all, > > Back in the 70's and 80's Philips had a quite popular series of mini > computers called P800, which also branched out to the PTS series and > possibly other. > > Could I be lucky to find other list members interested