Thanks, Chuck!
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 07/06/2017 11:43 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>
> > EBCDIC is easy, just grab an IBM Green Card. I'd recomment not using
> > a translation if possible, since translations are likely to
Hello Ed,
I don't know a lot about the project or interface and am waiting to hear if it
is still available before I spend time researching it. Why would you need it to
load FOCAL?
I think I have FOCAL on paper tape if that is any use.
Regards, Baz
Sent from my iPad
I'd love to also get a copy. ASCII would be my preference.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 07/06/2017 11:09 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Did you apply it to the whole tape prior to reading it, or did you apply
> it in place
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
> Guzis via cctalk
> Sent: 06 July 2017 21:03
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>
> Subject: Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)
>
> On 07/06/2017 12:41 PM, Ethan D
> -Original Message-
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> Dicks via cctalk
> Sent: 06 July 2017 20:02
> To: Chuck Guzis ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-
> Topic Posts
> Subject: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> You know, I do a fair amount of this stuff. The confidential/secret
> stuff I keep that way (e.g. 100 tapes that I'm doing for NASA this
> summer), but there's also a fair amount of public stuff that I do hav
Just passing it on. If anyone is interested, last I heard Devon has 2
nice printers for sale in Florida.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of C
On 07/06/2017 03:57 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
11/730.
>
> I long to hear again the sound of the line printer that was attached
> to the DECSYSTEM-20 I used to use. I think it was a drum printer but
> I don't know the model (I may have some materials around that mention
> the model, not su
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
> Blair via cctalk
> Sent: 06 July 2017 23:39
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: tape baking
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:34 PM, jim stephens via cctalk
>
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:34 PM, jim stephens via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/6/2017 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>>> Go figure. Perhaps nobody owns a line printer that takes continuous
>>> forms any more.
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis
> via cctalk
> Sent: 06 July 2017 23:19
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)
>
> You know, I do a fair amount of thi
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:34 PM, jim stephens via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7/6/2017 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>> Go figure. Perhaps nobody owns a line printer that takes continuous
>> forms any more.
> I'm moving a Data Products 2230 this weekend.
Oooh, congratulations! I don't
On 7/6/2017 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Go figure. Perhaps nobody owns a line printer that takes continuous
forms any more.
I'm moving a Data Products 2230 this weekend.
On 7/6/2017 1:25 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
yup, the SAM HARBISON ones are classic, esp SPOCK
http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ASCII/
I thought you had put up the Harbison tape I sent on bitsavers. If not,
you can do so. Prof Harbison said he had no problem with sharing it.
The tape I
You know, I do a fair amount of this stuff. The confidential/secret
stuff I keep that way (e.g. 100 tapes that I'm doing for NASA this
summer), but there's also a fair amount of public stuff that I do have
permission to share. I've done the hard work in translating the data
to something recogniz
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Koning
> via cctalk
> Sent: 06 July 2017 22:01
> To: Alan Frisbie ; General Discussion: On-Topic
and
> Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: DEC TRAX documentation set for sale
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017,
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
> Blair via cctalk
> Sent: 06 July 2017 21:46
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: tape baking
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Rob Jarratt
> wrote:
> >
On 07/06/2017 02:01 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Alan Frisbie wrote:
...
TRAX was designed around a modified version of RSX-11M-Plus,
v1.0, yet no mention of it survives today. Indeed, a year after
its announcement, it appeared to have sunk without a trace.
I don't reme
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Alan Frisbie via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> TRAX was designed around a modified version of RSX-11M-Plus,
> v1.0, yet no mention of it survives today. Indeed, a year after
> its announcement, it appeared to have sunk without a trace.
I don't remember the exact timin
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I've uploaded the files to my Box account:
>
> https://app.box.com/s/liuljs46noaz58grdwuj170mjh66qzm8
>
> I have the permission of the owner to share these. Note that many of
> them depend upon first-character FORTRAN carriag
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
>
>
> Why not give baking a go then? Or have I missed something? I would of course
> recommend trying with an unimportant tape first until you get a time and
> temperature that works for your setup.
Oh, it's on my get-around-to-it list. I'll st
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>> It worked--I retrieved a tape of line printer art from Princeton quite
>> successfully.
