Re: apollo psa test point adaptor

2019-05-18 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
These are sturdy and notoriously expensive aerospace grade 38999 connectors. We 
had to slightly machine modern 38999’s male plugs to fit in these, but by in 
large it still fits the modern standard. I have one of the PSA trays it 
connects to, trying to make it work again! Nice and noble hardware it is.
Marc

> On May 18, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> anyone know where i could find manual or drawings on this im up in northern
> manitoba canada picked it up at a rr auction to experiment with as a audio
> interface not sure if the jacks on the side are the weird pins nasa had or
> another standard i can find?
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/albums/72157705166193482


apollo psa test point adaptor

2019-05-18 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
anyone know where i could find manual or drawings on this im up in northern
manitoba canada picked it up at a rr auction to experiment with as a audio
interface not sure if the jacks on the side are the weird pins nasa had or
another standard i can find?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/albums/72157705166193482


Re: 11/93 Rebuild

2019-05-18 Thread Mark G Thomas via cctalk
Rod, others,

I have so far been unsuccessful getting my CQD220A for SCSI HD, and RQDX3 for 
floppy to coexist in an 11/83, at least with bsd2.11.  I am eager to hear 
whether you get both controllers working in the same box, and how.

Mark

Mark G. Thomas (m...@misty.com), KC3DRE

> On May 18, 2019, at 15:10, Rod Smallwood via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys
> 
>Well the RD53 in my 11/93 finally clapped out.
> 
>The CPU is a late model KDJ11-E with everything on the one board.
> 
>So its a switch from MFM to SCSI Drives.
> 
>A CQD220A will drive the hard disk and the RQDX3 will stay to look 
> after the RX50
> 
>I've  put the Hard Drive on the primary CSR address (17772150) and I 
> will shift the RQDX3 to an alternate CSR
> 
>Comments as to if this is the right way round and what CSR's to use 
> for the two controllers invited.
> 
>   Rod
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 



Re: HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

2019-05-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

t-shits form those picnic events.


On Sat, 18 May 2019, ED SHATTNER via cctalk wrote:
HP-01 calc watch go-withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who 
else collecting?
We have a   few   spare   items    has  anyone  put  
together  a  checklist  of   go-withs?
Apparently  there  was a   series  of   picnics and  t-shits  
that  came  form those  events.


Drop    us  a  note  off list -- 
 Thanks  Ed#
(Fondly  remembering the  days   Jerry and  I  would  shake  our  HP-01s  at  
each other at   3000  meetings...)


Re: HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

2019-05-18 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk


> On May 18, 2019 at 3:32 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> 
>  a   series  of   picnics and  t-shits


I find you those often come as a set


"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to 
add, but when there is nothing left to take away." --  Antoine de Saint-Exupery


"The names of global variables should start with    // "  -- https://isocpp.org


HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

2019-05-18 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
HP-01 calc watch go-withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else 
collecting? 

We have a   few   spare   items    has  anyone  put  together  a  checklist  of 
  go-withs?
Apparently  there  was a   series  of   picnics and  t-shits  that  came  form 
those  events.

Drop    us  a  note  off list --  
  Thanks  Ed# 
(Fondly  remembering the  days   Jerry and  I  would  shake  our  HP-01s  at  
each other at   3000  meetings...)


11/93 Rebuild

2019-05-18 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk

Hi Guys

   Well the RD53 in my 11/93 finally clapped out.

   The CPU is a late model KDJ11-E with everything on the one board.

   So its a switch from MFM to SCSI Drives.

   A CQD220A will drive the hard disk and the RQDX3 will stay to 
look after the RX50


   I've  put the Hard Drive on the primary CSR address (17772150) 
and I will shift the RQDX3 to an alternate CSR


   Comments as to if this is the right way round and what CSR's to 
use for the two controllers invited.


