Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

>That one's been around for several years. Nobody here on the east coast

>wants it. A few of us checked it out in person. Pile of junk.

At some point, doesn't the rarity of it outweigh the rough condition?  Or are 
34's just not that rare? (or collectable?)

VCF West XII updates

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

Everyone,

Online ticket sales for VCF West end this Friday night. Of course you 
can buy tickets at the gate, but you'd save time going online.


All the latest show details are available at 
http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west/.


Less than two weeks away!!!


Evan Koblentz, director
Vintage Computer Federation
a 501(c)3 educational non-profit

e...@vcfed.org
(646) 546-

www.vcfed.org
facebook.com/vcfederation
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Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

Im guessing its pottstown, PA 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats 
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near 
Austin also.
null



That one's been around for several years. Nobody here on the east coast 
wants it. A few of us checked it out in person. Pile of junk.

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Not sure if that's it or not.  I found the guy through eBay, not CraigsList.





From: cctalk  on behalf of Sam O'nella via 
cctalk 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:08 PM
To: Guy Sotomayor Jr; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

Im guessing its pottstown, PA 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats 
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near 
Austin also.
[https://images.craigslist.org/00606_9E0qJPXjP9n_600x450.jpg]

IBM system 
34
philadelphia.craigslist.org
Been in storage for probably 30 years, condition unknown, was being used when i 
got it, has system 8 floppies with , looks like auto load 8 floppie and punched 
card.---cabinet gained some rust over...



null

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Sorry about that.  The thing is in Iowa.

That's all I know, other than who's scrapping it 

Thanks!


-Ben



From: Guy Sotomayor Jr 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:39 PM
To: Benjamin Huntsman; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

Usual question.  Where is it?

TTFN - Guy

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
>  wrote:
>
> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
>
>
> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
> pick up.
>
>
> Let me know today, please.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> -Ben

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[jim stephens via cctalk]

Even if you  do have to take it to a scrap yard (skip this one, he's a 
jerk), you can take a System 34 sized system for way less than that.


I recently had a series of cleanouts @ retail prices, and if you pay 
more than $150 to do it you are getting ripped.  That would be to rent a 
U-Haul truck and their retail helpers.  I now have two guys I hired thru 
Uhaul and in a single day  I can move a 400sf storage unit.


Truck would be $29 for the day, (flat rate), and $100 / hr guys max 
price.  Drive to dump / scrapper, done.


I hope you can let the thing mellow for a while and someone can salvage 
the system.  Wrong side of the continent for me at that size though.

thanks
jim

On 7/25/2017 4:53 PM, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote:

"The scrapper wants $800"?

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Im guessing its pottstown, PA 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats 
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near 
Austin also.
null

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 7/25/17 4:53 PM, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote:
> I thought the point of going to scrap was that
> the scrapper makes money on the metals, and pays you for that privilege.

We have trouble getting ecyclers to even come here to pick stuff up.

Most of the time I have to drive stuff to Weird Stuff to get rid of it
then they turn their noses up at it when they see they aren't going to
be able to flip it in the store easily.

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Ian S. King via cctalk]

"The scrapper wants $800"?  I thought the point of going to scrap was that
the scrapper makes money on the metals, and pays you for that privilege.
Have the tables really turned so dramatically?-- Ian

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Robert via cctalk 
wrote:

> As Guy says, location will be the key to who, if anybody, can get it.
> I'd certainly be interested if it was withing a reasonable distance of
> me, though I'm not sure exactly where I'd put it...
> --
> Robert
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
>  wrote:
> > Usual question.  Where is it?
> >
> > TTFN - Guy
> >
> >> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
> >>
> >>
> >> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it
> local pick up.
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me know today, please.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Ben
> >
>



-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Robert via cctalk]

As Guy says, location will be the key to who, if anybody, can get it.
I'd certainly be interested if it was withing a reasonable distance of
me, though I'm not sure exactly where I'd put it...
-- 
Robert

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
 wrote:
> Usual question.  Where is it?
>
> TTFN - Guy
>
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
>>
>>
>> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
>> pick up.
>>
>>
>> Let me know today, please.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -Ben
>

Re: RK05 head alignment -- how difficult?

[Fritz Mueller via cctalk]

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>  http://gunkies.org/wiki/File:RK05Head.jpg
>  http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/jpg/RK05HeadRefl.jpg


Thanks, Noel, that's very helpful!  A recent picture of the upper head in my 
drive:

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~fritzm/images/pdp11/rk05-upper-head-closeup-1.jpg

Base on the pictures provided, I've a bit more gunk to scrape off somehow...

  --FritzM.

Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk]

Usual question.  Where is it?

TTFN - Guy

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone on here want a whole System/34?
> 
> 
> Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
> pick up.
> 
> 
> Let me know today, please.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -Ben

Re: ✉Re: an interesting article

[Peter Corlett via cctalk]

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 01:21:36PM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> Also, deltasoft.com DOES have an SPF record.

So it does, although my lookup earlier got a null result for some reason. The
joy of DNS resolution.

Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Anyone on here want a whole System/34?


Not mine, but I have contact details.  The scrapper wants $800 for it local 
pick up.


Let me know today, please.


Thanks.


-Ben

Re: ✉Re: an interesting article

[geneb via cctalk]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 08:33:16AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
[...]