I reviewed the ASCII copy. Several of the files, including JOHNDEAN
and MOON (I did not
yup, the SAM HARBISON ones are classic, esp SPOCK
http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ASCII/
On 7/6/17 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> It worked--I retrieved a tape of line printer art from Princeton quite
> successfully. Oddly, nobody was interested in a copy of the files.
Since it is doubtful that I will ever have a need for them,
and I badly need the space, I am selling my TRAX documentation
set on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/142437733294
or search for "TRAX" or Seller Frisbie99
This includes the five TRAX manuals that are NOT on Bitsavers.
Description:
In 19
On 07/06/2017 12:41 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> I got it from the Box link. Thanks!
If anyone's running Hercules or some other uses-EBCDIC emulator, here's
the link to the .tap image file.
https://app.box.com/s/8rxbihjjnw5zdkesym4cjwqswekufagh
--Chuck
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
> Blair via cctalk
> Sent: 06 July 2017 17:47
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: tape baking
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 2017, at 08:16, Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> Feel free to PM me a link to where I could get a copy of these art
> files or reply here with it.
I got it from the Box link. Thanks!
-ethan
On 07/06/2017 11:43 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> EBCDIC is easy, just grab an IBM Green Card. I'd recomment not using
> a translation if possible, since translations are likely to be lossy.
> There are EBCDIC characters that have no ASCII analog.
All else being equal, I'd agree--but you c
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> It worked--I retrieved a tape of line printer art from Princeton quite
> successfully. Oddly, nobody was interested in a copy of the files.
I'm interested! I'm about to read a card deck for an old work
associate who is reasonably s
On 07/06/2017 11:35 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> I don't have a tape cleaner. Maybe I should make one. In particular, for
> those damned TK50 tapes!
They do show up occasionally on eBay. Mine was NOS from a government
surplus auction. Complete but for the bottle of Freon TF, but I can
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> wrote:
> ...
>
> I would enjoy seeing the ASCII translated files. I don't have any experience
> dealing with EBCDIC-era stuff yet.
EBCDIC is easy, just grab an IBM Green Card. I'd recomment not using a
translation if possible, since t
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 07/06/2017 11:09 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Did you apply it to the whole tape prior to reading it, or did you apply it
>> in place on the tape drive while reading the tape?
>
> The whole tape--I ran my tape
On 07/06/2017 11:09 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> Did you apply it to the whole tape prior to reading it, or did you apply it
> in place on the tape drive while reading the tape?
The whole tape--I ran my tape cleaner at low speed and used a strip of
1/2" thick synthetic felt glued to a l
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> That's what I do when baking doesn't do the trick; e.g. binder
> bleed-through. But, as Al says, don't overdo it. I used a thick felt
> wiper to deposit a thin film on a 2400' reel of tape. I added more to
> the wiper about h
On 07/06/2017 09:58 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> Can the cyclomethicone be used to help address sticky shed on a tape?
> If it evaporates too quickly to apply it to an entire tape before
> reading, then perhaps by placing a wiper in the tape path to apply it
> during reading would work?
T
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 09:55, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7/6/17 9:47 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
>> Maybe I could make a machine to allow me to unspool a TK50 tape while wiping
>> on cyclomethicone and then re-spool it, perhaps by hacking up a drive
>> mechanism.
>>
>
> I
On 7/6/17 9:47 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> Maybe I could make a machine to allow me to unspool a TK50 tape while wiping
> on cyclomethicone and then re-spool it, perhaps by hacking up a drive
> mechanism.
>
It evaporates too quickly.
I have also seen it dissolve binder if you use to
> On Jul 4, 2017, at 08:16, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
> The 'out-gassed material' is water, which has been absorbed
> by the binder, which is hydroscopic.
Has anybody experimented with drying media in a vacuum chamber at room
temperature?
My abortive attempt to play with an old TK50 tape
On 6 July 2017 at 01:19, Henry Bond via cctalk wrote:
> Good Evening all, hope your week is going well.
>
> I received a sparcstation 10 today and wondered if anyone knew which db25
> cable to get to connect to my DEC vt, null modem, cross over, etc, etc.
>
> Also if anyone has experience with thi
On 7/5/17, 3:50 PM, "cctech on behalf of Alfred M. Szmidt via cctech"
wrote:
>Specially,
>
>http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Universeller_EPROM_Programmer_4004
>
>Contains both manual and software, and according to different sources
>the 4003 and 4004 should be very similar.
That comes with an i
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