On 27/05/2020 11:55, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
It's better now, though. Price differences can be explained by delivery costs,
import duties, and VAT/sales tax. And in the case of 1977, middlemen who
exploit the difficulty in importing stuff oneself.
The USA is some sort of gravity well
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 05:04:10PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> also, the Amiga wrote track rather than sector at a time, so a sector write
> needed to be delayed until the track was ready to be written
And could therefore corrupt ten unrelated sectors from other files at the same
On 5/26/20 9:24 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 5/26/2020 1:35 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
Of course, COBOL is even older and also had structures.
Not everybody had access to power computing, some had to make do with
a PDP 7 and write Unix.
You seem to place very high needs on COBOL.
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:19:41PM -0700, Yeechang Lee via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> Longstanding tradition in the British computers market.
> "*New Scientist* stated in 1977 that 'the price of an American kit in dollars
> rapidly translates into the same figure in pounds sterling by the time it has
I’ve received a Logical Machine Corporation (Lomac) DAVID system, which appears
to be successor to the Lomac ADAM.
The system consists of the main box with an 8” floppy drive (labeled “DAVID
PROCESSOR”), a keyboard/monitor box (labeled “DAVID DISPLAY”), and a printer.
I am looking for both
On Wed, 27 May 2020, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
I would be most intrigued to see what a hardware lock and soft-eject for a USB
key would look like.
Eject would require fairly precise fit for a solenoid follower around the
perimeter.
Are the square holes in the USB-A top and bottom side
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:57 -0700, geneb wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2020, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
>
> > I just received an email from the Living Computer Museum that they
> > were
> > suspending operations. It wasn't clear from the email what that
> > actually means.
> >
>
> They've been
This related story makes the situation a bit scarier.
https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/vulcan-to-close-its-arts-entertainment-division-which-includes-cinerama-and-seattle-art-fair/
On 5/27/2020 5:47 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2020-05-27 6:56 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in
relatively modern languages:
https://imgur.com/ESMFgNb
Arg a web page!
I'm sorry if
They probably don't know.
Anytime somebody with $20B dies it will take years to sort out the estate
because of taxes and people lining up for money due (legit or not). Any
charities set up before he passed probably have to live off of what money
they had on hand before his passing for a few
This is why people should avoid donating equipment directly to institutions and
instead lend hardware to them.
At least then you have a claim with which to try to get your stuff back if they
fold, close, or decide to go in a direction you don’t like.
-- Chris
Hm. Well, if I have to drive out there and pick up AI, the letter is
there. Just let me know.
C
On 5/27/2020 5:52 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
I just received an email from the Living Computer Museum that they were
suspending operations. It wasn't clear from the email what that
https://www.livingcomputers.org/Closure.aspx
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:02 AM Chris Zach via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hm. Well, if I have to drive out there and pick up AI, the letter is
> there. Just let me know.
>
> C
>
> On 5/27/2020 5:52 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
On May 27, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
>
>> On May 27, 2020, at 4:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>>
>> On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>> Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time
>>> sharing system at Stanford.
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:23 PM William Donzelli via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > Anytime somebody with $20B dies it will take years to sort out the estate
> > because of taxes and people lining up for money due (legit or not).
>
> Yes, for people that had no "exit strategy", but
That wasn’t an option for most folks. They told me that they didn’t accept
items on loan.
alan
> On May 27, 2020, at 19:33, Chris Hanson via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> This is why people should avoid donating equipment directly to institutions
> and instead lend hardware to them.
>
> At least
On Wed, 27 May 2020, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
I just received an email from the Living Computer Museum that they were
suspending operations. It wasn't clear from the email what that
actually means.
They've been closed to visitors since early March I think.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C
"In the coming weeks we’ll follow up with information about ticket,
membership and donation refunds."
The "membership and donation refunds." bothers me the most, especially with
Paul Allen no longer on the scene.
If LCM were to cease operations permanently that would be a disaster, as
there is
On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in
relatively modern languages:
https://imgur.com/ESMFgNb
Arg a web page!
The first thing that comes to mind is "How many terrabytes" for "hello
World".
This might mean
> Anytime somebody with $20B dies it will take years to sort out the estate
> because of taxes and people lining up for money due (legit or not).
