Re: DEC Logo

2015-06-30 Thread simon
On 29-06-15 14:56, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-06-29 3:54 AM, simon wrote: the front of the internal bus options maintenance manual in front of me. But looking at the f in 8/f gives me the impression they mixed some fonts for the logo and taking a closer look at the line: digital equipment

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Tue, 6/30/15, Vincent Slyngstad v.slyngs...@frontier.com wrote: I'll see if I can breed the one I just got.  :) Do *not* post pictures.  I'm still trying to forget seeing the ones from that other guy. Don't worry. I don't have any plans to cross breed it with myself. Besides I doubt

Re: list consolidation

2015-06-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
ditto but I never complained as I was grateful that it existed in the first place! Ed# In a message dated 6/30/2015 6:35:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, heal...@aracnet.com writes: On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Jay West jw...@classiccmp.org wrote: FYI - in the fairly

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Brian L. Stuart: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:49 PM I'll see if I can breed the one I just got. :) Do *not* post pictures. I'm still trying to forget seeing the ones from that other guy. Vince

Bruker Aspect 2000 tapes

2015-06-30 Thread dwight
Hi All I have a number of tapes for the Bruker Aspect 2000. These are paper tapes. All looking for a good home. I'd like these to go to someone with one of these computers. It looks like it included the OS. These are paper tape, not mag tape. Free Plus shipping. Dwight

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Ian S. King
I've been saying for some time that I think VAXen breed in the corners - I don't quite know where all of these VAXstations came from. (I still want a VLC, though - just saying.) -- Ian On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Ethan Dicks ethan.di...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:33 PM,

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Brian L. Stuart
they are known to multiply on their own... Clearly someone who has one (or better more) 780s (or 730s) needs to start breeding them for the rest of us. I guess to be fair I should offer that if anyone wants a 3600 and they can reproduce asexually, I'll see if I can breed the one I just got. :)

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Fred Cisin
If you have some storage, then you can lose a microcomputer. If you lose a minicomputer, then you have a lot of storage. If you lose a mainframe, then you have ENOUGH storage.

Re: list consolidation

2015-06-30 Thread Zane Healy
On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Jay West jw...@classiccmp.org wrote: FYI - in the fairly near term, I plan to get rid of the two views of the same list configuration on the classiccmp server. And there was much rejoicing! Personally I've always hated the two list view. Zane

Re: Bruker Aspect 2000 tapes

2015-06-30 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Jun-30, at 5:22 PM, dwight wrote: Hi All I have a number of tapes for the Bruker Aspect 2000. These are paper tapes. All looking for a good home. I'd like these to go to someone with one of these computers. It looks like it included the OS. These are paper tape, not mag tape. Free

RE: Bruker Aspect 2000 tapes

2015-06-30 Thread dwight
From: hilp...@cs.ubc.ca On 2015-Jun-30, at 5:22 PM, dwight wrote: Hi All I have a number of tapes for the Bruker Aspect 2000. These are paper tapes. All looking for a good home. I'd like these to go to someone with one of these computers. It looks like it included the OS. These

Announcing TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS

2015-06-30 Thread Johnny Billquist
I'm happy to announce a new release of TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS. Since I'm broadening the scope of the announcement slightly, a more complete list of features is included, and not just what changed since last. For anyone who is currently running TCP/IP for RSX, I strongly encourage you to

Re: DEC Logo

2015-06-30 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-06-30 4:44 AM, simon wrote: On 29-06-15 14:56, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-06-29 3:54 AM, simon wrote: the front of the internal bus options maintenance manual in front of me. But looking at the f in 8/f gives me the impression they mixed some fonts for the logo and taking a closer

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 06/30/2015 08:48 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: I would appreciate some advice on both the software and the hardware life expectancy of a PC Windows System. While the hardware / software of the second and third system are almost 10 years old, I don't consider them, let alone the first system,

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/30/2015 5:48 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: At present, I have three systems that I am running: Dave had some excellent advice. However i had a friend who is a database developer (mentioned because he's not really interested in fooling with his OS, etc.) that wanted to upgrade an older

Spacewar paper has been published!

2015-06-30 Thread Devin Monnens
It gives me great pleasure to inform you that the Spacewar paper I wrote with research from Martin Goldberg and responses from many people on this list has finally been published. The paper, Space Odyssey: The Long Journey of Spacewar from MIT to Computer Labs Around the World is available for

Re: Spacewar paper has been published!

