RE: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread tony duell
[Writing alignment disks] I have an idea that some of these units used an optical interferometer to determine the head position Quite possible. But it also requires the movement control being different from a standard drive, in order to drive at the precision, as well as the feedback

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-17 Thread Jarratt RMA
(I would change the subject line, but I am not sure how to do it in my ISP's web mail client) As far as I know XH558 will be permanently stationed at Finningley after this year's flying season is completed. The full details are here: http://www.vulcantothesky.org/, including dates of flypasts and

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Paul Koning
On Jun 17, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se wrote: On 2015-06-17 19:40, tony duell wrote: [Writing alignment disks] As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely vibration free

Re: DEC RRD-42 CDROM drives

2015-06-17 Thread Richard Loken
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Jarratt RMA wrote: I have an RRD-42 already, but a spare would be nice if shipping to the UK wasn't too expensive. Any idea how much it would cost? Too much I will wager. Off hand I cannot estimate the size or weight... -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System

Re: Windows and devices - was Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-17 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 17, 2015, at 10:50 , Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: Here's a cute gotcha I hit this week: - Have a running Windows 8.1 machine with PS/2 keyboard. - Shut it down, start up with only USB keyboard. - Shut down and boot again with PS/2 keyboard atached. - Windows ignores

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 17, 2015, at 16:14 , John Ball ball.of.j...@gmail.com wrote: About six months ago I struck a deal with a place down in California for four Documation M1000's that I've been able to tell so far they all work but I really don't have space for more than one. I've been trying to sell

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread Kyle Owen
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:14 PM, John Ball ball.of.j...@gmail.com wrote: About six months ago I struck a deal with a place down in California for four Documation M1000's that I've been able to tell so far they all work but I really don't have space for more than one. If anyone here does get

Re: RE: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-17 Thread Jonas Otter
On 2015-06-17 13:28, Dave G4UGM wrote: I found it easier to think of it in DC terms. So the Cap charges through R5 + R3 and R9 + R8. As the Cap charges the voltage on the base of Q1 rises until it turns on, which then turns on Q2. While the cap charges, it steals the base current which would

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread COURYHOUSE
Mike where did you get new rubber roller things for the card reader? Thanks for the link on theinterface. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/17/2015 7:21:15 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us writes: On Wed, 17

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread Mike Loewen
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Kyle Owen wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:14 PM, John Ball ball.of.j...@gmail.com wrote: About six months ago I struck a deal with a place down in California for four Documation M1000's that I've been able to tell so far they all work but I really don't have space for

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 17, 2015, at 19:48, Chris Osborn fozzt...@fozztexx.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Are the readers in question these ones in Canada? When you drive up there to get them, you can stop by my house on your way home and drop one off. I’m

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Are the readers in question these ones in Canada? When you drive up there to get them, you can stop by my house on your way home and drop one off. I’m in Sacramento so I’m right on the way. I’ll let you play some air hockey

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/17/2015 11:56 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-06-17 18:36, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: How was alignment packs produced? As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely vibration free environment, and

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread Mike Loewen
I haven't replaced the rubber rollers on my M1000, yet. They're still in good shape. On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote: Mike where did you get new rubber roller things for the card reader? Thanks for the link on theinterface. Ed# _www.smecc.org_

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-17 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 17, 2015, at 16:14, John Ball ball.of.j...@gmail.com wrote: About six months ago I struck a deal with a place down in California for four Documation M1000's that I've been able to tell so far they all work but I really don't have space for more than one. I've been trying to sell them

Re: OT? Compaq 5/60M

2015-06-17 Thread Sean Caron
I'd consider it OT ... I miss my IBM 9595 ... with the P60 processor complex ... I thought it was doubly cool since the CPU was one of the examples of the Pentium that got shipped with the FDIV bug ... great machine to play with WNT 3.51/4, or OS/2 3.x or 4.x. I wouldn't say the P5 killed

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-17 Thread Alexander Schreiber
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:14:18PM -0700, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jun 15, 2015, at 21:59, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: Even though there are at least 4 different USB connectors Ok, you got me there! When I was working for a GPS startup, I used mini-B on everything I

Re: OT? Compaq 5/60M

2015-06-17 Thread Sean Caron
IIRC, they shipped that QVGA card you show on your Compaq P60 page with the DECpc AXP 150, too, no? Man that thing was awful ... I always lusted after the better card they shipped on that machine (don't recall) that could do 24-bit. I miss that box too ... ah, nostalgia. Best, Sean On Wed, Jun

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread jwsmobile
Microdata had a setup they used for packs, then later for writing servo platters for their Reflex winchester drives. Similar to this system someone made a video of on youtube https://youtu.be/p4v7RRadC8E The electronics, optics, lasers and control heads show up on ebay from time to time.

Re: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-17 Thread Brent Hilpert
The M452 module schematic for quick access for anyone following along, as it hasn't been linked before in the thread: http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/modules/mSeries/M452.pdf

Re: OT? Compaq 5/60M

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Run of the mill PC clones are rather booring. But brand names, oddballs and first are always fun. I wouldn't mind to have the first DELL machine in my collection. I have a DECpc 433 with matching SCSI expansion box. A desktop machine with some interesting solutions. /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015

RE: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-17 Thread Dave G4UGM
That's only the schematic. The link I included earlier:- http://dustyoldcomputers.com/pdp-common/reference/drawings/modules/m/m452.pd f also includes the PCB component layout, from which I inferred the Trim Pot is of the 10-turn variety. Dave -Original Message- From: cctalk

Re: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-17 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Dave G4UGM I found it easier to think of it in DC terms. So the Cap charges through R5 + R3 and R9 + R8. As the Cap charges the voltage on the base of Q1 rises until it turns on, which then turns on Q2. At this point the cap is then charged (or discharged) in

RE: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-17 Thread Dave G4UGM
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa Sent: 17 June 2015 15:08 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: using new technology on old machines From: Dave G4UGM I found it easier to

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-17 18:36, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: How was alignment packs produced? As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely vibration free environment, and then a very precisely controlled head control

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Pontus Pihlgren How was alignment packs produced? On a special rig, I'm pretty sure. I don't know how the RK06 alignment pack works, but I am familiar with the RK05 (our machine had them, and we had to realign one after a head crash), and I assume it's probably similar; it had to

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
How was alignment packs produced? /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:39:25AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: Anyone need an RK06 alignment pack: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Equipment-RK06-Aglinment-pack-/221803433215 Seems like something that should definitely get saved! Noel

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:39:25AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: Anyone need an RK06 alignment pack: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Equipment-RK06-Aglinment-pack-/221803433215 Seems like something that should definitely get saved! That's AMAZING! I never had RK06es (just RK07s -- DM has them