WTB : Card extender for HP 21xx ( Fit from 2116 to 21MX )

2019-02-04 Thread GerardCJAT via cctalk
All is in the title. An other very long shoot, isn't it ? ;-)

WTB : CTL, CTuL 9956 ??

2019-02-04 Thread GerardCJAT via cctalk
This is a (very ) long shoot ! I am looking for ( Fairchild ? ) CTL / CTuL 9956 chips. Anyone ? Thanks.

HP 1000 L series, parts available, anyone ??

2019-02-04 Thread GerardCJAT via cctalk
I own a HP 1000 L series 200 Cards are badly corroded at connectors level BUT some other parts are in very good shape. I can offer, HP "special SoS" processors: 1AA6-60004, 1AC5, 1AB5, 1AF5 ( - 60001 ) The set of (3) Eprom I cannot image them, but I am willing to send them to

Re: Mounting HP7970e 9-Trk 1/2" Tape Drive

2019-02-04 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2019-Feb-04, at 3:40 PM, Jack Harper via cctalk wrote: > > I am mounting a couple of heavy (130-pounds each) HP7970e tape drives to a > 19" rack. > > The screw holes that mate to the standard spaced holes on the right side of > the drive after you open the case are visible and obvious. > >

Re: Mounting HP7970e 9-Trk 1/2" Tape Drive

2019-02-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/4/19 3:40 PM, Jack Harper via cctalk wrote: > > > Greetings to the List - > > I am mounting a couple of heavy (130-pounds each) HP7970e tape drives to > a 19" rack. > > The screw holes that mate to the standard spaced holes on the right side > of the drive after you open the case are

Re: Looking for Limited Function Board

2019-02-04 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
I have a few of the limited function and programmers panels. I do not recall either of them being dependent on particular backplane. I'll try to pull a few a few later and check the part number on them. Remember, a 54-X number can become a 70-X with the addition of a cable or something

RE: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Yep, I noticed that, but thought it was a idea you might want to explore and it’s simple enough to do. Without the full output from the ls command and how it was executed I was just throwing it out there. For instance, was the default dir where ls was run, the same dir as when the

Mounting HP7970e 9-Trk 1/2" Tape Drive

2019-02-04 Thread Jack Harper via cctalk
Greetings to the List - I am mounting a couple of heavy (130-pounds each) HP7970e tape drives to a 19" rack. The screw holes that mate to the standard spaced holes on the right side of the drive after you open the case are visible and obvious. However, the holes on the left are hidden

RE: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Noel, it might be a wonky filesystem. I’ve had ls -l seg fault because of bad attribute data on a file in a directory on Solaris. Interestingly, ls (without the -l) worked okay. Maybe fsck or the equivalent command may show something. It was a Solaris system with many concurrent users so I

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/04/2019 11:34 AM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: 2. Make a copy of ls, and see if the copy also fails (different location on disk would mess with timing just a bit). Also done; the copy appears to behave identically to the original. OK, here's a really complicated thing to try.

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/04/2019 11:20 AM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: The MMU classifies the error in register SR0; this decodes to a segment length error (access within the segment beyond configured bound). As Noel notes, however, this is not consistent with the instructions we see at the point of

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
eg: What is the structure of the "Header Case Information" block? The E01 would be adequate (barely), if accompanied by an additional "metadata" file that describes the physical format.  (In much more detail than just "IBM PC 360K", etc.)  For MOST situations, OS, encoding, bytes per sector,

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
And, of course, a lossy compression, such as MP4 leaves room for an enormous amount of steganographic data, with documants and data hidden in porn. (MANY different MP4 files will still play the same movie) On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, John Foust via cctalk wrote: That would be a very sneaky criminal

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Fritz Mueller > I've had a bit of time in front of the machine to repro this and take a > look. What I actually see is: > R0 10 > R1 0 > R2 0 > R3 0 > R4 0 > R5 34 > R6 141774 > PC 000254 Argh. (Very red face!) I worked out the trap stack

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/4/19 3:40 PM, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > Did someone say "punched cards ... with steganographic bits in chads that > are only attached along a couple of edges"? NCR CRAM?

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
Did someone say "punched cards ... with steganographic bits in chads that are only attached along a couple of edges"? On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:36 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 2/4/19 3:22 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > > At 04:49 PM 2/4/2019, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> And,

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/4/19 3:22 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 04:49 PM 2/4/2019, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> And, of course, a lossy compression, such as MP4 leaves room for an enormous >> amount of steganographic data, with documants and data hidden in porn. >> (MANY different MP4 files will still

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/4/19 2:49 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Well, conversion between E01 and IMD or teledisk formats looks > straightforward. > > http://www.forensicsware.com/blog/e01-file-format.html > Is there a better description handy? > > eg: What is the structure of the "Header Case Information"

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
>>> The obvious answer is bad memory. >> >> At the board level, yes. Deeper, it could be bad memory bits or bad >> memory decode. > > Yes, one of the standard early PDP-11 memory tests is the "no duplicate > address test". I should say that the memory board is not _completely_ whack -- it

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 2:28 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > I'm pretty sure the command only gets a few instructions in before it blows > up. Here are the process' registers, and the _entire_ contents of the user > mode stack: > > R0 10 > R1 0 > R2 0 > R3 0 > R4 34 > R5 444 > SP