2015-06-30 Thread Jerome H. Fine
Devin Monnens wrote: It gives me great pleasure to inform you that the Spacewar paper I wrote with research from Martin Goldberg and responses from many people on this list has finally been published. The paper, Space Odyssey: The Long Journey of Spacewar from MIT to Computer Labs Around the

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Jerome H. Fine just how thin is the ice that I am skating on for system (a)? ... if the motherboard in system (b) is not too old at 7 years and 30,000 hours One data point for you: I have a whole flock of old HP desktops (actually, minitowers) from the late 90's

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread william degnan
Finding this ironic thread considering we here keep machines waay past their freshness date going. Work with whatever and be prepared to migrate to another machine as needed. I never set in stone this is my xzy machine forever... see my point? Use whatever is the least hassle now, and will

R: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
The problem with sitting idle for long time is the same as with old systems : caps can get dry and destabilize, leading to invisible or visible issues. The videocard missing the 2nd output can be just that, but it's easy for you to check (by swapping the B videocard and making sure that it's an hw

Re: Spacewar paper has been published!

2015-06-30 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 6/30/2015 5:14 AM, Devin Monnens wrote: Martin and I would appreciate any feedback you have on the paper, including anything we might have missed or gotten in error and any new insights or memories you wish to share. Note we are still interested in collecting data through our survey, which

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 06/30/2015 11:05 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: I don't think this qualifies as answers persay, but more just data points really... I have successfully installed run Win7 x86 x64 on Dell Latitude D620, D630, D820 D830. Not sure on the age, but

RE: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Dave G4UGM
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin Sent: 30 June 2015 16:06 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Dave Woyciesjes

RE: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Dave G4UGM
Why not??!? Fair question, easy answer. Security. Unless it's air-gapped, I wouldn't put anything sensitive on WinXP. Every month, we are finding out just how much WinXP is like swiss cheese. Well there are other reasons. You buy a new printer and you find it only works on

RE: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Fred Cisin
Why not??!? Why do the experts advocate not using something that had been working? (Windows XP) On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Dave G4UGM wrote: Because the base OS and Applications no longer supports current internet standards ? Oh, OK. I didn't realize that this machine wasn't connecting to the

Re: list consolidation

2015-06-30 Thread Alexandre Souza
As the youngers says, You got my like! 2015-06-30 15:35 GMT-03:00 Jay West jw...@classiccmp.org: FYI - in the fairly near term, I plan to get rid of the two views of the same list configuration on the classiccmp server. It has always created a rather large administrative burden, but also

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Fred Cisin
Why not??!? On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: Fair question, easy answer. Security. Unless it's air-gapped, I wouldn't put anything sensitive on WinXP. Every month, we are finding out just how much WinXP is like swiss cheese. THAT is a good answer/reason! Why do the experts

RE: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Steven Hirsch
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Dave G4UGM wrote: .. its really great fun Only OS/2 is a little truculent Have you tried Parallels for hosting OS/2? It was developed originally for the Russian banking system to get their OS/2 based legacy software on to modern hardware. OS/2 worked

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:23 , Guy Sotomayor g...@shiresoft.com wrote: You *know* you have too much stuff and it's packed too tightly when you can lose a VAX 11/780! This reminds me of when I was exploring a surplus yard, and found a *fire truck* buried in a pile. Walked right by it a few

list consolidation

2015-06-30 Thread Jay West
FYI - in the fairly near term, I plan to get rid of the two views of the same list configuration on the classiccmp server. It has always created a rather large administrative burden, but also lately just has not been working right (problems subscribing, duplicate emails, a continuous stream of

Re: equipment available

2015-06-30 Thread Paul Anderson
too many drugs... On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Jay West jw...@classiccmp.org wrote: Paul wrote... - Sorry, that should have been off list. - Yep, and that's why you missed the deal ;) Someone responded privately right away, the equipment has been claimed. J

Logos and typefaces and fonts (oh, my!) [was: RE: DEC Logo]

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Dave G4UGM Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:43 AM From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Toby Thain Sent: 30 June 2015 14:10 On 2015-06-30 4:44 AM, simon wrote: On 29-06-15 14:56, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-06-29 3:54 AM, simon wrote: the front of the

