On 07/22/2018 09:05 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> Throughout this whole thread, I've been tempted to say that you get better
> data fidelity if you take a green magic marker and mark the edges of the
> disk...
>
I think that the use of tapes in the 23rd century justifies their
reputation
> On Jul 23, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> what about DVD-RAM?
> are they good about data-reliability?
>
> cost:
> - SCSI DVD-RAM reader/writer, say about 180-240 euro, brand new
> - DVD-RAM cartridge (disk + caddy), say about 20 euro per 5 disks, brand new
>
> how
> Probably a good idea to use something like RAR with parity. I know I
> have
> downloaded some multi-segment binaries in RAR format from usenet with
> several missing segments and as long as I had the parity file set it
> could
> successfully recover the entire archive.
Parity will only take
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I think that the use of tapes in the 23rd century justifies their
> reputation for durability:
>
> http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Microtape
Very impressive, since Microtape was first sold in 1963, as
Does anybody here have experience with "M-Disc"?
It is available up to 100GB BDXL!
Drives start at less than $100; media is prices vary - the 100GB starts
at about $20 each, but the low capacity versions are bordering on
competitive.
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Ali wrote:
I have used M-Disc to
Assuming the MVME188 must also work in an backplane that has automatic
IACK/BG bypass, you would remove them in all slots that have a board
installed. AFAIK nothing gets damaged if you get it wrong, it's just that
VME cards further back on the bus won't work properly.
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at
What kind of media is it DVD+R or DVD-R? I think DVD-R (Pioneer) came first
and all the original DVD burners support it and it is the most reliable if
you are making movies for older DVD players. DVD+R is a Sony and Phillips
design and the recording format is different.
The last generation
Bob,
Thanks for the link!
I downloaded the files and made my own 4052R12 Graphics Enhancement ROM
Pack this weekend - and it works :)
Here is a thread where I discuss what this cartridge does:
what about DVD-RAM?
are they good about data-reliability?
cost:
- SCSI DVD-RAM reader/writer, say about 180-240 euro, brand new
- DVD-RAM cartridge (disk + caddy), say about 20 euro per 5 disks, brand new
how long does a DVD-RAM last?
4.5Gbyte per disk is ok for me, I need to archive my source
Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, carlos_muri...@ieee.org wrote:
Under SunOS 4.1.4, the last gcc version that is supported is 3.3.6,
but I haven't been able to build it on an IPX; it gets to the point
where it
Not quite true:
# uname -a
SunOS azu 4.1.1 10 sun4 unknown
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 08:06:24PM +0200, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote:
> thus DDS4, LTO2, DLT: which is the best tape?
If you even remotely care about your data, stay far away from DDS.
In a previous job we used DDS3 tapes as system backup and restore
tapes (since the machines could boot from
> Does anybody here have experience with "M-Disc"?
>
> It is available up to 100GB BDXL!
> Drives start at less than $100; media is prices vary - the 100GB starts
> at
> about $20 each, but the low capacity versions are bordering on
> competitive.
Fred,
I have used M-Disc to archive photos and
On 07/22/2018 09:05 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> Throughout this whole thread, I've been tempted to say that you get better
> data fidelity if you take a green magic marker and mark the edges of the
> disk...
On the other hand, information on MicroSD cards is likely to end up in
the sewer
My BD-R story:
For a little bit I was trying to go Blue Ray for backup of conference
talks I was recording at the time. I picked up a Samsung BD-R drive and
some memorex media. The media for BD-R comes in a High to low and low to
high versions. One is dye based not for long term, the other
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Below is a sampling of disks recorded between 2001 and 2009. It is
> likely that the disks of the same type were from the same package
> because I don't use many disks. They were stored without much
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> IMIHO, a grievous error by making things too physically small. The
> standard SD card is easy enough to pick out in a deep-pile carpet. Not
> so, the usual black-colored MicriSD. The dog might well eat
>
> I have a lot of backup here stored in CDs, and I have recently bought
> an SCSI DVDRAM unit to create new backups in caddies DVD-RAMs (of
> 4.2Gbyte each)
what is your experience?
