In a message dated 4/25/2017 10:24:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On 4/25/17, 7:28 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Jim Brain via cctalk"
wrote:
>Been trying to Google things, but not having a lot of luck. I
>understand both are white case, both have slimline
On 4/25/17, 7:52 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Jim Brain via cctalk"
wrote:
>On 4/25/2017 9:47 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote:
>> The 16B released around 1984 is essentially a factory upgraded Model 12
>>with the card cage and the 6Mhz MC68000 subsystem consisting of a CPU
>>card and 1 or more 16 bit memo
On 4/25/17, 8:46 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Alan Hightower via cctalk"
wrote:
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>Jim, I'll have a 16B at VCF-SE this weekend. You take as close a look as
>you want. It has a single slim 8" drive, an internal 15MB hard disk, and
>an external 5 MB hard disk. It also has the 68K card stack with 7
On 4/25/17, 7:52 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Jim Brain via cctalk"
wrote:
>On 4/25/2017 9:47 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote:
>> The 16B released around 1984 is essentially a factory upgraded Model 12
>>with the card cage and the 6Mhz MC68000 subsystem consisting of a CPU
>>card and 1 or more 16 bit memo
On 4/25/17, 7:28 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Jim Brain via cctalk"
wrote:
>Been trying to Google things, but not having a lot of luck. I
>understand both are white case, both have slimline drives, 12 had no
>card cage, I think I read somewhere that the 16 came with 68K std (no
>Z80?), and 12 had
Jim, I'll have a 16B at VCF-SE this weekend. You take as close a look as
you want. It has a single slim 8" drive, an internal 15MB hard disk, and
an external 5 MB hard disk. It also has the 68K card stack with 768KB
RAM. I don't have a keyboard for it though. I bought a 16 keyboard
thinking it w
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 10:52 PM, Jim Brain wrote:
>
> So, the 16B has the KB conn on the machine, but the KB?
> And, the 16B has the Z80 motherboard, witht eh 68K in the cage?
16B keyboard is the same as the 12. Cord is on the KB with a male connector.
Female is on the machine.
16B has the sa
On 4/25/2017 9:47 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote:
The 16B released around 1984 is essentially a factory upgraded Model 12 with
the card cage and the 6Mhz MC68000 subsystem consisting of a CPU card and 1 or
more 16 bit memory cards. The 16B for a time was the best selling Unix
workstation in the wor
The Model 16 was introduced in 1982 and was an upgraded Model II with the
addition of an MC68000 subsystem that allowed you to run 16bit OSes, like
TRSDOS-16, CPM-68K and TRSXENIX 1.x. On all Tandy 68K machines and operating
systems the z80 ran in concert with the 68k. The z80 handled all I/O
Been trying to Google things, but not having a lot of luck. I
understand both are white case, both have slimline drives, 12 had no
card cage, I think I read somewhere that the 16 came with 68K std (no
Z80?), and 12 had KB conn on case, 16B had KB conn on KB. Beyond that,
though, would love mor
I'm sure most of you DEC hackers have replaced a broken DEC handle or put
handles on a protoboard, and did what I've done in the past: use 4-40 screws
and nuts, or pop rivets. Well, I finally came across the right tool for the
job, an Indestro tubular rivet set! I cut the head off of a rivet on
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk
[cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:04 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Ford-Higgins Powerframe QBUS Docs
nope.
wonder if the 68k board was from I
nope.
wonder if the 68k board was from Integrated Solutions
On 4/25/17 4:52 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
> wrote:
>> On 4/25/17 1:46 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
>>> It has a combo fixed-disk/cart drive that their docs
>>> call an RC40.
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
> On 4/25/17 1:46 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
>> It has a combo fixed-disk/cart drive that their docs
>> call an RC40.
>
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Interesting! I've never heard of that manufacturer.
Do you know anything else about th
On 4/25/17 1:46 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
> It has a combo fixed-disk/cart drive that their docs
> call an RC40.
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Hi Pontus,
I reply to the original post, but I have read many funny comments. None
of them I considered harmful.
My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according
to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty.
I'd like to give it a good cleaning so I'm
I have scanned the manuals that came with my Ford-Higgins Powerframe
machine. It is a QBUS PDP-11/73 machine in what looks a whole lot
like a DEC BA23 enclosure. Not sure if it's a clone or a licensed
rebadge. The CPU board is DEC, the memory is a Clearpoint P/N
3325/300 (size unknown) and the
On 25/04/2017 17:46, js--- via cctalk wrote:
On 4/25/2017 11:34 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
Definitely. It takes a while, but even behind window glass (which is
barely transparent to short wavelength UV) EPROMs can eventually lose
their content. It happened to a friend who had a mac
> I'd just vacuum the card slots and wiring side with a shop
> vac with a crevice tool. I really would not get it wet. If
> you do this, vacuum all the water off and then dry in an
> oven at 100F or so for a day. You can clean the card edge
> fingers with an alcohol-soaked paper towel.
Yeah
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 12:46 PM, js--- via cctalk wrote:
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> On 4/25/2017 11:34 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
>> On 25/04/2017 15:55, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison via cctalk
>>> wrote:
>>>
Even after all that I'd still dry it with a l
A this is perfect, thank you! I had found a manual for another model a
while back and was going to ask if anyone on this list had the right one.
Much appreciated.
=]
--
Anders Nelson
+1 (517) 775-6129
www.erogear.com
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
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> On 4
On 4/25/2017 11:34 AM, Pete Turnbull via
cctalk wrote:
On 25/04/2017 15:55, Tapley, Mark via
cctalk wrote:
On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison
via cctalk
wrote:
Even after all that I'd still dry it
with a little heat (oven at 180F or
a clean empty
container in the sun.
Irrelevant fo
On 25/04/2017 15:55, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote:
On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison via cctalk wrote:
Even after all that I'd still dry it with a little heat (oven at 180F or a
clean empty
container in the sun.
Irrelevant for backplanes, but for circuit boards, would any UV-erasable PR
On 4/16/17 11:28 AM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I recently impulse-bought a paper tape reader from eBay, a Remex
> RRS6500BE1/660/DRB/U901
Tucker had a copy of the RRS6500 series manual
A scan is now up at
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/remex/112670-077B_RRS6500_Rea
On 04/24/2017 02:19 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk wrote:
Hi
My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according
to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty.
I'd like to give it a good cleaning so I'm tearing it down. And I'm
looking for suggestion to clean
On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> Even after all that I'd still dry it with a little heat (oven at 180F or a
> clean empty
> container in the sun.
Irrelevant for backplanes, but for circuit boards, would any UV-erasable PROMs
want to be checked to ensure their caps/cover
On 4/25/17 8:57 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk
wrote:
On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
"Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue
will be
On 4/25/17 6:06 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctech wrote:
On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
"Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue
will be water (look up "azeotrope") - plus you need a lot of
alcoho
On 4/25/2017 at 3:55AM, Geoffrey Reed wrote:
> In the ³spare² sectors on the xenix 3.2 media there is information on
> hooking a Tandy 2000? Keyboard to a 16/6000 I forget which disk it is on
> :( was told about it years ago by the xenix specialist at a RS computer
> center store
It's not that ea
On 04/25/2017 03:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote:
> On 4/24/2017 1:19 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctech wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according
>> to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty.
>>
>> I'd like to give it a good cleaning so
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
>>
>> On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
>>>
>>> "Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue
>>> will be water (look up "azeotrope"
On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
"Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue
will be water (look up "azeotrope") - plus you need a lot of
alcohol for something the size of a PDP-8 backplane. Blow dr
On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
"Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue will
be water (look up "azeotrope") - plus you need a lot of alcohol for
something the size of a PDP-8 backplane. Blow dry, even after an
alcohol rinse.
In the process
On 25/04/2017 08:51, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 4/25/2017 12:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote:
I would go for distilled water, tap water could have chlorine it
it.
Not enough to do any harm if you dry it sensibly; besides, it's more
likely to be choramines these days, not chlorine as suc
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:51:41AM -0700, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
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>
> On 4/25/2017 12:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote:
> >>
> >I would go for distilled water, tap water could have chlorine it it.
> >Ben.
I should hope not! Water comes from a well in my backyard. Perhaps I
could take a shor
On 4/25/2017 12:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote:
I would go for distilled water, tap water could have chlorine it it.
Ben.
Good point. Also with care, I've seen distilled water, then alcohol
rinse (not
rubbing, but pure of some sort), then air dry. This is used on optics
to get
rid of water s
On 4/24/2017 1:19 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctech wrote:
Hi
My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according
to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty.
I'd like to give it a good cleaning so I'm tearing it down. And I'm
looking for suggestion to cleanin
On 4/24/17, 4:55 AM, "cctalk on behalf of Peter Cetinski via cctalk"
wrote:
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>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Just picked up a TRS-80 Model 12, and it boot to the "insert disk
>>> prompt" ... Yay!
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>>
>> You can find the MC68000 board set (yo
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