For example, if you sent classiccmp.org an email with your "from" header
tweaked to be from ge...@deltasoft.com, the mail server will reject it
because your mail server isn't an authorized sender for the deltasoft.com
domain. If it doesn't, someone needs to give Jay a stern talkin' to. ;)


It'd be wonderful if SMTP mail worked like that, but sadly it doesn't.

In this case, deltasoft.com doesn't even have a SPF record, so the de facto
default policy applies where any mail client can send mail from that domain.
SPF is no magic bullet either, because it's often misconfigured, and a hard
rejection on SPF failure is likely to bin a lot of legitimate mail.


Actually it does.  SPF isn't magic, but it's better than nothing.
Also, deltasoft.com DOES have an SPF record.

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Re: ✉Re: an interesting article

[geneb via cctalk]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Paul Koning wrote:



It's a pretty safe assumption considering the fact that any mail admin 
worth their salt (and Jay certainly is) will have their mail systems 
configured to reject mail from non-authorized senders.  For example, if 
you sent classiccmp.org an email with your "from" header tweaked to be 
from ge...@deltasoft.com, the mail server will reject it because your 
mail server isn't an authorized sender for the deltasoft.com domain.


Maybe so, but in this case 30 seconds of inspection of the original 
message headers makes it very clear that the sending email string is a 
forgery.


JAY!  You broke the MTA again! ;)

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Re: ✉Re: an interesting article

[allison via cctalk]

For those of us with robust well protected systems (or disposable 
machine running in VM) the URL is for a papers (as in assignments) for a 
price site.   The first page is fairly safe but its a malware site.



Allison

On 7/25/17 11:39 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:

On Jul 25, 2017, at 11:33 AM, geneb via cctalk  wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Paul Koning wrote:


On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:50 AM, geneb via cctalk  wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Leigh Paulson via cctalk wrote:


Hey!


I've just found that article and thought it might be really helpful to you, you 
may find it here http://coffeesystem.malware/principal.php?4647


Warm regards, Leigh Paulson

Jay, I'll take "EMail Accounts That Have Been Comprimised" for $200.

Be careful with that assumption.  It is very common for criminal email to have 
forged source addresses.  Just like it's common for criminal phone calls to 
have forged caller IDs.  A look at the routing headers will often give you a 
clue; most of the time the source of the message is some nameless third world 
computer nowhere close to the server responsible for the faked sender address.

It's a pretty safe assumption considering the fact that any mail admin worth their salt 
(and Jay certainly is) will have their mail systems configured to reject mail from 
non-authorized senders.  For example, if you sent classiccmp.org an email with your 
"from" header tweaked to be from ge...@deltasoft.com, the mail server will 
reject it because your mail server isn't an authorized sender for the deltasoft.com 
domain.

Maybe so, but in this case 30 seconds of inspection of the original message 
headers makes it very clear that the sending email string is a forgery.

paul

Replacement key caps for LK201

[Aaron Jackson via cctalk]

Hi all,

At our department we have few DEC LK201s boards with missing keycaps. In
particular, a couple of the blank F-keys and a compose key. For some
reason every LK201 I see seems to have a missing cap or two. Can anyone
help us out? Happy to pay, but nothing extortionate.

Thanks,

Aaron.

--
Aaron Jackson
PhD Student, Computer Vision Laboratory, Uni of Nottingham
http://aaronsplace.co.uk

Re: ✉Re: an interesting article

[Peter Corlett via cctalk]

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 08:33:16AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> For example, if you sent classiccmp.org an email with your "from" header
> tweaked to be from ge...@deltasoft.com, the mail server will reject it
> because your mail server isn't an authorized sender for the deltasoft.com
> domain. If it doesn't, someone needs to give Jay a stern talkin' to. ;)

It'd be wonderful if SMTP mail worked like that, but sadly it doesn't.

In this case, deltasoft.com doesn't even have a SPF record, so the de facto
default policy applies where any mail client can send mail from that domain.
SPF is no magic bullet either, because it's often misconfigured, and a hard
rejection on SPF failure is likely to bin a lot of legitimate mail.

Re: ✉Re: an interesting article

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:50 AM, geneb via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Leigh Paulson via cctalk wrote:
> 
>> Hey!
>> 
>> 
>> I've just found that article and thought it might be really helpful to you, 
>> you may find it here http://coffeesystem.malware/principal.php?4647
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards, Leigh Paulson
> 
> Jay, I'll take "EMail Accounts That Have Been Comprimised" for $200.

Be careful with that assumption.  It is very common for criminal email to have 
forged source addresses.  Just like it's common for criminal phone calls to 
have forged caller IDs.  A look at the routing headers will often give you a 
clue; most of the time the source of the message is some nameless third world 
computer nowhere close to the server responsible for the faked sender address.

paul

Computer History wiki - images needed!

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

So for those who aren't up to writing text, if images are 'your thing', we
could definitely use you! E.g I have added a large number of PDP-11-related
pages, but I'm mostly too lazy to do images, and there are dozens of pages
which need them.

Again, if you'd like an account, let me know, and I can set it up. Thanks!

   Noel

Re: Run/Stop switch from a Soviet S/370 clone

[Liam Proven via cctalk]

On 23 July 2017 at 20:20, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Well, they are obviously not public if you have to have an account to see 
> them.  :-)

Just in case anyone is interested, I have listed one disk-pack cover
on eBay. Starting bid GBP 0.01 -- one penny. No account needed to
view, but one is needed to bid.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272774029874

I've also listed some 8" disk boxes if anyone wants them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272774014688

Again, £0.01.

Happy to post both items at cost price to ClassicCmp list members.

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