I recently disposed of a couple hundred DVD and CD backups I'd made. As
mentioned in a previous comment, it's
On 07/23/2018 09:21 AM, Devin Monnens via cctech wrote:
>> I have a lot of backup here stored in CDs, and I have recently bought
>> an SCSI DVDRAM unit to create new backups in caddies DVD-RAMs (of
>> 4.2Gbyte each)
>
> what is your experience?
>
>
> I recently disposed of a couple hundred DVD
Greetings to the List -
Carlo, I have been using IDE68K out of Norway for about five years
and it is excellent: http://home.kpn.nl/pj.fondse/ide68k/
It includes the 68020 instructions such as bit instructions etc -
also floating point.
I only use the assembler and download S-records to
On 07/22/2018 03:59 PM, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk wrote:
Status update:
They let me go home Thursday but I was too wiped out to post about it. Things
are still pretty fluid, there were some complications, but they’re being
managed. I was on the waitlist for 5 years and 4 months, they listed
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:22:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa)
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Strange third party board in PDP-11/45
Message-ID: <20180722132225.49a0b18c...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> From: Paul Birkel
Darn! Alas the freight would be a killer... Ed#
In a message dated 7/23/2018 6:44:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
davidkcolli...@gmail.com writes:
I have a 3000 Series 70... but it’s in Australia!
David Collins
+61 424 785 131
> On 24 Jul 2018, at 11:32 am, Ed Sharpe via cctalk
>
I have a 3000 Series 70... but it’s in Australia!
David Collins
+61 424 785 131
> On 24 Jul 2018, at 11:32 am, Ed Sharpe via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> And if you collect hp. which... we do of course at SMECC so need
> to hear if you all have any of this.
>
>
>
> The scanjet
That's great news I had myself set up as a doner on anything they wanted.
But in February I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer which disqualify me
as an organ donor for obvious reasons.
I'm still so amazed how few people our donors here in Oregon you just have
the back of your driver's license
On 7/23/2018 7:58 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
Darn! Alas the freight would be a killer... Ed#
Is that you moving the computer to the USA or you moving
yourself and all your stuff to OZ. I suspect that freight would still
be afordable because it would go ship rather than overnight.
Unsubscribe
> On 24 Jul 2018, at 03:31, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
>
> And if you collect hp. which... we do of course at SMECC so need
> to hear if you qall have any of this.
>
>
>
> The scanjet BW is first HP... and scanject 2c is first color
> scanner hp
>
At one time DEC left it up to the branches whether or not to maintain
non-DEC parts. The switch would help by disabling the device while running
diags and doing other maintenance. Nobody wanted to be liable if a non-DEC
board had to be pulled.
Paul
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:57 PM, Paul Birkel
And if you collect hp. which... we do of course at SMECC so need to
hear if you qall have any of this.
The scanjet BW is first HP... and scanject 2c is first color
scanner hp
always accepting gifts of these 2.
IN hp lasers
2686a first HP laser...
And if you collect hp. which... we do of course at SMECC so need to
hear if you all have any of this.
The scanjet BW is first HP... and scanject 2c is first color
scanner hp
always accepting gifts of these 2.
IN hp lasers
2686a first HP laser...
Has printerworks gone under?
Their website is unresponsive.
Does anybody have scans of their CX and SX "catalogs"?
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
-Original Message-
From: Paul Birkel [mailto:pbir...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:36 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Strange third party board in PDP-11/45
...
>From the ABLE marketing literature:
CACHE/ 45 (CACHE BUFFER MEMORY) INSTALLS
>
>
> Studying the MS11 Maint Manual, the MS11 controller has access to the full
> address and data from both the CPU (FastBus) and UNIBUS B. (The FastBus
> actually has two uni-directional data busses; in and out.) So all that
> info,
> this hypothetical cache board can get from the slot it is
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel
Chiappa via cctalk
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 2:07 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Strange third party board in PDP-11/45
- MS11-B Engineering Drawings
About
Would a Quniverter would work?