  Rod


--




Re: "industrial" PDP-11

2019-05-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 5/18/19 8:56 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
>  From: Paul Anderson
> 
>  > They did make the RT100, RT340, etc. which were rugidized versions or
>  > the VTs.
> 
> We also ran into a VT52 (I think, although possibly it was a VT100) which
> apparently had been TEMPEST secured; the inside of the casing had been
> coated with a metallic film. (Or perhaps it was built to operate in
> an environment with a high E-M radiation level, and kept stuff out, not
> in.) I don't recall anything else about it now, alas - it's been almost
> 40 years!

H...  Every VT100 I ever saw the inside of (not a lot, but a
bunch) had the EMI coating on the inside.  I always assumed it was
to meet FCC spurious emissions requirements.  Definitely not enough
to meet TEMPEST requirements.

bill



Re: Tape seals?

2019-05-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/18/19 8:25 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/18/19 7:33 AM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote:
> 
>> Is there any outfit that sells "new tape seals"? Or a preferred better way 
>> to hang tapes in 2019?
> 
> FWIW, IBM auto-load hard plastic seems to be holding up better, you might be 
> able to find a small
> quantity of those around.
> 
> Failing that, late era crappy tape might be found, and the seals scavenged 
> though the price is
> probably prohibative.


Exactly.  After cruising for about a year or so, looking for tape seal
replacements, I decided that none were to be had.  Not even the few
places that still sell NOS tapes had any to spare for any price.  And
any old stock is likely to be deteriorating.  I suspect that no new tape
seals have been produced in the last 20 years.

After doing more investigation, I settled on 800' 16mm film cans made
for archival preservation.  There appear to be two types (I have samples
of both)--one vented and the other not. This makes sense as a lot of
acetate-based film stock was manufactured and, as it decays, gives off
acetic acid, which, unless removed, further corrupts the film base.

Of course, if you have the old Wright-Line style of tape racks, you
can't hang film cans.

Fortunately, all of the magnetic tape that I've seen is mylar-based,
which doesn't have the problem, so no venting is necessary.  Magtape
issues are mostly due to deterioration of the tape binder, for which
"baking" can go a long way to at least temporarily remedy.

Both types of film cans are made from polypropylene, as far as I can
tell, so they're probably good for my lifetime, at least. A 10.5" reel
of tape fits quite nicely, such that no additional support is needed.

Larry Urbanski seems to have the best price on the cans, about $5.75
each, but he'll negotiate for quantity.

There may be better solutions, but I haven't come up with one yet.  It's
a bit funny; I can remember when the tape seal adoption was causing
dumpster-loads of hard plastic tape cases to be scrapped.  The cases
that remain tend to be intact, even after 50 years.

--Chuck






Re: Kaur Collection Inventory

2019-05-18 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
Hi Adam,

2307 is an LA30-P (the parallel version of the LA30), like the ones restored by 
Herb, Mattis, and myself:

http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/decwriter.html
http://www.datormuseum.se/computers/digital-equipment-corporation/pdp-11-04 
(scroll down 3/4)
http://fritzm.github.io/la30-4.html

  --FritzM.




Re: Tape seals?

2019-05-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 5/18/19 7:33 AM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote:

> Is there any outfit that sells "new tape seals"? Or a preferred better way to 
> hang tapes in 2019?

FWIW, IBM auto-load hard plastic seems to be holding up better, you might be 
able to find a small
quantity of those around.

Failing that, late era crappy tape might be found, and the seals scavenged 
though the price is
probably prohibative.






Re: Tape seals?

2019-05-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 5/18/19 7:33 AM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote:

> Is there any outfit that sells "new tape seals"?

nope

Chuck just went through this and decided to use film canisters




ISO Network General Sniffer 5.x manual set

2019-05-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I've been working on archiving two Sniffers (ethernet and wan) and
was wondering if anyone had a spare manual set. I have access to a
set, but it is bound and would have to be scanned a page at a time



Tape seals?