Yes, for people that had no "exit strategy", but somehow I think Paul
Allen did some sort of estate planning before he passed...
--
Will
Indeed. This looks bad. Hopefully they can pull a rabbit out of their hat
and figure out how to reopen, but I'm not holding my breath.
Mike
That place was funded by Paul Allen right? I would have thought it would
have been setup to last many years.
- Ethan
--
:
> They've been closed to visitors since early March I think.
A lot of smaller museums are going into hibernation. Most are
confident they will reopen sometime in the future, but well past the
points that they are allowed to by government order.
It is unfortunate for the paid staff.
--
Will
On 2020-05-27 6:56 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
>
>> It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in
>> relatively modern languages:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/ESMFgNb
>
> Arg a web page!
I'm sorry if the sight of a URL is
On 5/27/20 12:38 PM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:22 PM Craig Ruff via cctech
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of an effective technique to replace the sheath of a
>> cable without needing to reterminate the ends? On all of the Apple power
>> adapter cables I've
If you're in South Eastern Pennsylvania, Kennett Classic is open; lean and
mean and I suppose and a 50th of the LCM but open nonetheless (by
appointment). The sign on the door reads "No shoes, no shirt, no mask- no
service. I was there all day today.
Currently working to decipher some Honeywell
The big problem with this situation is that it’s simply unnecessary: Living
Computer Museum + Labs is not independent of Vulcan, and Vulcan can *easily*
afford to keep the people who work there on payroll and working from home
indefinitely.
This is happening entirely because the people holding
Indeed. This looks bad. Hopefully they can pull a rabbit out of their hat
and figure out how to reopen, but I'm not holding my breath.
Mike
On Wed, May 27, 2020, 6:26 PM Lee Courtney via cctalk
wrote:
> "In the coming weeks we’ll follow up with information about ticket,
> membership and
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 7:36 PM William Donzelli via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > They've been closed to visitors since early March I think.
>
> A lot of smaller museums are going into hibernation. Most are
> confident they will reopen sometime in the future, but well past the
>
That’s worrying. When the Historical Resource Center I was working with in my
area shutdown a few years ago, Ian came down and collected a U-Haul worth of
stuff, including part of my personal collection. What I really regret sending
up there is a large box of Honeywell DPS-8 documentation
Aw shit
(Where is the nearest U Haul?)
CZ
On 5/27/2020 8:13 PM, Ian McLaughlin via cctalk wrote:
This related story makes the situation a bit scarier.
https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/vulcan-to-close-its-arts-entertainment-division-which-includes-cinerama-and-seattle-art-fair/
On 2020-05-27 9:19 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> On 5/27/2020 5:47 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
>> On 2020-05-27 6:56 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
>>>
It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in
relatively modern
I just received an email from the Living Computer Museum that they were
suspending operations. It wasn't clear from the email what that
actually means.
TTFN - Guy
Liam Proven wrote:
> I don't know. There is a huge amount of tradition and culture in
> computing now, and as a result, few people seem to have informed,
> relatively unbiased opinions. There hasn't been much real diversity in
> decades.
>
> 25 or 30y ago, people discussed the merits of Smalltalk
> On May 26, 2020, Al Kossow wrote:
>
> On 5/26/20 6:39 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Algol W was from Eroupe?
>>
>> Algol W was from Stanford, written by Wirth when he was there
>
> Actually, by Dick Sites
>
>
Hello,
I'm looking for Cobalt Qube cases, preferably in North America.
I would prefer non working Qubes as I don't want to deprive anyone of
working ones. Doesn't matter whether it's a 1, 2 or 3. I'm looking to
repurpose the cases.
Thanks!
> On May 27, 2020, at 4:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time
>> sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the syntactical
>> definition of the language
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:22 PM Craig Ruff via cctech
wrote:
> Does anyone know of an effective technique to replace the sheath of a
> cable without needing to reterminate the ends? On all of the Apple power
> adapter cables I've used the plastic sheath starts to fall apart, but the
> adapter
Does anyone know of an effective technique to replace the sheath of a cable
without needing to reterminate the ends? On all of the Apple power adapter
cables I've used the plastic sheath starts to fall apart, but the adapter
itself and the cable conductors are still useable. Something that
On May 27, 2020, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> Al Kossow wrote:
>>> Algol W was from Eroupe?
