Commodore in the USA/CANADA was often pressed into service for a cheap
text video overlay for broadcast TV. Was that TV overlay ever used in
the UK or Europe?
Ben.
In the UK, Acorn gear was used quite a bit for overlays and computer
generated graphics. I think the Amiga was used to a
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 09:55:08AM -0400, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
> [...] WIN 11 is much more secure than previous Windows versions. [...]
Windows 11 hasn't even been released yet, so this cannot be known. Any
claims of "much more secure" comes from press releases and other marketing
On 2021-09-27 23:46, ben via cctalk wrote:
> POSIX requires a byte to be exactly 8 bits I read somewhere.
> C99 C standard?
> Great for ARM and INTEL, not so great for the 36 bit computers.
> Ben.
And probably don't work on your 20-bit CPU, when it is done ;-)
On 2021-09-27 11:46 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote:
> On 2021-09-27 3:15 p.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:
>> On 2021-09-27 10:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote (in part):
>>>
>>> However, much of the "Linux" software is in fact POSIX software, and
>>> can quite easily be ported between Linux and
On 2021-09-28 02:26, Tor Arntsen via cctalk wrote (in part):
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 23:31, Zane Healy via cctalk
wrote:
On Sep 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk
wrote:
On 2021-09-27 10:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote (in part):
However, much of the "Linux" software is in fact
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 22:14, Yeechang Lee via cctech
wrote:
>
> This was true in more wealthy countries outside the US, too. Sinclair never
> got anywhere in Germany compared to Commodore, for example.
This may be true; I work for a German company but I've never lived
there. I know
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 01:14:54PM -0700, Yeechang Lee via cctech wrote:
> Liam Proven says:
[...]
>> If you were going to spend as much as a new car on an early home
>> computer,
> If you're going to exaggerate for effect, don't exaggerate so much that
> your meaning is lost.
I went and looked
Jecel Assumpcao Jr says:
> While the American public were very ignorant of Sinclair's
> achievements, the US home computer makers were very worried about
> them. In 1983 both Commodore and Texas Instruments were working on
> their "ZX81 killers".
The US industry thought that the $99 price point
I found files for my favorite DOS editor on an archive from my OS/2
machine, which replaced my DOS machine in about 1990.
The editor was ETOOL, from Amerisoft.
If anybody wants the files, I'm happy to send them.
-rw-r--r-- 1 vsnyder staff 245248 Mar 8 1988 e/dos/etool.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 vsnyder
Yeechang Lee wrote on Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:36:15 -0700
> The US industry thought that the $99 price point needed to be reached, in
> part because of the Timex/Sinclair 1000's example; besides the 99/2 and
> Commodore 16, the TRS-80 MC-10 is another example of the ultra low-cost
> "Sinclair
> On Sep 28, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 9/28/2021 5:14 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
>> On 2021-09-27 11:46 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote:
>>> POSIX requires a byte to be exactly 8 bits I read somewhere.
>>> C99 C standard?
>>> Great for ARM and INTEL, not
On 2021-09-28 11:43 a.m., Vincent Long standing via cctalk wrote:
The C standards are more liberal, and continue to require char types to
be 8 or more bits.
Was PL/I the only language that would let you select data size for
variables? Of course the fine print would not let you have more than
On 9/28/21 12:26 AM, Tor Arntsen via cctalk wrote:
Everything I personally develop for Linux will build on all Linux
distros, and also IRIX, Solaris, AIX, and, until recently, Tru64
(because I have access to those systems, except for Tru64 now). And
to some extent BSD variants.
Kudos to you.
... and also has many rare ones in stock; reasonable prices, good guy!
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 11:38 PM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2021-09-27 9:23 a.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
> > While restoring and repairing a Data General Nova 2/10 I found a bad
> > bipolar PROM on the CPU board. The
On 9/28/2021 5:14 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
On 2021-09-27 11:46 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote:
POSIX requires a byte to be exactly 8 bits I read somewhere.
C99 C standard?
Great for ARM and INTEL, not so great for the 36 bit computers.
We've been through this before. No.
