RE: Reading ROMs

On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, Jay West wrote: Marc wrote HP 1000. Not only the standard 24 pin ROMs but the small 14 or 16 pin bootloader ROMs that Jay showed me at VCF. What would be a good ROM programmer that could read and write these of older HP equipment ROMs? --- The Data I/O 29B

Re: OmniUSB - further boards to make

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Sean Caron wrote: > > My dad shops out prototype PCB manufacturing to a firm called Omnitrace ( > http://www.pcb4u.com). He sends them layouts and they send back bare boards > which he stuffs in the lab ... He says the price is the best he's

RE: IBM 1620

On making PC boards, we had a shop mix the top and bottom layers. They tried to tell us it didn't matter but our boards had an edge connector, with different fingers on each side. It was expensive high temperature PC board as well. Dwight

RE: Keys resurfaces

As always, my hosting company will gladly provide hosting services to any classic computing related website at no charge. I'll send him an email offering same. I don't want to offer free web development though, someone else can step up with that work if they wish :)

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

On 9/3/2015 11:50 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 09/03/2015 08:49 PM, dwight wrote: >> A pal could have worked as well. Dwight > > A GAL should also be useful--and maybe a bit more flexible. To emulate > the OC outputs, one can simply manipulate the output enable so that a > '1' output is High-Z

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote: Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk... Thanks to all that haven't answered. You do understand that noone is *required* to help, do you? This message really sends the wrong impression, and rubs me the wrong way... People

raised floor possibly available

A building next door to one of my offices was a datacenter/colo facility. It has sat vacant for quite a few years, and the new owner contacted me yesterday about some unrelated items. I asked about the raised floor and she said "all available, dirt cheap, come over and look". Sometime next

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On 9/3/15 9:58 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: I'm looking into a road trip from Champaign to Maine via Indy, Detroit, Windsor, Niagra Falls, Buffalo or 1000 Islands, Syracuse to Boston area, and up to Maine. Not sure about the return Route. I have talked to a few list members about dropping

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

Yes. ALL the ducks. Several of us have been bounced at the border for trying to bring in larger machines. Basically, if it is something that is not a laptop or PeeCee or normal consumer electronics, expect trouble. It is not 1998 anymore. -- Will On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Al Kossow

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > BTW, I sent my PCBs out to Gold Phoenix PCB - http://www.goldphoenixpcb.com/ I have also used Gold Phoenix PCB with good results (when I need a dozen or more small boards - they do runs of 155 sq in down to about 1"x2". You

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at this point that the drive is dead and there is nothing that can be done to try to fix it.

Keys resurfaces

Saw this in AFC Another water damaged collection heading to the landfill -- Subject: Houston (and everywhere else), we have ... an opportunity From: hlctmi...@gmail.com Injection-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:37:06 + My name is John Keys, and I incorporated the Houston Computer Museum in May=

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

On 2015-09-04 18:19, Glen Slick wrote: I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at this point that the drive is dead and there is

Re: OmniUSB - further boards to make

the SMECC museum is a canadate if ouronmnibus 8 still runs. have not powered it up in 20 years. In a message dated 9/4/2015 1:37:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, space...@gmail.com writes:

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >> The working 150MB RF30 is too small for a useful VMS system although >> it would be a decent size if I set up the system as a PDP-11 with an >> M7554-PB KDJ11-SB CPU instead of the VAX KA640. > > Be aware that no

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

- Original Message - From: "Johnny Billquist" Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote: Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk... Thanks to all that haven't answered. You do understand that

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

Mike Stein wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Johnny Billquist" > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM > > > >On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > > >>Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has > >>ever seen a DSSI disk... > >> > >>Thanks to all

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

> Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a > Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long > conversation with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour day-trip to > the US to pick up a “piece of obsolete junk” unless it had some real

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > >Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk... > > > >Thanks to all that haven't answered. > > You do understand that noone is *required* to help, do you? This message > really sends the wrong

Ongoing debug of RL8A controller

I still can't get my RL8A (M8433 RL01/02 disk controller card) working again in my 8/A system. It won't boot from the RL02 any more. In my backplane I found it to be mechanically sensitive (AJRLAC diskless controller test would show errors always involving bits 4-7 being unexpectedly 0's),

Re: Keys resurfaces

While I've not yet completely forgiven Mr. Keys for swiping a van load of VAX systems (including a bunch of MicroVAX 3100, 4000/VLC, etc) over a decade ago when I had offered him some wide format printers and large monitors, I'm willing to talk to him and see what can be done if others are

