Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Fred Cisin
I'd vote for big VAX list. The minutiae of marketing names is pretty boring and irrelevant to such a list isn't it? Should the requirement be weight, physical size, or what tools are lost in it?

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread william degnan
I have found that bounces can be reduced if you play around with the receiving mail server.For example, turn off greylisting (returns 400 level codes some servers don't like). On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Mouse mo...@rodents-montreal.org wrote: I've only been back on the list for about

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. thanks Jim On 7/7/2015 7:44 AM, dwight wrote: What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread COURYHOUSE
Dwight, yes I think so as I am on many lists and some hate the aol address more than others do Ed# In a message dated 7/7/2015 7:29:43 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, dkel...@hotmail.com writes: As providers get more crowded, they will have more bounces. They tend to

Masscomp MC-500 - Re: cctech Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5

2015-07-07 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-06 3:33 PM, Clem Cole wrote: ... One other note about the MC-500. If was the first commercial Multiprocessor UNIX (predating the 386 bases symmetric boxes but a few years) as well as being the first real time UNIX box. I still have working one in my basement. It has 4 CPU boards

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread COURYHOUSE
will this include micro vax also? Ed# In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ape...@snowmoose.com writes: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great william degnan once stated: I have found that bounces can be reduced if you play around with the receiving mail server.For example, turn off greylisting (returns 400 level codes some servers don't like). I do greylisting on my email server [1] and I have

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Mouse
sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. This is a client-side issue; there is no need to uglify the rest of the email just because someone has an email reader that doesn't know what to do with URLs. Html

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are some on this list (such as I) that do not use a graphical email client,

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great couryho...@aol.com once stated: Dwight, yes I think so as I am on many lists and some hate the aol address more than others do I've had my fights with AOL (since I run my own email server). I think in the end, I had to tell AOL that I was

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Jay West
Should the requirement be weight, physical size, or what tools are lost in it? BTU requirements.

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Armstrong
I'd vote for big VAX list. I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 20:54, Robert Armstrong wrote: I'd vote for big VAX list. I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... 9000 is also XMI.

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread tony duell
I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... 9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember right. SDI on the other hand is

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread P Gebhardt
Sorry for the scope creep; but perhaps it might be more useful/interesting to make it a registry of any VAX that has a name of the form VAX-11/7xx? (Which could also include the VAX 8600 and VAX 8650, since were originally to be called the VAX-11/790 and VAX-11/795.) I'd vote

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search engines do, so the list is text searchable. For

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a large VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and VAXstations should

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 03:43 PM, jwsmobile wrote: I just don't see inconveniencing an entire list because a few people want to run on internet connected 286 machines, with attached ASR33's. And to say that should carry much weight on selecting the format of the email is pretty inconsiderate to

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Tuesday (07/07/2015 at 04:18PM -0700), Vincent Slyngstad wrote: For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, javascript, and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. I just want to read

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates the

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:49, tony duell wrote: I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... 9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 07:18 PM 7/7/2015, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, javascript, and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. That is one reason why I still run Eudora Pro,

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread John Robertson
On 07/07/2015 4:44 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org No matter which platform anyone is using,

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 5:43 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:43 PM, jwsmobile j...@jwsss.com wrote: If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 6:14 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson pinb...@telus.net Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Reply-To:

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread wulfman
yes html email gets deleted for the most part On 7/7/2015 7:13 PM, Jay West wrote: Chris wrote... Boy, count another vote against HTML-izing this list if that's what's being considered. - No, forcing the list to send email as HTML has never been done, nor is it being considered. I do

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 06:41 PM, jwsmobile wrote: Thunderbird does have a bad habit of interpolating and remembering typos, however, so if you at some point in time type in gene...@classicmp.org, there is an entry in the Thunderbird address book called collected addresses. It may have your general @

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Osborn
Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson pinb...@telus.net Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, General Discussion:

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-06 11:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry ape...@snowmoose.com wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre office can open it. --Chuck

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 08:29 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org,

email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread dwight
What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple email. What is all that html code for? This is just a few simple text strings with nothing special needed. Dwight

Re: List Gripes

2015-07-07 Thread Mouse
I've only been back on the list for about a week and already it has determined that my address has too many bounces. There must be a parameter that can be set to adjust the sensitivity. I wouldn't count on it. I've already run into aspects of mailman which exhibit astonishing blind spots.