As I understand
My .02 on this is that the computing world has changed a lot since the
1990s. Back when I was using RH 5, it was useful for server-side stuff
but as a general replacement for Windows desktops, it left a lot to be
desired. On the other hand, it was pretty stable. Eventually I moved
to an
On 9/28/21 12:15 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> My next computer will be 44 bits, if I ever get the routing timing bugs
> out the FPGA
> prototype card. I can't change the FPGA vender because I can use TTL
> macros like 74181, for TTL bread boarding.
> With the 74181 I can have any width I want,
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
Editors are like religion once you have a favorite you defend it like crazy.
"Baby Duck Syndrome": you bond to the first one. Any time you are tempted
to switch, everything that any other one does differently is "just all
wrong". If you are
Fred Cisin said "'course, then there are the MAJOR religious battles.
Such as VI VS EMACS."
I cannot agree more. I know many people who live in VI thought I cannot
fathom why. My first screen based editor (as opposed to a text editor),
in 1980, was John F. Wakerly's Programma Improved
On 9/28/2021 4:44 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
'course, then there are the MAJOR religious battles. Such as VI VS EMACS.
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't figure out
how to exit it."
(written in vi)
I try to stay out of the VI/Emacs war, but I do use VI
On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 17:03 -0500, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote:
> > On 2021-09-28 11:43 a.m., Vincent Long standing via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > > The C standards are more liberal, and continue to require char
> > > types
> > > to be 8 or more bits.
> > Was PL/I the only language that would let you
On 9/28/21 3:02 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 9/28/2021 2:48 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't
figure out
how to exit it."
:q
you're welcome
Or having to power cycle the machine to get out of EMACS.
Why would
To Exit EMACS: Control-X Control-C
On 9/28/2021 5:02 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 9/28/2021 2:48 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't
figure out
how to exit it."
:q
you're welcome
Or having to power cycle the
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't
figure out how to exit it."
:q
you're welcome
Or having to power cycle the machine to get out of EMACS.
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
To Exit EMACS:?? Control-X Control-C
I once saw a car with a vanity
On 2021-09-28 2:24 p.m., Paul Koning wrote:
My next computer will be 44 bits, if I ever get the routing timing bugs out the
FPGA
prototype card. I can't change the FPGA vender because I can use TTL macros
like 74181, for TTL bread boarding.
With the 74181 I can have any width I want, thus I
Editors are like religion once you have a favorite you defend it like crazy.
I discovered the Basic Reconfigurable Interactive Editing Facility
(Brief), initially sold by Underware and then Solution Systems, in the
late 80s. It quickly became my favorite editor. Eventually Borland
bought
Hold down the shift key and press the letter Z twice.
You're free, you're free and freedom tastes like reality...
On 9/28/2021 4:44 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
'course, then there are the MAJOR religious battles. Such as VI VS EMACS.
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly
On 9/28/2021 2:15 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2021-09-28 11:43 a.m., Vincent Long standing via cctalk wrote:
The C standards are more liberal, and continue to require char types
to be 8 or more bits.
Was PL/I the only language that would let you select data size for
variables? Of course
On 9/28/21 3:49 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
> Yes. There is an elisp package called EVIL (Extensible VI Layer) that
> emulates VI in EMACS.
I confess to having Wordstar so thoroughly burned into my reflexes that
I still use joe under linux.
Let's not forget MINCE, either. Ran on
> 'course, then there are the MAJOR religious battles. Such as VI VS EMACS.
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't figure out
how to exit it."
(written in vi)
--
personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
Cameron Kaiser *
> > > "I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't
> > > figure out how to exit it."
> >
> > :q
> >
> > you're welcome
>
> Or having to power cycle the machine to get out of EMACS.
I think people missed the part where I said I typed the reply (and, for that
matter, this
On 9/28/21 3:41 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't
figure out how to exit it."
:q
you're welcome
Or having to power cycle the machine to get out of EMACS.
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
To Exit EMACS:
You are correct, in WordStar I was Control-K + C for copy, Control-K + V
for move block. In Windows it's Control-C for copy and Control-V for
paste.
I was wrong about control P, that is print in windows.
Sorry, my memory is going.
In my defense its still C for copy and V for paste in both.