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Mark Matlock via cctech
> wrote:
> >Now my question is, there are 3 Bus slots in the 11/84 above the
> Unibus map board, would it be
On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, carlos_muri...@ieee.org wrote:
Under SunOS 4.1.4, the last gcc version that is supported is 3.3.6, but I
haven't been able to build it on an IPX; it gets to the point where it
Not quite true:
# uname -a
SunOS azu 4.1.1 10 sun4 unknown unknown SunOS
# gcc -v
Reading
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mattis Lind
via cctalk
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:36 AM
To: Noel Chiappa; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Strange third party board in PDP-11/45
Here is how it is
Does somebody know how to set the IACK and BG backplane jumpers for the MVME188
CPU? Remove them all? Leave them in behind the memory and/or cpu board(s)?
Something else? All the documentation I can find are for the normal VME SBCs,
which the 188 isn't.
Thanks!
ok
bear.
--
until further
Grumpy Ol' Fred wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> I'd almost forgotten about that old chestnut. Fortunately, Snopes
> remembers:
> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bewaring-of-the-green/
But, what about using a gold USB cable?
Only if it is pure gold. None of
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Charles Dickman
> via cctalk
> Sent: 22 July 2018 23:38
> To: W2HX ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
> Posts
> Subject: CoCo OS/9 was: TRS-80 floppy
>
> So what does it take to get OS/9 running on a Radio Shack Color Computer?
> From: Charles Dickman
> an 11/84 with the UNIBUS adapter and PMI memory does not have a Qbus.
> ... the KDJ11-B (M8190) bus protocols change when a KTJ11 (UNIBUS
> adapter) is present and so what would be expected to be Qbus isn't.
Ah, excellent point.
Looking at the
Hi Mark,
If you want to borrow one to try it, let me know.
Paul
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > From: Charles Dickman
>
> > an 11/84 with the UNIBUS adapter and PMI memory does not have a Qbus.
> > ... the KDJ11-B (M8190)
> #30 "PMI on KDJ11-B and MSV11-J"
So it turns out there are _two_ uNote sets, with overlapping numbers! (A fact
about which I was previously unaware!)
I have two PDF files of the collections; micronoteReprints.pdf (the first
set), and oemMicronotes.pdf (the second).
Note! There's an index
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 13:42, Carlo Pisani wrote:
>
> with software like Tektronix's TekXpress you can't simulate the middle button
Please bottom-post on the list if you can. Gmail does it fine. I'm
doing it right now. Hit Ctrl-A, trim, paste below.
I don't know TexExpress. What OS does it run
On 07/21/2018 10:14 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote:
hi
yesterday I was shocked by a couple of videos on Youtube where guys
pointed out their negative experiences with CD ROM and DVD RAM as
media for their own backup.
They complained their data completely lost after 5 years of storage in
CD
On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 at 23:12, Carlo Pisani via cctalk
wrote:
> the software I need to use requires the third button to
> select items
Have you experimented with the option where pressing both buttons
simulatenously simulates the middle button? A configurable option in
most Windows mouse
with software like Tektronix's TekXpress you can't simulate the middle button
2018-07-23 13:00 GMT+02:00 Liam Proven via cctalk :
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 at 23:12, Carlo Pisani via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> the software I need to use requires the third button to
>> select items
>
> Have you
> I don't know TexExpress. What OS does it run under?
VxWorks, customized by Tektronix.
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 13:55, Carlo Pisani wrote:
>
> VxWorks, customized by Tektronix.
Oh boy. Yeah, I see what you mean.
That is going to be tricky, then.
Is a separate mouse/trackball out of the question?
Few PS/2 keyboards are made any more, so you're looking for a subtype
of a subtype of
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