Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

2016-11-08 Thread william degnan
> > > > As a follow up, I did end up purchasing the thing, in order to get the > prerequisite Altos 8200 system board and hard disk controller to mate > with my existing Altos disk. (My disk is the larger sized SA-4008, > contrary to the 1004 I cited earlier). It is indeed a 8000-10 system, >

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/07/2016 10:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 11/07/2016 07:59 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 11:23:58AM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote: But if you're a suburban resident living on Mulberry Street, anything but single-phase is pretty much out of the question. Oh, you can get it --

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

2016-11-08 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/17/2016 11:23 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > The back label says 8000-10A, which should indeed be a Z80 system with a > hard disk. I have an Altos 1004 disk for the thing (and experience with > its power supply ;) ), but when I bought mine, my seller (not the same > as this one) mis-listed the

Re: PDP 11/20 sold (ebay warning)

2016-11-08 Thread Al Kossow
Depending on what the clothing was, maybe they just like the old stuff. I buy good condition vintage shirts because I don't like the quality or fit of the crap they make today. On 11/8/16 7:24 AM, Tom Moss wrote: > Maybe the buyer was taking this hobby to the next level: a vintage way of >

Re: PDP 11/20 sold (ebay warning)

2016-11-08 Thread Tom Moss
On 8 November 2016 at 01:42, Graham Toal wrote: > the old clothes makes it sound like a prop buyer for movies... on the other > hand they'd probably buy a dead one for less... > Maybe the buyer was taking this hobby to the next level: a vintage way of life?

ISO Telenex/Atlantic Research protocol analyzer tech manuals

2016-11-08 Thread Al Kossow
another rathole :-( picked up some ST125 mfm drives and a multibus-ish floppy/mfm controller on ebay that came from a AR/Telenex 8600 Autoscope, which is a high-level protocol analyzer because it used an example of a hard disk controller chip I had never seen used before (Signetics 68454)

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 11/07/2016 10:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> On 11/07/2016 07:59 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 11:23:58AM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote: But if you're a suburban resident living on Mulberry Street,

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > ... >> >> A VFD is a good option and may be quite economical if you get one of the low >> cost simple ones. I have one (3 hp model for my lathe) that cost only a bit >> over $100, though the price has gone up

RE: Wang 2243 drive enclosure

2016-11-08 Thread Jason Howe
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Rick Bensene wrote: Jason Howe wrote: Are there any Wang people on this list? I came across a Wang 2243, which is an enclosure w/ 3 8-inch floppy drives in it for $75 in the local surplus shop. Jim Battle might be interested: http://wang2200.org. He's got a keen

Re: Wang 2243 drive enclosure

2016-11-08 Thread Jason Howe
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Brent Hilpert wrote: On 2016-Nov-07, at 10:06 PM, Jason Howe wrote: Are there any Wang people on this list? I came across a Wang 2243, which is an enclosure w/ 3 8-inch floppy drives in it for $75 in the local surplus shop. Is there a demand for something like this

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: >> >> >>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >>> >>> On 11/07/2016 10:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On

RE: Wang 2243 drive enclosure

2016-11-08 Thread Rick Bensene
Jason Howe wrote: > Are there any Wang people on this list? >I came across a Wang 2243, which is an enclosure w/ 3 8-inch floppy drives in >it for $75 in the local surplus shop. Jim Battle might be interested: http://wang2200.org. He's got a keen interest in Wang Labs 2200 (among some other

AS400 9406-170 available.

2016-11-08 Thread Lyle Bickley
Weirdstuff Warehouse has recently acquired a clean AS400 9406-170. It was taken out of service where it was running. The lot includes manuals, terminals, printers, cables, etc. I took a bunch of pictures of the unit which are available via the link below:

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Lyle Bickley
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 09:33:37 -0800 Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > On Nov 8, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Paul Koning > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Nov 8, 2016, at

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > >> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Jon Elson wrote: >> >> On 11/07/2016 10:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >>> On 11/07/2016 07:59 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 11:23:58AM -0800,

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/8/16 12:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > I've assembled and run on RT-11 and it goes through the motions of > writing out the timing and mark tracks, but when it goes through the second > pass to write out the block numbers it fails immediately Did you set the switch on the controller front

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread ethan
I’m looking to have to do something to get 3-phase for the IBM 4331 gear. I haven’t quite added up the power requirements yet but I’m guessing its going to be in the 10-15kVA range. Since the power to all of the gear is really split between 3 loads (string of 4 3340 drives, 3803 control unit

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > Hi all -- > > ... > 2) I'm looking for means to format DECtapes on the TC11. I have a few > marginal tapes and I'd like to see if reformatting them brings them back to > life. The maintenance manual only indicates "a

Re: ISO Telenex/Atlantic Research protocol analyzer tech manuals

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Duell
To hijack this thread... While sorting out some more stuff here I found an Atlantic Research protocol analyser. The front cover says it's a model 3600, but some of the PCBs say 4500 on them. Since from what little is on-line the 3600 could be upgraded to a 4500, I wonder if that is what happened

