Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: Come watch me install Linux on the IBM z890 Mainframe!

2016-02-01 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Neil Cherry wrote: > On 01/31/2016 06:05 PM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >> >> Come one come all! >> Its the day of reckoning. >> I finally have some storage on loan from a company called Funsoft! >> Hopefully by the end of the

Re: USPS: Shipping

2016-02-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Norman Jaffe wrote: > > I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big hole punched in the side of > a tape library that was shipped to me, completely destroying the library. > The hole matched the fork on a forklift truck. > UPS insisted

Re: USPS: Shipping

2016-02-01 Thread Norman Jaffe
I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big hole punched in the side of a tape library that was shipped to me, completely destroying the library. The hole matched the fork on a forklift truck. UPS insisted that the hole existed before they shipped it - until it was pointed out that the

RE: HP Manuals - where's your sense of humor?

2016-02-01 Thread tony duell
> > You, should read the article series "Liebson on IO" about the HP 98X5 IO. > And processor manual from the BPC on HP9825.NET. Do not forget the HP75C ROM source code... -tony

Re: USPS: Shipping

2016-02-01 Thread Ian S. King
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > > > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Norman Jaffe wrote: > > > > I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big hole punched in the > side of a tape library that was shipped to me, completely destroying

Vintage Computer Collectors - TV Special Inquiry (fwd)

2016-02-01 Thread Sellam Abraham
Does anyone want to have their children exploited for profit and entertainment? "I'm currently Producing a show for TLC that features children who have a passion for collecting. I was wondering if you know any kids who have a sizable collection of vintage computers? If you can think of anyone

Re: BA23 fan noise

2016-02-01 Thread Steven M Jones
On 02/01/2016 08:22, Warner Losh wrote: > [...] All you can do about that is to get a smaller fan that can turn more > slowly. If you couldn't tell from the rest of his post, Warner meant "get a larger fan," not "smaller." This is why main PC case fans can now be had in excess of 5" / 12cm. The

RE: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Do you recall which specific PS/2 hardware? You're talking AIX 1.3 for PS/2, right? I thought you might even be able to run it on an LX40... There are at least reports of people getting it to run in older versions of VirtualPC. Thanks! -Ben From:

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor
From what I recall, microchannel PS/2’s with a 386, 486 or Pentium. I don’t recall if it was ever run on an ISA based PS/2. AIX PS/2 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and it’s final release 1.3 (which at the end had quarterly updates that added new HW support in each update…but I don’t recall how those were

AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread devin davison
I have been messing with the Hercules emulator, and have really been wanting to take a look at ibm AIX, and get a working install on an emulated system 370. I have found no mention of install media or disk images of a working system for download online. Is there a good place to get the install

Big-Board II & Micro Cornucopia User Group Disks

2016-02-01 Thread Jim Simpson
Thanks very much to all who posted a reply. The BBII disk files was something I didn't have, and the CD image had some very interesting stuff. I did go and download the bitsaver files also. Thanks again!

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 3:10 PM, devin davison wrote: > > I have been messing with the Hercules emulator, and have really been > wanting to take a look at ibm AIX, and get a working install on an emulated > system 370. I have found no mention of install media or disk images of

RE: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Dave Wade
As I said on the Hercules list, its licenced materials so probably not available anywhere, and IBM is pretty protective about its intellectual property. It wasn't widely used, and it wasn't popular where it was used. There was also Amdahl UTS but again licenced. Dave G4UGM > -Original

Still wanted: Symbolics Gear

2016-02-01 Thread Seth Morabito
Hi folks, This is as always a tremendous long shot, but I figured I would put it out there anyway. I am still eagerly looking for any and all Symbolics systems. I know very well how rare these things are, and how much money they are worth. If you have any systems you would be willing to let

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread devin davison
Darn. I figured as much as far as being licenced, but figured I would ask. I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix. I don't have any of the original hardware, I assume there was a straight unix port for the system 370, but i have enough native hardware that runs unix i might as

Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-02-01 Thread Paul Anderson
I recognized a few things when you posted the pics, bet can't remember what they are. I will look at some reference material this week. I do know they aren't DEC racks. Should be great! Paul On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Jay West wrote: > DEC Gear available. Unlike

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:24 PM, John Wilson wrote: >>I'd really like to get the F11 base instruction set control (part of >>the DCF11 hybrid) and the KEF11-B CIS (six chip hybrid spanning two >>40-pin DIP sockets) to be dumped in this way, but only if someone is >>willing to

RE: HP Manuals - where's your sense of humor?

2016-02-01 Thread Rik Bos
You, should read the article series "Liebson on IO" about the HP 98X5 IO. And processor manual from the BPC on HP9825.NET. -Rik -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "tony duell" Verzonden: ‎1-‎2-‎2016 17:52 Aan: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"

HP Manuals - where's your sense of humor?

2016-02-01 Thread Martin.Hepperle
While I was reading through the HP 200/300 BASIC Manual I came across some interesting points I hadn't considered in the past. I thought HP manuals were dry and hard to read, but I was wrong. See for yourself... Installing, Using, and Maintaining the BASIC 5.0 System

ISIS-II disks with PLM80 and ICE80 software.