2019-05-18 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
Just a reminder: "Tape seal" is a generic name (or defunct trademark?) for the 
wrap-around plastic tape hanger for half-inch magtape reels. There's a flexible 
white (soft plastic) or beige (hard plastic) belt with a clamp (sometimes 
black) and a hanger. They usually had a little place to put a label in them 
too. They usually came with a new reel of tape but you could also buy them by 
themselves.


20 years ago I had thousands of 9-tracks hanging from decaying tape seals. 
Every couple days I would find a couple of tapes dropped to the floor and their 
tape seal broken. At the time it was no problem to find surplus tapes with 
recent tape seals to rehang them, and tape seals were still available new. Most 
of mine came from Southern California where I think the ozone in the atmosphere 
severely limited useful life of the plastics.


Here in 2019 I only have a few dozen tapes and few remaining tape seals. I 
suspect any source I found of tape seals would be selling 20-year old tape 
seals.


Is there any outfit that sells "new tape seals"? Or a preferred better way to 
hang tapes in 2019? It wouldn't surprise me if an archivist told me hanging 
tapes was the wrong way to store them but I never have really noticed 
(temperature/humidity changes seem to be a way bigger problem than storage 
orientation).


P.S. Yes all these tapes were imaged decades ago. Not really sure why I still 
have them around unless say I need to boot a PDP-11 or VAX OS from 9-track 
which I guess hasn't happened in at least a decade for me.


Tim N3QE


Re: "industrial" PDP-11

2019-05-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Tempest VT100 are generally marked VT100 TEMPEST on the front tag.

--
Will

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 8:57 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> From: Paul Anderson
>
> > They did make the RT100, RT340, etc. which were rugidized versions or
> > the VTs.
>
> We also ran into a VT52 (I think, although possibly it was a VT100) which
> apparently had been TEMPEST secured; the inside of the casing had been
> coated with a metallic film. (Or perhaps it was built to operate in
> an environment with a high E-M radiation level, and kept stuff out, not
> in.) I don't recall anything else about it now, alas - it's been almost
> 40 years!
>
> Noel


Re: "industrial" PDP-11

2019-05-18 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
From: Paul Anderson

> They did make the RT100, RT340, etc. which were rugidized versions or
> the VTs.

We also ran into a VT52 (I think, although possibly it was a VT100) which
apparently had been TEMPEST secured; the inside of the casing had been
coated with a metallic film. (Or perhaps it was built to operate in
an environment with a high E-M radiation level, and kept stuff out, not
in.) I don't recall anything else about it now, alas - it's been almost
40 years!

Noel


Re: Kaur Collection Inventory

2019-05-18 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Ed Cross

> I saw a mystery PDP-11 in the garage that I believe to be an 11/70. 

Yeah, I think so; someone has transplanted a few red/purple toggles into it
(perhaps some of the original blues got broken), but it's a /70 front panel,
which won't (without major kludging/surgery) work on any other model.

Without pictures of the insides of the main pull-out bay, and any others
(there should be at least one, for the main memory) it's impossible to
say how complete a system it is; -11/70 CPU boards are easy to find, though.

> please help identify what I took pictures of. 

A couple of things I hoticed quickly: 2349 shows a PR05 high-speed paper tape
reader (like the PC05, but reader-only), and 2325 a CR11 card reader (a
Documation unit re-badged by DEC).


My impression from looking at it all is that it's a huge pile of stuff, and
some is probably just junk that should go to the scrappers.

Their process, with the lawyer, is probably too top-heavy for a lot of the
smaller items (e.g. 2387 shows a partial PDP-11 front panel which might be of
some interest - e.g. I'd buy it if it showed up on eBait). Perhaps some
one/group who is local can take everything that's left, after the main items
(e.g. the VAX 750 - those are rare, I'm sure someone will scoop that up) are
picked out, as a cheap lot, and sort out the good bits and put them up on
eBait, and scrap the crap.

> I hope this is useful to folks.

Yes, very; thanks very much for putting in the effort.

Noel