Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-22 Thread emanuel stiebler
On 2016-08-22 18:26, Ken Seefried wrote: Intel came up with the i82786 around the same time that was cheaper, and it looked like you could cook up a cheap 80186+82786 X Term setup that would be competitive. However, I never saw a product like that, just a couple of PC/AT plugin cards (Belltech

RE: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-22 Thread Ken Seefried
From: tony duell > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: >> >> Before anyone gets too excited about the blistering speed of the 60 >> MHz TMS34010, ... However, since it has a >> graphics-optimized instruction set, it was still able to do some >> things noticeably faster than the

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-21 Thread Jules Richardson
On 08/20/2016 02:48 PM, Mouse wrote: [small pizza-box X terminal] I had a similar unit from NCD, [...] Back in the day I remember using monochrome NCD X terminals though, and those things were just great - it would be nice to find one again one day. I own two NCD X-terminals; if you can dro

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-20 Thread Mouse
>> [small pizza-box X terminal] > I had a similar unit from NCD, [...] > Back in the day I remember using monochrome NCD X terminals though, > and those things were just great - it would be nice to find one again > one day. I own two NCD X-terminals; if you can drop by Ottawa, I wouldn't mind unl

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-20 Thread Jules Richardson
On 08/20/2016 09:06 AM, tony duell wrote: Somewhere I have a thing badged 'Princeton Ultra-X'. This is a pizza-box type slab that goes under a VGA montor and links to a keyboard and mouse and is, of course a standalone Xterminal. It uses an 80188 for I/O (including 10Mbps ethernet). The Xserver

RE: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-20 Thread tony duell
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: > > Models Display Resolution Planes Processor Coprocessor > > -- --- -- -- - --- > > 700/X Grayscale 19" 1024x768 834010/60MHz 80186/16MHz > > 700/X VGA C

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Eric Smith
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: > Models Display Resolution Planes Processor Coprocessor > -- --- -- -- - --- > 700/X Grayscale 19" 1024x768 834010/60MHz 80186/16MHz > 700/X VGA Color 1

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Jerry Kemp
similar story, many lifetimes ago in the mid 1990's (1994-1996). I was supporting a small ISP in a (US side) border town with T1 Internet connectivity. I was dialing in to provide remote support using an HP Vectra running Solaris 2.5 (not 2.5.1 yet :( ) with a US Robotics 28.8 modem. No SSH.

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Steven M Jones
On 08/19/2016 11:08, Chris Hanson wrote: > > Back in the day, did anyone produce an X11 server for DOS-based > 8086/8088 systems, say with support for Hercules or CGA graphics? > Or was that strictly a 286-or-better thing, given the overall > constraints of the 8086 architecture? I realize this pr

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Mouse
> While I wouldn't want to use such a combination over, say, 1200bps dialup, i$ I decided to try this. I just set up a SLIP link between my main desktop head (a SPARCstation-20) and a handy peecee, running at 9600/8/N/1 on each end. I then sshed through the SLIP link to the peecee and started a t

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Glen Slick
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Chris Hanson wrote: >> >> The only thing that comes to mind is DESQview/X, and IIRC, that required a >> minimum of a 386. > > There was plenty more than DESQview/X, and there were X11 servers that ran on > 286. > There was PC DECwindows which ran on a 286 system

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Chris Hanson
On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Zane Healy wrote: > >> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Chris Hanson >> wrote: >> >> Back in the day, did anyone produce an X11 server for DOS-based 8086/8088 >> systems, say with support for Hercules or CGA graphics? Or was that strictly >> a 286-or-better thing, g

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Zane Healy
> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Chris Hanson wrote: > > Back in the day, did anyone produce an X11 server for DOS-based 8086/8088 > systems, say with support for Hercules or CGA graphics? Or was that strictly > a 286-or-better thing, given the overall constraints of the 8086 architecture? > >

Re: X server for original PC (8088/8086)

2016-08-19 Thread Mouse
> (There were plenty of mouse-and-window systems for the PC/XT back then, I ex$ If the serial link runs at a relatively high data rate (eg, 115200) or LBX support is in use and the data rate is at least medium (eg, 19200), probably. If not...well, it depends on how patient you are, I suppose, but