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 04:49 PM 2/4/2019, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >And, of course, a lossy compression, such as MP4 leaves room for an enormous >amount of steganographic data, with documants and data hidden in porn. (MANY >different MP4 files will still play the same movie) That would be a very sneaky

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:15 PM Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: >>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk >>> wrote: >> That translates into "the problem depends on the physical address of the >> code being executed". >>

Re: E01 (Was: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Based on my conversations with clients, the problem is not the equipment, but rather the lack of an open, vetted and documented file format. As an example, customers of mine insist on a "forensic" image file of type E01 (Encase format), which

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:15 PM Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > > wrote: > That translates into "the problem depends on the physical address of the code > being executed". > > The obvious answer is bad memory. At the board level, yes.

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 2/4/2019 11:34 AM, Fritz Mueller via cctech wrote: > >> On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> >> If he hasn't already, if Fritz has more than one memory board, he might >> try swapping them to see if that changes anything. > > I only have an 128kw MS11-L here to work with,

Re: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/4/19 1:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > Yes, but if the current format is wrong for the job, and people who should > know better do not realize this, it would be a good idea (as a separate > activity) to educate them and propose a better answer. Yes, I know, and I've tried and written volumes

Re: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > Based on my conversations with clients, the problem is not the > equipment, but rather the lack of an open, vetted and documented file > format. > > As an example, customers of mine insist on a "forensic" image file of

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Wayne S > >> it might be a wonky filesystem. ... >> The corruption probably came because the entire disk was going bad. > > This theory is contradicted by the fact (mentioned several times, including in > the message

Re: Raspberry Pi floppy interface.

2019-02-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/18/19 7:40 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > This looks like a project with a ton of potential for archviving media > without having to deal with the asshattery of the kryoflux people. > > https://github.com/picosonic/bbc-fdc Yes, you can do this, as I've said many times before, with just about

RE: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Wayne S > it might be a wonky filesystem. ... > The corruption probably came because the entire disk was going bad. This theory is contradicted by the fact (mentioned several times, including in the message you were replying to) that doing a plain 'ls' bombs, but 'sleep 300

Re: Looking for Limited Function Board

2019-02-04 Thread Anders Sandahl via cctalk
> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:22:42 +0100 > From: Pontus Pihlgren > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > > Subject: Looking for Limited Function Board > Message-ID: <20190203212242.gf24...@update.uu.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi > > I'm restoring

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jay Jaeger > This sort of situation, where DEC diagnostics run OK but UNIX has issues > was reported to be not all that uncommon - to the point where the urban > legend was that some DEC FE's would fire up Unix V6 as a sort of system > exerciser. Amusing! Never heard

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:35 AM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > The spec says allowed tolerances are +/- 5%. He knew the reality for > correct operation was -0%, +5%, so he tweaked all the supplies to read a > hair above nominal. > Ah, the good old days... I recall

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > >> On Feb 4, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Bob Smith via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> I keep wondering about the psu. > > Good theory. I'll give these a double-check... > Is there any way to attach a logic analyzer to various data paths on

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Bob Smith via cctalk > wrote: > > I keep wondering about the psu. I just recall the /45 in my lab was > always a little flakey. > We suspected everything in the machine, and it was ak to chasing a sea > bat in the dark. Good theory. In RSTS development we

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jon Elson > Does the MMU classify what the error condition was Yes, there are a series of bits in SSR0 to indicate the particular error: 'non-resident', 'length', 'read-only', etc (and also the segment number the error's from). As my message mentioned, we're seeing the 'length'

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > If he hasn't already, if Fritz has more than one memory board, he might > try swapping them to see if that changes anything. I only have an 128kw MS11-L here to work with, unfortunately. Its been through a bunch of recent troubleshooting

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
Hi all; thanks for the write-up on the issue, Noel! > On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > Is this truly a fault given by the memory management system, or some other > kind of fault (Unibus timeout or memory parity error)? Trap 250, which is explicitly memory

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
I keep wondering about the psu. I just recall the /45 in my lab was always a little flakey. We suspected everything in the machine, and it was ak to chasing a sea bat in the dark. Our environment in ML 1-2 was not the best, the floor actually moved, we were right at the mid building elevator. We

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 2/4/2019 10:20 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 02/04/2019 04:28 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: >> >> First oddity - the problem is dependent on the location of the command >> in main >> memory! If Fritz says "sleep 360 &", to run a trivial command in the >> background, and _then_ says

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/04/2019 04:28 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: So I've been helping Fritz look into his -11/45 problem, and things have gotten to a point where I'd like to reach out for help, more eyes, etc. OH, does this machine have a cache? We had a /45, and got a cache module for it. It

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/04/2019 04:28 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: First oddity - the problem is dependent on the location of the command in main memory! If Fritz says "sleep 360 &", to run a trivial command in the background, and _then_ says 'ls' - it works (so we know the binary of 'ls' on disk is OK)!

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-04 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
So I've been helping Fritz look into his -11/45 problem, and things have gotten to a point where I'd like to reach out for help, more eyes, etc. I have to say, I spent almost a decade at the start of my career working on PDP-11 hardware ('new build' DMA devices, as well as fixing broken stuff),