RE: Keys resurfaces

I am sorry but I think he is living in airy fairy land if he thinks folks will donate to a 70 year old who is now threatening to chuck stuff away and re-cycle it rather than give others the chance to "make a go" of it with no clear definition of how the money is to be spent. It seems to

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long conversation with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour day-trip to the US to pick up a “piece of obsolete junk” unless it had some real value,

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-09-04 18:19, Glen Slick wrote: > >I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one > >working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have > >copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at > >this point that

Re: Keys resurfaces

> It seems to happen all the time with collectables (I must admit I have a > loft room full, and I don't have anywhere to exhibit) but to me this needs > PEOPLE and then a PLAN and lastly a Kick Starter project to get it > exhibitable, if indeed any of it is exhibit able. I can't see any responses

Re: Keys resurfaces

" I'm 70 years old, and if I can't make a go of this, all that equipment will get recycled or hauled off for scrap or dumped in a landfill. And all of that documentation will go with it." A web page is not the solution to his problem. A new home for his collection is. Lee C. On Fri, Sep 4,

Re: Keys resurfaces

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote: It seems to happen all the time with collectables (I must admit I have a loft room full, and I don't have anywhere to exhibit) but to me this needs PEOPLE and then a PLAN and lastly a Kick Starter project to get it exhibitable, if indeed any of it

Re: Keys resurfaces

I agree; it seems like if he really needed to raise some money, he could offer even a few of those choice pieces to other collectors ... sounds like he's got plenty of stuff other collectors would offer good money for, if it's not completely soaked or corroded out ... Best, Sean On Fri, Sep 4,

Re: Keys resurfaces

He got a big collection of SDS systems which I helped store the tape drives and printers for. Al was supposed to get the media, but it never got to me to get to Al and back. thanks Jim On 9/4/2015 12:54 PM, Tothwolf wrote: On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote: It seems to happen all

Selling brazilian vintage computer gear

Dear sirs... Ok, life does nasty things to us, and seems it is my time. Due to personal and health problems, I'll have to sell some of my collection. As bad as it is, I can't really afford keeping much of my stuff. I'll save just the nice gifts I got from friends and my beloved //e "Woz edition".

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

On 2015-09-04 20:31, Holm Tiffe wrote: Mike Stein wrote: - Original Message - From: "Johnny Billquist" Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote: Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk... Thanks

Re: Keys resurfaces

> With the storage situation, does this mean he is in violation of his > 501(c)(3) requirements? Probably not, since 501c3 is basically a tax thing. He might be in violation for not really being "public", however. > What does this mean for that vanload of gear Keys took out from under me via >

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

Thanks for all the border warnings. That's why I'm trying to keep stuff small. Paul On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:46 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > > Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up > a Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it,

Re: Keys resurfaces

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, jwsmobile wrote: On 9/4/2015 12:54 PM, Tothwolf wrote: On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote: It seems to happen all the time with collectables (I must admit I have a loft room full, and I don't have anywhere to exhibit) but to me this needs PEOPLE and then a PLAN

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:46 PM, William Donzelli wrote: >> Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a >> Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long >> conversation with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Jason T wrote: > On my big Canadian ccmp retrieval run last December, we were detailed "Detained," of course. A decent car detailing would have been worth the time.

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

The discussions of crossing the US/Canada border have been interesting. Only once have I crossed with classic computer gear (I took a SPARCstation 20 to Idaho Falls, Idaho for a list member, while en route to San Diego from Saskatchewan) and I had no trouble at all at the border. Then again,

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

Which ducks did you have in mind? I did a big Canada trip a few years ago; rented a truck and brought back a bunch of big disk drives mostly - mostly DEC, RP02, RP04, RP05 etc. Passed through customs in about 10 mins flat. "What's in the back?" "Bunch of ancient computer stuff for my

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > My personal experiences are that big border crossings (e.g. at the terminus > of U.S. Interstates) are less likely to detain you for questioning. The > smallest ones are suspicious of anyone who isn't a local and will

Re: Electronic devices and borders - Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote: >> >> read my >> email on my phone > > > I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means. Yep. Strong crypto on everything! Mike

Re: Electronic devices and borders - Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On 2015-09-04 11:58 PM, Mike Ross wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote: read my email on my phone I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means. Yep. Strong crypto on everything! Mike

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote: Yes. ALL the ducks. Several of us have been bounced at the border for trying to bring in larger machines. Basically, if it is something that is not a laptop or PeeCee or normal consumer electronics, expect trouble. It is not 1998 anymore. Do

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

> Do "Made in USA" markings still suffice when transporting from Canada to the > USA? Not for things more complicated than typical consumer electronics. -- Will