Re: Request for web development (ccmp)

2015-06-30 Thread Andrew Burton
What specific tools/software/languages would be required to fill the role? Regards, Andrew Burton aliensrcoo...@yahoo.co.uk www.aliensrcooluk.com - Original Message - From: Jay West jw...@classiccmp.org To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:41 PM Subject: Request

R: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
Parallels for windows is no more since years, now there's only the mac version :( -Messaggio originale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Steven Hirsch Inviato: martedì 30 giugno 2015 20:37 A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Oggetto: RE:

Re: list consolidation

2015-06-30 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 06/30/2015 02:35 PM, Jay West wrote: FYI - in the fairly near term, I plan to get rid of the two views of the same list configuration on the classiccmp server. It has always created a rather large administrative burden, but also lately just has not been working right (problems subscribing,

RE: equipment available

2015-06-30 Thread Jay West
Paul wrote... - Sorry, that should have been off list. - Yep, and that's why you missed the deal ;) Someone responded privately right away, the equipment has been claimed. J

RE: Request for web development (ccmp)

2015-06-30 Thread Jay West
Andrew wrote... What specific tools/software/languages would be required to fill the role? Standard FAMP stack (where F = freebsd)

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 06/30/2015 02:43 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Why not??!? On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: Fair question, easy answer. Security. Unless it's air-gapped, I wouldn't put anything sensitive on WinXP. Every month, we are finding out just how much WinXP is like swiss cheese. THAT is a

Re: Spacewar paper has been published!

2015-06-30 Thread Devin Monnens
On page 24 of the slides, the computer should be an IBM 1130 not 1160. Bob Ah! Thanks for pointing that out, Bob. The slides aren't used anymore outside of the presentation, but I will fix that. (I think there's one or two other errors in those slides...check the Spacewar demonstration

Re: R: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Steven Hirsch
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: Parallels for windows is no more since years, now there's only the mac version :( And I was referring to the 32-bit Linux version, so certainly dated information :-). --

Re: Advice Requested on Life Expectancy of a PC Windows System

2015-06-30 Thread Douglas Taylor
I have Win3.1, Win98, and XP systems in separate boxes to support my classic computer interests. The latest is my Tek TDS320 oscilloscope, which I wanted to get a screen grab or actual data from. TEK had a piece of code Docuwave I think, which is 20 years old which talks to it via rs232 or

Re: Spacewar paper has been published!

2015-06-30 Thread Marc Howard
There's one machine not on you list although it doesn't surprise me. I worked on an Adage AGT-30 that had an excellent version of Spacewar ported to it (along with Life, Lunar Lander and 4x4x4 tic-tac-toe. These were all running sometime prior to 1972. I wonder if anyone else on the list worked

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Jerry Weiss
1) Start small. You can always add to the collection later.That often occurs, sometimes with accompanying amnesia of the actual transaction. 2) If you possess genes for “like to take things apart” and “ability to put things back together *** ” start with a Q-Bus VAX. The number and

RE: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Robert Jarratt
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. Blair Sent: 30 June 2015 19:10 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:23 , Guy Sotomayor

Re: Logos and typefaces and fonts (oh, my!) [was: RE: DEC Logo]

2015-06-30 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 30/06/2015 20:21, Rich Alderson wrote: Note that I use the terms (type)face and logo, not font. Until Apple bastardized the term, a _font_ was a package of metal type in a particular _typeface_, and was the unit by which type was ordered from a foundry. A _logo_ was a special item, cast as

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Mark J. Blair
I still think I would enjoy acquiring an 11/780 series machine someday, when my wallet recharges and I've had time to excavate enough room out in my barn. But for now, I'm pretty stoked just to have my little 11/730. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 29, 2015, at 01:22 , devin davison lyokob...@gmail.com wrote: My main place for looking for hardware has been ebay, although most of what im seeing is untested and expensive. Is there a better place to find older machines like this? Back to the original topic: By posting your

Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax

2015-06-30 Thread william degnan
they are known to multiply on their own... On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Guy Sotomayor g...@shiresoft.com wrote: On 6/30/15 4:08 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote: I think if I had the opportunity to own a 780 I would do my best to *make* space for it, although I fear it would mean having to