> On Sep 28, 2021, at 3:15 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 2021-09-28 11:43 a.m., Vincent Long standing via cctalk wrote:
>
>> The C standards are more liberal, and continue to require char types to be 8
>> or more bits.
> Was PL/I the only language that would let you select data size for
On 9/28/21 2:19 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> Editors are like religion once you have a favorite you defend it like
> crazy.
My lovely wife still uses QEdit under a DOS emulator running on Linux.
I occasionally still use an editor that I wrote for CP/M-80, and then
ported to MS-DOS. The
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't figure out
how to exit it."
:q
you're welcome
On 9/28/2021 2:48 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't
figure out
how to exit it."
:q
you're welcome
Or having to power cycle the machine to get out of EMACS.
thanks
Jim
> On 28 Sep 2021, at 23:13, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> On 9/28/21 3:02 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/28/2021 2:48 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>>>
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't figure out
how to exit it."
>>>
Control-C, Control-X & Control-P for copy, cut and paste in Windows 11
dates back to Wordstar on 8-Bit CPM systems in the 80s.
On 9/28/2021 6:36 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 9/28/21 3:49 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
Yes. There is an elisp package called EVIL (Extensible VI
On 9/28/21 4:46 PM, Mike Katz wrote:
> Control-C, Control-X & Control-P for copy, cut and paste in Windows 11
> dates back to Wordstar on 8-Bit CPM systems in the 80s.
Are you certain about that?
Ctrl-C = Page down
Ctrl-X = Line down
Ctrl-P = not on WS
One way to remember this is to look at the
On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 15:49 -0700, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
> Since EMACS has a full programming language (elisp), you can write
> anything you want in it (mail readers, browsers, calendar apps, other
> editors, etc)
Years ago, one of my colleagues showed me a pocket reference card
On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 14:29 -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 9/28/21 2:19 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> > Editors are like religion once you have a favorite you defend it
> > like
> > crazy.
>
> My lovely wife still uses QEdit under a DOS emulator running on
> Linux.
>
> I
On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 15:13 -0700, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
> I only use VI if I absolutely must and always have issues with the
> modality.
I was told to worry about the damage I could do to my filing system by
typing my password when VI is in the wrong mode.
For those of you who wrote your own editors. How did you display special
ASCII characters? Years ago, In highschool I tried writing a hex editor (in
qbasic so this may have been the problem) but when display anything that
had a function like chr 07 it would activate instead of display. I gave up
I spent years working in field service, and this was a conversation I had
multiple times per day...
Me: Silently types 'vi ' or 'edlin ' depending on the platform
Client: Wow you still use - You should use Qedit12005b
its the best!
me: But the next client I visit won't have Qedit12005b, so I
On 9/28/21 8:37 PM, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
> For those of you who wrote your own editors. How did you display special
> ASCII characters? Years ago, In highschool I tried writing a hex editor (in
> qbasic so this may have been the problem) but when display anything that
> had a function
-Original Message-
From: Jecel Assumpcao Jr via cctech
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 3:21 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair,
from Fast Company
I had a choice between the MC-10 and the Timex 2068
Van,Is this for the manual I picked up from you? It was red three ring binder
deal.-Ali
Original message From: Van Snyder via cctech
Date: 9/28/21 1:07 PM (GMT-08:00) To:
cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Found my favorite DOS editor I found files for
my favorite DOS editor on
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
For those of you who wrote your own editors. How did you display special
ASCII characters? Years ago, In highschool I tried writing a hex editor (in
qbasic so this may have been the problem) but when display anything that
had a function like chr
I remember in college we raised some money and bought 10 in kit form. It went
so well that 2 weeks later we ordered 10 more kits. We were astonished to find
the second order of 10 already assembled and tested.
Cool stuff…
George Rachor
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
Liam Proven says:
> I know that Sinclair computers were _so_ cheap that in the USA they
> were perceived as toys, not worthy of any serious consideration.
This was true in more wealthy countries outside the US, too. Sinclair never got
anywhere in Germany compared to Commodore, for example. The
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 23:31, Zane Healy via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-09-27 10:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote (in part):
> >>
> >> However, much of the "Linux" software is in fact POSIX software, and can
> >> quite
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