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

Glen Slick wrote: > I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one > working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have > copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at > this point that the drive is dead and there is nothing that can be

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On 9/4/2015 1:46 PM, William Donzelli wrote: >> Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a >> Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long >> conversation with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour day-trip >> to the US to pick up a

Re: no, not retrobrite

On 9/4/15 4:10 PM, Al Kossow wrote: I didn't know how the things worked, so I looked it up http://dailyapple.blogspot.com/2009/01/apple-367-magic-eraser.html and here is a US seller for 100 of 'em at $7.50 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261997395134

RE: no, not retrobrite

Al wrote... >I didn't know how the things worked, so I looked it up I should point out that for most things classiccmp I use them on, you have to scrub REALLY hard, in very small back and forth strokes. When you hear them squeaking, they are working right. It even gets out things that I could

Electronic devices and borders - Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote: read my email on my phone I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means. Borders have changed. Any data you take across them is fair game. --Toby

Re: Ongoing debug of RL8A controller

I reconnected the data bus pins, and disconnected all the MA0..11 pins (in case it's DMAing into memory when it should not be). Nope, same issue. Won't boot Serial Disk, corrupts the upper six bits of the loader. Only bus left is the memory data MD0..11, but that can't be shorted because on

RE: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

John wrote Might I respectfully just quip here, that different countries have different culture re what is offensive. [snip] I think the best policy is to let as much as possible "slide" here in the online world. VERY well put. About 1% of the time I post a question here, I get

Re: Electronic devices and borders - Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote: read my email on my phone I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means. Borders have changed. Any data you take across them is fair game. Indeed they have. ...and things continue to change:

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

Yup. I have done the same kind of thing with GALs (which offer the convenience of re-programming, though not the longevity of a PAL.) Did this as a backup for the Signetics chips on a Mark 8. You can see them in this Flickr stream - I had both "normal" and open collector variants, and designed

Re: Tu10 pdp11

> On Sep 4, 2015, at 8:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > > Reading docs on DEC TU10 for pdp 11 one makes a serial connection, right? > Not sure because I found little about baud, etc. ??? A TU10 is a formatter for 7 or 9 track magnetic tape. I don't remember any Baud in

Re: Tu10 pdp11

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 6:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > Reading docs on DEC TU10 for pdp 11 one makes a serial connection, right? > Not sure because I found little about baud, etc. No. > I did not see any definitive controller card for UNIBUS pdp 11. Maybe I am > missing

Tu10 pdp11

Reading docs on DEC TU10 for pdp 11 one makes a serial connection, right? Not sure because I found little about baud, etc. I did not see any definitive controller card for UNIBUS pdp 11. Maybe I am missing something..can anyone share experiences? Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

On 9/4/2015 5:41 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-09-05 00:31, Holm Tiffe wrote: Let me live the rest of my time like a child playing with old computers, that's exactly why we are here; nothing else matters. I know that people trying to help, trust me, I'm doing that in other, cases

Re: no, not retrobrite

On 9/4/15 3:30 PM, Jay West wrote: No, there's no retrobrite involved. Just a normal spray on household cleaner, followed by Magic Eraser and a lot of elbow grease. Yep, Magic Eraser is a wonderful thing. I didn't know how the things worked, so I looked it up

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

I took it as a cry of desperation, nor sure what was intended, but that's how it came across to me... Dave wade On Sep 5, 2015 12:03 AM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: > > > On 9/4/2015 5:41 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >> On 2015-09-05 00:31, Holm Tiffe wrote: >> >> >> Let me

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 12:55:25PM -0400, William Donzelli wrote: > Several of us have been bounced at the border for trying to bring in > larger machines. Basically, if it is something that is not a laptop or > PeeCee or normal consumer electronics, expect trouble. It is not 1998 > anymore. The

Re: Electronic devices and borders - Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

I had fun taking 20 IBM pc's from Montreal to the usa. I ended up setting up a broker account to ship items in a rented van. It was do this or the items would be impounded. I had to be escorted by flashing lights custims police bacj into canada. You can't simply drive through customs without

Re: Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

Related road trip info, I am currently in New Mexico and heading up to Colorado before I swing back to Austin, Texas. I can move a small trunkload of "stuff" during this swing if anyone wants. mcl

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk... > > Thanks to all that haven't answered. Sorry I can't help. I own no DSSI gear, never had to fix it, and from your well-written description of the

RE: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan > Dicks > Sent: 04 September 2015 07:51 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at

RE: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

> -Original Message- > From: Dave G4UGM [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com] > Sent: 04 September 2015 09:16 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk