Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/30/2017 10:31 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 09/30/2017 06:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Ahh, but the genius is built into the heads! Note that nobody recorded 800 BPI on 7-track tapes. I think they supported 200 and 556 BPI, only. There were some low-density 9-track tapes, but generall

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/30/2017 06:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Ahh, but the genius is built into the heads! Note that nobody > recorded 800 BPI on 7-track tapes. I think they supported 200 and 556 > BPI, only. There were some low-density 9-track tapes, but generally > most 9-tk tapes were 800 BPI. Say what? We ce

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/30/2017 12:47 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: What I found a little surprising is that on a 7970 head assembly, the DC resistance of the 9 track coils is about 76 ohms, but on the 7 track side, the resistance measures out to about 27 ohms. Yet, both feed into the same read amplifiers. O

Re: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-30 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/30/2017 04:12 PM, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: > I think Chuck has it backwards, AT Attachment as defined by the ANSI > committee publically predates IDE. Although IDE was used internally at WD > it did not surface publically until well after the ANSI committee adopted AT > Attachment, abbr

RE: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: I think Chuck has it backwards, AT Attachment as defined by the ANSI committee publically predates IDE. Although IDE was used internally at WD it did not surface publically until well after the ANSI committee adopted AT Attachment, abbreviated A

RE: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-30 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
I think Chuck has it backwards, AT Attachment as defined by the ANSI committee publically predates IDE. Although IDE was used internally at WD it did not surface publically until well after the ANSI committee adopted AT Attachment, abbreviated ATA. The AT in AT Attachment or ATA has never stood f

Norton Utilities on 8"?

2017-09-30 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
All –     I’m in the process or restoring a Seattle Gazelle for the Vintage Computer Federation and one of the disks that it came with had “Norton Utilities” written on it. I’ve imaged the disk but I’m not entirely sure what system it was for, and the directory seems to be scramb

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk > wrote: > > fre 2017-09-29 klockan 12:52 -0400 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk: >> ... >> The approach would be somewhat similar to the disk support in SIMH, which >> does already have "RAW" as one of the formats, meaning direct access

Baltimore Area Collector Liquidating

2017-09-30 Thread Fran Smith via cctalk
Hiya, Ok its time to get rid of more stuff from my "Stash" A mostly complete Decmate with the RX02 pedestal A complete Next slab system with display and laser printer. A complete IBM Aptiva with original boxes 2 Vaxstation 4000 Model 60's A huge pile of Dec Professional 380's A huge pile of Vaxs

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
What I found a little surprising is that on a 7970 head assembly, the DC resistance of the 9 track coils is about 76 ohms, but on the 7 track side, the resistance measures out to about 27 ohms. Yet, both feed into the same read amplifiers. On the standard 7970 dual-mode drives, the switching betw

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/30/2017 06:58 AM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: One of my tape drives has a set of equal-value resistors connected to each of the read channels, the others ends of the resistors being brought out to a testpoint. You connect a 'scope there and read a skewmaster tape. The idea is that if the

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
fre 2017-09-29 klockan 12:52 -0400 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk: > > On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > On 09/29/2017 10:56 AM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On a related note my plan is to make a USB-based, Pertec-compatible > >> contr

Re: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-30 Thread allison via cctalk
On 09/29/2017 06:42 PM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 01:08:24PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> On 09/29/2017 11:20 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > [...] >>> Older BIOS firmware provided no means for the user to define the geometry of >>> a connected drive - j

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Hi Chuck, How did you program compile if you were missing a semicolon? I'm assuming you're programming in C and not scripting it somehow... Good news on that front! Was it typical to read a record(s) in reverse if an error was encountered? Sounds like that might require buffering the whole record

Tandy Assembly

2017-09-30 Thread Peter Cetinski via cctalk
Only one week to go until the inaugural Tandy Assembly event in Chillicothe, OH. We’ve been planning this for over a year and it’s exciting to finally see it coming together. We’ll have exhibits and presentations covering all of the Tandy computers, from the TRS-80 Model I to the Tandy 6000.

Re: HP 7970E - interest to split?

2017-09-30 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Still a few too many read errors for my taste, so this weekend is going > to be a session with a 'scope and alignment tape. I think I've got a > way to adjust skew--just hook a logic analyzer probe to each channel and > set the LA

Re: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-30 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 01:08:24PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> On 09/29/2017 11:20 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: [...] >> Older BIOS firmware provided no means for the user to define the geometry of >> a connected drive - just a list of predefined types, and those often maxed >> out at