2016-02-01 Thread Mattis Lind
While browsing various 8 inch floppies I have found a couple of disks that seems to contain ISIS-II stuff. I discovered a document specifying the format of the disk and managed to extract the contents: Disk1: arbetsrumsdatorn:ISIS mattis_lind$ ls UNKN2 ATTRIB DSPERR ICE80.OV1 ISIS.LAB PLM80.OV0

Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Pete Lancashire Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:22 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a very strong box. I've

RE: HP Manuals - where's your sense of humor?

2016-02-01 Thread tony duell
> I thought HP manuals were dry and hard to read, but I was wrong. See for > yourself... I've found more jokes in technical/service manuals. Take a look at the HP1311B XY display manual, the EHT power supply section : page 151 of the pdf on hpmuseum.net. -tony

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On 2/1/16 10:05 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: The AIX in the quote was regarding AIX for the RS/6000. The kernel for AIX on the RS/6000 bore no real resemblance to any other Unix kernel. [...] Yes, it was alien (vs

Re: HP Manuals - where's your sense of humor?

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Rik Bos wrote: > You, should read the article series "Liebson on IO" about the HP 98X5 IO. > And processor manual from the BPC on HP9825.NET. Has anyone scanned the "How They Do Dat Manual"?

Re: Last call: free machines in Sweden

2016-02-01 Thread Ian S. King
I really like my 4000/300 - and it warms the room quite nicely. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Glen Slick wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Pontus Pihlgren > wrote: > > > > A 4000/300, the first 4000 QBus machine I believe. And the only one

Re: Last call: free machines in Sweden

2016-02-01 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 08:34:21AM -0800, Glen Slick wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > > > A 4000/300, the first 4000 QBus machine I believe. And the only one that > > doesn't have a separate memory bus. > > > > (I wouldn't be surprised if

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread devin davison
What machine would you recommend for the Linux route. The idea being to run the oldest machine possible. I was looking at AIX because it ran on one of the oldest ibm machines i could find. I see the big S/390 machines have pretty good linux support, but god, ill never find one around here.

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:09 PM, devin davison wrote: > I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix. > I don't have any of the original hardware, I assume there was a straight > unix port for the system 370, There may be a "straight unix port" for the

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Phil Budne
My favorite quote (by my one-time boss at BU, Barry Shein): "AIX, it will remind you of Unix" Eric Smith wrote: > Am I misremembering, or doesn't AIX use substantially different > commands for managing things, rather than the commands typically found > in /sbin and/or /usr/sbin on "normal" Unix

Re: Equipment Available, DEC

2016-02-01 Thread Ulrich Tagge
Hi Jay, You should have received my mail. The distance from me to Switzerland is not to high, and I'm quite often there, so maybe I can pick-up them, and extend my collection. Many Greetings Ulrich

Re: PDP-11/84 (KDJ11-B) and Error 61

2016-02-01 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Ulrich Tagge wrote: > Hi List, > > I have a working 11/84, and I have decidec, to test some of my spare cards, > starting with: KDJ11-B. > > I see the following error, when powering up the system, which points me to > the Clock. >

Circuit Design Aids / Unix Circuit Design System

2016-02-01 Thread Mark Kahrs
In the original Unix BSTJ of 1978 Sandy Fraser described a system he called "Circuit Design Aids". Schematic capture was done on a 4014 and conversion went all the way to wire wrap. CDA was rehabbed and rewritten by many people over the years. It became known as the Unix Circuit Design System

Re: HP Manuals - where's your sense of humor?

2016-02-01 Thread Pete Lancashire
Tektronix up in Oregon also let a few doodles escape http://www.reprise.com/host/tektronix/humor/ On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:51 AM, tony duell wrote: > > > > I thought HP manuals were dry and hard to read, but I was wrong. See for > > yourself... > > I've found more

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Richard Loken
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, devin davison wrote: What machine would you recommend for the Linux route. The idea being to run the oldest machine possible. I was looking at AIX because it ran on one of the oldest ibm machines i could find. Way back, circa 1980, Unix V6 was ported to the 370, a bit

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor
If you want a "Unix" experience on the mainframe, the easiest/best way at this point is Linux. TTFN - Guy On 2/1/16 7:09 PM, devin davison wrote: Darn. I figured as much as far as being licenced, but figured I would ask. I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix. I don't have

Re: AIX for IBM system 370

2016-02-01 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, devin davison wrote: What machine would you recommend for the Linux route. The idea being to run the oldest machine possible. I was looking at AIX because it ran on one of the oldest ibm machines i could find. Howzbout Xenix? Could run it on a 286 AT. Maybe even on an XT?

Re: USPS: Shipping

2016-02-01 Thread Tothwolf
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Norman Jaffe wrote: I've had even more fun with UPS - there was a big hole punched in the side of a tape library that was shipped to me, completely destroying the library. The hole matched the fork on a forklift truck. UPS insisted that the hole existed before they shipped

Re: USPS: Shipping

2016-02-01 Thread Tothwolf
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote: On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Tothwolf wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in very strong box. I've actually

PDP-11/84 (KDJ11-B) and Error 61

2016-02-01 Thread Ulrich Tagge
Hi List, I have a working 11/84, and I have decidec, to test some of my spare cards, starting with: KDJ11-B. I see the following error, when powering up the system, which points me to the Clock. >> Error 61 M8190 clock Error See troubleshooting

Re: USPS: Shipping

2016-02-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Ken Seefried wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen >>> wrote: >>> >>> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a >>>

USPS: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Seefried
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen >> wrote: >> >> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a >> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half > >Seconded. The