RE: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck > Guzis via cctalk > Sent: 06 July 2017 21:03 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking) > > On

RE: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan > Dicks via cctalk > Sent: 06 July 2017 20:02 > To: Chuck Guzis ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts > Subject: Line printer art: (was

Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Charles Anthony via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > You know, I do a fair amount of this stuff. The confidential/secret > stuff I keep that way (e.g. 100 tapes that I'm doing for NASA this > summer), but there's also a fair amount of public stuff that I do

Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Just passing it on. If anyone is interested, last I heard Devon has 2 nice printers for sale in Florida. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/06/2017 03:57 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: 11/730. > > I long to hear again the sound of the line printer that was attached > to the DECSYSTEM-20 I used to use. I think it was a drum printer but > I don't know the model (I may have some materials around that mention > the model, not

RE: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. > Blair via cctalk > Sent: 06 July 2017 23:39 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: tape baking > > > > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:34 PM,

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk > wrote: > > >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:34 PM, jim stephens via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 7/6/2017 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >>> Go figure. Perhaps nobody owns a line

RE: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis > via cctalk > Sent: 06 July 2017 23:19 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking) > > You know, I

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:34 PM, jim stephens via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 7/6/2017 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> Go figure. Perhaps nobody owns a line printer that takes continuous >> forms any more. > I'm moving a Data Products 2230 this weekend. Oooh,

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 7/6/2017 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Go figure. Perhaps nobody owns a line printer that takes continuous forms any more. I'm moving a Data Products 2230 this weekend.

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 7/6/2017 1:25 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: yup, the SAM HARBISON ones are classic, esp SPOCK http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ASCII/ I thought you had put up the Harbison tape I sent on bitsavers. If not, you can do so. Prof Harbison said he had no problem with sharing it. The tape I

Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
You know, I do a fair amount of this stuff. The confidential/secret stuff I keep that way (e.g. 100 tapes that I'm doing for NASA this summer), but there's also a fair amount of public stuff that I do have permission to share. I've done the hard work in translating the data to something

RE: DEC TRAX documentation set for sale

2017-07-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Koning > via cctalk > Sent: 06 July 2017 22:01 > To: Alan Frisbie ; General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: DEC TRAX

RE: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. > Blair via cctalk > Sent: 06 July 2017 21:46 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: tape baking > > > > On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:42 PM,

Re: DEC TRAX documentation set for sale

2017-07-06 Thread Alan Frisbie via cctalk
On 07/06/2017 02:01 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Alan Frisbie wrote: ... TRAX was designed around a modified version of RSX-11M-Plus, v1.0, yet no mention of it survives today. Indeed, a year after its announcement, it appeared to have sunk without a trace. I don't

Re: DEC TRAX documentation set for sale

2017-07-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Alan Frisbie via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > TRAX was designed around a modified version of RSX-11M-Plus, > v1.0, yet no mention of it survives today. Indeed, a year after > its announcement, it appeared to have sunk without a trace. I don't

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > I've uploaded the files to my Box account: > > https://app.box.com/s/liuljs46noaz58grdwuj170mjh66qzm8 > > I have the permission of the owner to share these. Note that many of > them depend upon

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > > Why not give baking a go then? Or have I missed something? I would of course > recommend trying with an unimportant tape first until you get a time and > temperature that works for your setup. Oh, it's on my

Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: >> It worked--I retrieved a tape of line printer art from Princeton quite >> successfully. I reviewed the ASCII copy. Several of

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
yup, the SAM HARBISON ones are classic, esp SPOCK http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ASCII/ On 7/6/17 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > It worked--I retrieved a tape of line printer art from Princeton quite > successfully. Oddly, nobody was interested in a copy of the files.

DEC TRAX documentation set for sale

2017-07-06 Thread Alan Frisbie via cctalk
Since it is doubtful that I will ever have a need for them, and I badly need the space, I am selling my TRAX documentation set on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/142437733294 or search for "TRAX" or Seller Frisbie99 This includes the five TRAX manuals that are NOT on Bitsavers. Description: In

Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/06/2017 12:41 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > I got it from the Box link. Thanks! If anyone's running Hercules or some other uses-EBCDIC emulator, here's the link to the .tap image file. https://app.box.com/s/8rxbihjjnw5zdkesym4cjwqswekufagh --Chuck

RE: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. > Blair via cctalk > Sent: 06 July 2017 17:47 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: tape baking > > > > On Jul 4, 2017, at 08:16, Al

Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > Feel free to PM me a link to where I could get a copy of these art > files or reply here with it. I got it from the Box link. Thanks! -ethan

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/06/2017 11:43 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > EBCDIC is easy, just grab an IBM Green Card. I'd recomment not using > a translation if possible, since translations are likely to be lossy. > There are EBCDIC characters that have no ASCII analog. All else being equal, I'd agree--but you

Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

2017-07-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > It worked--I retrieved a tape of line printer art from Princeton quite > successfully. Oddly, nobody was interested in a copy of the files. I'm interested! I'm about to read a card deck for an old work

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/06/2017 11:35 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > I don't have a tape cleaner. Maybe I should make one. In particular, for > those damned TK50 tapes! They do show up occasionally on eBay. Mine was NOS from a government surplus auction. Complete but for the bottle of Freon TF, but I

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 07/06/2017 11:09 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > >> Did you apply it to the whole tape prior to reading it, or did you apply it >> in place on the tape drive while reading the tape? > > The

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/06/2017 11:09 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > Did you apply it to the whole tape prior to reading it, or did you apply it > in place on the tape drive while reading the tape? The whole tape--I ran my tape cleaner at low speed and used a strip of 1/2" thick synthetic felt glued to a

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > That's what I do when baking doesn't do the trick; e.g. binder > bleed-through. But, as Al says, don't overdo it. I used a thick felt > wiper to deposit a thin film on a 2400' reel of tape. I added

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/06/2017 09:58 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > Can the cyclomethicone be used to help address sticky shed on a tape? > If it evaporates too quickly to apply it to an entire tape before > reading, then perhaps by placing a wiper in the tape path to apply it > during reading would work?

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 09:55, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 7/6/17 9:47 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: >> Maybe I could make a machine to allow me to unspool a TK50 tape while wiping >> on cyclomethicone and then re-spool it, perhaps by hacking up a drive

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/6/17 9:47 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > Maybe I could make a machine to allow me to unspool a TK50 tape while wiping > on cyclomethicone and then re-spool it, perhaps by hacking up a drive > mechanism. > It evaporates too quickly. I have also seen it dissolve binder if you use

Re: tape baking

2017-07-06 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jul 4, 2017, at 08:16, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > The 'out-gassed material' is water, which has been absorbed > by the binder, which is hydroscopic. Has anybody experimented with drying media in a vacuum chamber at room temperature? My abortive attempt to

Re: db9 requirements

2017-07-06 Thread David Brownlee via cctalk
On 6 July 2017 at 01:19, Henry Bond via cctalk wrote: > Good Evening all, hope your week is going well. > > I received a sparcstation 10 today and wondered if anyone knew which db25 > cable to get to connect to my DEC vt, null modem, cross over, etc, etc. > > Also if anyone

Re: Dobbertin 4003 Eprommer driver, moldy floppy rescue in .de?

2017-07-06 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
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