Re: ISO Telenex/Atlantic Research protocol analyzer tech manuals

2016-11-08 Thread Tony Duell
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 11/8/16 11:21 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > >> I don't suppose anyone has the manuals for it >> > > there are a couple of 4600 technical manuals listed on eBay > they probably won't have schematics, though > > > I am

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:51 AM, Dave Wade wrote: > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul >> Koning >> Sent: 08 November 2016 17:22 >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >>

General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Dersch
Hi all -- I'm working on getting a TC11 + TU56 running at the LCM+L. We plan to use it as a tool for various archival and restoration efforts. After restoring the power supplies, I have it lashed up to a PDP-11/44 -- I know this is anachronistic, but it's been a workhorse machine with ethernet

Re: ISO Telenex/Atlantic Research protocol analyzer tech manuals

2016-11-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/8/16 11:21 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > I don't suppose anyone has the manuals for it > there are a couple of 4600 technical manuals listed on eBay they probably won't have schematics, though

RE: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul > Koning > Sent: 08 November 2016 17:22 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information > > > > On Nov 8,

RE: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Guy > Sotomayor Jr > Sent: 08 November 2016 20:10 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information > > > > On Nov

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Dersch
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Nov 8, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > > > Hi all -- > > > > ... > > 2) I'm looking for means to format DECtapes on the TC11. I have a few > > marginal tapes and I'd like to see if

Re: ISO Telenex/Atlantic Research protocol analyzer tech manuals

2016-11-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/8/16 3:46 PM, Antonio Carlini wrote: > > I have manuals for the ARC Interview 7000 and the Interview 8000, but I > suspect that they are sufficiently different > as to be of no use to you. I do think they are scanned though, so if you > think they might be useful, please shout. > It

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/08/2016 11:33 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: Yea, that’s what I’m struggling with. The issue is that the control units power the devices that are connected to them (from what I can tell), so I have to power the entire string as one unit. The same goes for the 3340’s - the entire string is

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/08/2016 11:55 AM, Paul Koning wrote: The classic formula is 1 hp = 750 W. But there's more to the picture. Motors draw a steady state current based on the power demanded from them, and the hp rating shows the max that they are designed for. But when starting they draw much more

A Multibus board just sold for over $2000

2016-11-08 Thread Al Kossow
well, not just ANY Multibus board http://www.ebay.com/itm/262697366358

Re: Epson MX-80 Technical Manual?

2016-11-08 Thread Scott Kevill
Just wanted to say thanks for doing this scan (and of course all the other great work you do), Al, the quality was fantastic. For anyone else that didn't notice this (or forgot to check back), it's at:

Re: Supercomputers, fishing for information

2016-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/08/2016 11:08 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: I’m looking to have to do something to get 3-phase for the IBM 4331 gear. I haven’t quite added up the power requirements yet but I’m guessing its going to be in the 10-15kVA range. Since the power to all of the gear is really split between 3

Re: ISO Telenex/Atlantic Research protocol analyzer tech manuals

2016-11-08 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 08/11/16 19:35, Tony Duell wrote: I am pretty sure the 4600 is totally different (it's the 3600 and 4500 that I am looking for). It's probably going to be less hassle to trace the whole lot out. At least I recognise all the ICs apart from one (and that's on one of the boards labelled '4500'

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/44, I see the same behavior. > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/20, then I get the printout > described in the documentation and listings. ... I haven't yet dug in > to see what accounts for the

Re: MACRO11

2016-11-08 Thread Holm Tiffe
Toby Thain wrote: > On 2016-11-07 8:34 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > Jörg Hoppe wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> my version of the MACRO11 cross-assembler for PDP-11 is now on > >> https://github.com/j-hoppe/MACRO11 . > >> > >> Among others it fixes the "JMP Rn is illegal" error on "jmp (rx)" opcode. >

Re: General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

2016-11-08 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/8/16 1:43 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Josh Dersch > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/44, I see the same behavior. > If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/20, then I get the printout > described in the documentation and listings. ... I haven't yet dug

Re: A Multibus board just sold for over $2000

2016-11-08 Thread dwight
For a 432 board, I'm not all that surprised. It only needs the 43203 board to be a system. Eric S. would have loved to get that board. I suspect 432 stuff is even rarer than Intel bouble memory. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf

Re: A Multibus board just sold for over $2000

2016-11-08 Thread Marc Howard
A processor that Intel would love to forget... On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > well, not just ANY Multibus board > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262697366358 > >

Re: Wang 2243 drive enclosure

2016-11-08 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Nov-07, at 10:06 PM, Jason Howe wrote: > Are there any Wang people on this list? > > I came across a Wang 2243, which is an enclosure w/ 3 8-inch floppy drives in > it for $75 in the local surplus shop. > > Is there a demand for something like this whole or is the value in the drives? >