>> Algol W was from Stanford, written by Wirth when he was there
>
> I wonder if there's any connection to Stanford's SAIL language?
Good question. I believe the answer is “Wirth was initially involved with
On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote:
Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time
sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the syntactical definition
of the language and a number of sample programs as well as a brief description
of the
Ok, so we banged the MSV11-P revision B/C memory issues into the ground
(looks like the problem is burst mode DMA on Q Bus can cause random
failures that corrupt disks) however does anyone know if the bug will
affect the board if you use it as a normal Q bus memory board?
In other words, if
On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote:
And here’s a 1964 Stanford TimeSharing Project Memo by McKeeman and Wirth on
Gogol:
Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time
sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the syntactical definition
On 2020-05-27 4:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1
>> time sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the
>> syntactical definition of the language and a number of
On May 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Alan Perry wrote:
>
> That wasn’t an option for most folks. They told me that they didn’t accept
> items on loan.
Well, that really sucks.
-- Chris
most museums of all varieties are closed still the smart ones
will remain so for a while longer...the foolish will jump the gun.Ed#
sdIn a message dated 5/27/2020 2:57:12 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On Wed, 27 May 2020, Guy Sotomayor via
On 5/27/2020 8:43 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
At the moment I have no wish to fight a web site,to find what should be
simple information.
It's a picture. They can be useful.
That is why clicking with my mouse did nothing.
I like if eif else fi for if statements.
What keyboard are you
The big problem with this situation is that it’s simply unnecessary:
Living Computer Museum + Labs is not independent of Vulcan, and Vulcan
can *easily* afford to keep the people who work there on payroll and
working from home indefinitely.
Did Vulcan have a lot of exposure to real estate?
On May 27, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:
>
> I would think that if people you liked got replaced with people who
> don't care then you might have a major battle trying to get back stuff
> you loaned.
It might be a battle, possibly even a major one, but it would be fundamentally
what are you dong with the cases?
since we are keeping a cube as a display might like sow extra guts
for backupEd# SMECC
In a message dated 5/27/2020 12:45:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
Hello,
I'm looking for Cobalt Qube cases, preferably
I live in hope for the tag “for now”. It’s always my first place to visit
when I fly in to the west coast.
//m
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 9:58 am, Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 7:36 PM William Donzelli via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hello, everyone,
As I'm sure all of you are aware, the COVID-19 pandemic has led to a crisis
with devastating effects on many cultural organizations, and more especially on
those which rely on public gatherings and special events to achieve their
mission. Since before we opened to the public
You can use cable lacing.
It does not make it pretty(er), but usable.
If You don't want to remove the connectors or cut the cable
You cannot add any new sheath?
There may be some fabric/wowen expandable sheaths
which have been used on power cables earlier but I have no precise knowledge.
yikes that almost has a tome of finality to it eh?
Ed#
In a message dated 5/27/2020 3:11:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
https://www.livingcomputers.org/Closure.aspx
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:02 AM Chris Zach via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
On 5/27/20 1:42 PM, Matti Nummi via cctalk wrote:
> You can use cable lacing.
> It does not make it pretty(er), but usable.
> If You don't want to remove the connectors or cut the cable
> You cannot add any new sheath?
>
> There may be some fabric/wowen expandable sheaths
> which have been used
On 5/27/20 9:02 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
The big problem with this situation is that it’s simply unnecessary:
Living Computer Museum + Labs is not independent of Vulcan, and Vulcan
can *easily* afford to keep the people who work there on payroll and
working from home
Alan Perry wrote on Wed, 27 May 2020 20:02:06 -0700
> That wasn't an option for most folks. They told me that they didn't accept
> items on loan.
>
> alan
>
> > On May 27, 2020, at 19:33, Chris Hanson wrote:
> >
> > This is why people should avoid donating equipment directly to institutions
On 5/27/2020 8:53 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
On May 27, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:
I would think that if people you liked got replaced with people who
don't care then you might have a major battle trying to get back stuff
you loaned.
It might be a battle, possibly
Keven we would love it for the pc products display at smecc..!!Ed
Sharpe
In a message dated 5/26/2020 10:05:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
I have an old HP DeskJet 550C color printer - inkjet,that I'm ready to part
with. It does basic PCL.Anyone with
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