Re: Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-28 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2017-11-28 7:11 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: On 2017-Nov-28, at 2:54 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: I couldn't find the ebay listing for the NCR modem for some reason, either using the number or by searching by keywords.

Re: Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-28 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2017-Nov-28, at 2:54 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: >> I couldn't find the ebay listing for the NCR modem for some reason, either >> using the number or by searching by keywords. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/132411929563 That works .

Re: Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-28 Thread Santo Nucifora via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Thanks for the additional datapoint. > It does suggest Model A production may likely have started in 1968. > Actual date codes in mine were 6908 to 7008. > The larger caps are also a good place to look

Re: Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-28 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2017-Nov-27, at 5:25 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote: > On 11/27/2017 2:26 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: The Livermore Data Systems modems that I sold off were from about 1964? >> >> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: >>> Were those the Livermore Data Systems

Re: Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk
On 11/27/2017 2:26 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: The Livermore Data Systems modems that I sold off were from about 1964? On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: Were those the Livermore Data Systems modems in a wood box you were selling? Did you have anything to ascertain the

Re: Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk
On 11/27/2017 2:26 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: The Livermore Data Systems modems that I sold off were from about 1964? On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: Were those the Livermore Data Systems modems in a wood box you were selling? Did you have anything to ascertain the

Re: Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
The Livermore Data Systems modems that I sold off were from about 1964? On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: Were those the Livermore Data Systems modems in a wood box you were selling? Did you have anything to ascertain the 1964 date for LDS, or were you getting that date

Livermore Data Systems / was Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2017-Nov-26, at 2:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, couryho...@aol.com wrote: >> does the 71 sate seem early? > > No, a 1971 date does not seem too early. > > The price seems steep, even for a "relatively" early modem. > > Bell 103 (300bps) dates from 1962. > The

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 11/27/2017 11:15 AM, Alan Frisbie via cctalk wrote: > > > Back in those days you could not connect anything directly to the > telephone > > lines -- you had to use the telco-supplied DAA (kaching!) or an

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/27/2017 11:15 AM, Alan Frisbie via cctalk wrote: > Back in those days you could not connect anything directly to the telephone > lines -- you had to use the telco-supplied DAA (kaching!) or an acoustic > coupler.   I don't know if this modem can be connected directly to a phone > line

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Ed via cctalk
Tim, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: couryho...@aol.com wrote: > what is this NCR modem? what did it go to? > > NEW Vintage 1971 NCR Acoustic Coupler Modem, NOS, Factory Boxed, C260-400 > / F01 132411929563 on the bay It is a Bell 103A compatible modem (110 or 30

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Alan Frisbie via cctalk
couryho...@aol.com wrote: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to? NEW Vintage 1971 NCR Acoustic Coupler Modem, NOS, Factory Boxed, C260-400 / F01 132411929563 on the bay It is a Bell 103A compatible modem (110 or 300 baud) used with the NCR 260 series of thermal printing

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Ed via cctalk
thanks for dates. yes that all makes sense. some how my mind slipped a decade. I a looking for a GE Diginet tdm-114 acoustic coupler. 2 reasons, GE computer related but also my first acoustic coupler I had with an ASR-35 teletype I am also looking for the top mental

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
does the 71 sate seem early? On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Looking at the modem, perhaps a little too early, judging from its size. Patent date perhaps? 1971 is the copyright date on the "Basic Concepts Manual" with it.

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, couryho...@aol.com wrote: does the 71 sate seem early? No, a 1971 date does not seem too early. The price seems steep, even for a "relatively" early modem. Bell 103 (300bps) dates from 1962. The Bell 101 (110 baud) was 1958. SCROTUS "Carterfone" was 1968 (ruling

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-26 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/26/2017 02:09 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote: > does the 71 sate seem early? Looking at the modem, perhaps a little too early, judging from its size. Patent date perhaps? But 300 baud acoustic coupler modems date into the 1960s. --Chuck

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-26 Thread Ed via cctalk
does the 71 sate seem early? In a message dated 11/26/2017 2:38:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: The NCR 260 (first part of the part number) was a KSR portable thermal printing terminal. Somewhat similar to the Silent 700. But, the NCR 260 had an

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
The NCR 260 (first part of the part number) was a KSR portable thermal printing terminal. Somewhat similar to the Silent 700. But, the NCR 260 had an integrated modem with acoustic coupler

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to? NEW Vintage 1971 NCR Acoustic Coupler Modem, NOS, Factory Boxed, C260-400 / F01 132411929563 on the bay not mine etc etc etc "What did it go to?" It connected a terminal, or computer i

what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-26 Thread Ed via cctalk
what is this NCR modem? what did it go to? NEW Vintage 1971 NCR Acoustic Coupler Modem, NOS, Factory Boxed, C260-400 / F01 132411929563 on the bay not mine etc etc etc ed#