CDC CYBER 170 Consoles

2020-07-14 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I have been working on CDC CYBER 170 mainframes between 1977 and 1988. In 2002 I wrote an open-source emulator for the CDC 6000 and CYBER series (see my website http://www.control-data.info/). In 2013 I also developed the open-source VHDL firmware emulating the console controller for these

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On Jul 14, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Ali via cctech wrote: > I think Dave hit it on the head. The Smart Array controllers apparently only > take HDDs and no other SCSI devices. Not all of them. But it is a model-by-model "feature", and maybe not at all on any models prior to some generation. I have

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
This? The complete Star Ship: A simulation project (DP series in games ; no. 1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/091839810X/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_mzMdFbMVV3YHH I actually have this book somewhere. I also remember a thinner one with a highly-colored cover. Get Outlook for iOS

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
Agreed, this sounds like a ton of fun to implement. --Jason On 7/14/20 6:45 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: I’d love details on this! This sounds vaguely like a game I played on a Harris Minicomputer in the late 80’s. Zane On Jul 14, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: If I am

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
I’d love details on this! This sounds vaguely like a game I played on a Harris Minicomputer in the late 80’s. Zane > On Jul 14, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > > > If I am not mistaken, I have a book called Star Trek and it is from Dilithium > Press! > Memory is a bit vague,

RE: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Nope. I don’t remember any Smart Array controllers supporting > passthrough tapes until much later on. You just need a Wide Ultra 2 or > 3 adapter for libraries, eg 154457-B21. There’s no mention of tape > support in the install manual either. > Thanks. I actually needed a dual port beasty so

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/14/20 12:41 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: I know you can define a JBOD but a JBOD is not passed through as a physical disk. JBOD / single disk RAID 0 is different than pass through. I've worked with a few RAID cards that did support actual pass-through mode. I've not had any problems

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 14 Jul 2020, at 18:47, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > This may be a bit too new for this list but I thought what the heck - maybe > one of you Compaq/DEC/HP guys would know: > > Is there any reason a Smart Array controller can't be used as a simple SCSI > controller? I.E. No array, just

RE: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Ali > Sent: 14 July 2020 20:22 > To: 'Dave Wade' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller > > > Ali, > > Its been a long time, but I think the answer is no. A tape is not a

RE: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Can you move one HDD to the SMARTarray (to make it happy) and put the > tape library on the 5304? > > My concern is that some RAID cards don't like to present things other > than (logical / virtual) hard drives to the host OS. So I'm not sure > if > the tape drive will work connected to it or

RE: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Ali, > Its been a long time, but I think the answer is no. A tape is not a > disk and > uses a different SCSI command set to a disk. For example you can't > rewind a > disk. > > I found a SmartArray 3200 manual here:- > > http://index-of.es/Tutorials/Proliant%201600/SmartArray3200.pdf > > and

RE: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Henk Gooijen via cctalk
If I am not mistaken, I have a book called Star Trek and it is from Dilithium Press! Memory is a bit vague, but it must be on one of my shelves. The book describes in “FORTRAN style” the procedures for an NCC1701 simulator  But if you dig deeper, there is * a lot * to do yourself. Anyway, this

RE: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Ali, Its been a long time, but I think the answer is no. A tape is not a disk and uses a different SCSI command set to a disk. For example you can't rewind a disk. I found a SmartArray 3200 manual here:- http://index-of.es/Tutorials/Proliant%201600/SmartArray3200.pdf and in the Q it says :- Q.

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
Yes, I spent a good amount of my time at CMU in the late 70's re- writing the TOPS-10 version of that compiler with a new P-Code definition so that the target code could be run efficiently on small machines. I did the original work to target the PDP-11s on C.MMP. I still have the compiler

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/14/20 12:08 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: Thanks. To be clear there are no HDDs connected to the controller (there is a separate 5304 controller that has all the HDDs on it). I just did not have enough external ports on the 5304 to drive the tape library so I wanted to repurpose the original

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > The term "p-code" comes from the 1973 Pascal-P version of UCSD Pascal. > "p-code" does come from Pascal-P, but Pascal-P wasn't a version of UCSD Pascal. Pascal-P was developed on the CDC 6600 in 1972. UCSD

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:37 AM dwight via cctalk wrote: > I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it. > There's no formal definition of "p-code". Although other similar "bytecodes" existed before, the term "p-code" or "pcode" came from the earliest implementations of

RE: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Ali via cctalk
> All the Smart Array controllers, to my knowledge, have the ability to > run as a JBOD, so I imagine that would work. The biggest issue I've > found with older SA controllers, is getting them configured (and driver > support for really old ones on modern OSes). Jason, Thanks. To be clear there

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Frank McConnell via cctalk > wrote: > > Y'all may want to take an hour to listen to this. I haven’t. The text at > least names someone as co-founder. > > https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-293-merl-miller-dilithium-press > > -Frank McConnell

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/14/2020 6:53 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > Out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about this publisher? They > > apparently existed in the late 70’s and early 80’s. They were apparently > > located in

Re: Getting files off a 7300

2020-07-14 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
> One oddity: The system came up but was faulting out on ports tty1 and 2. > Editing /etc/inittab fixed that, but the system *does* have a two serial > port card expansion module. Wonder if the modules have to be in specific > slots or something... > The UnixPC uses geographic addressing (like an

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
On 7/14/20 10:47 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote: This may be a bit too new for this list but I thought what the heck - maybe one of you Compaq/DEC/HP guys would know: Is there any reason a Smart Array controller can't be used as a simple SCSI controller? I.E. No array, just using it to drive a tape

Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-14 Thread Ali via cctalk
This may be a bit too new for this list but I thought what the heck - maybe one of you Compaq/DEC/HP guys would know: Is there any reason a Smart Array controller can't be used as a simple SCSI controller? I.E. No array, just using it to drive a tape library? TIA! -Ali

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:21, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/14/2020 6:53 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > Out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about this publisher? They > > apparently existed in the late 70’s and early 80’s. They were apparently > > located in

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk
On 7/14/2020 6:53 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > Out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about this publisher? They apparently existed in the late 70’s and early 80’s. They were apparently located in Beaverton, Oregon in the same business park, on Nimbus, where Norvac Electronics was.

Re: Getting files off a 7300

2020-07-14 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
You might be able to use a terminal to pull/push files via the serial port. Log in using the "install" user (password = blank/none) and work your way to the Hardware setup window. From there find the RS232 section and if necessary change NONE to TERMINAL. With a null modem adapter plug a serial

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 7/14/20 8:37 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it. > Dwight The term "p-code" comes from the 1973 Pascal-P version of UCSD Pascal. There is disagreement as to what the "p" stands for--"portable" or "pseudo". In any case, the

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2020-07-14 11:37 a.m., dwight via cctalk wrote: >> I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it. >> Dwight >> > > The first thing that comes to mind is UCSD P-system, but some people > probably

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2020-07-14 11:37 a.m., dwight via cctalk wrote: > I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it. > Dwight > The first thing that comes to mind is UCSD P-system, but some people probably mean it to use "any interpreted bytecode". --Toby >

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread dwight via cctalk
I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Antonio Carlini via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:42 AM To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Small C ver 1.00 source? On 14/07/2020 01:14, Grant

Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

2020-07-14 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
Out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about this publisher? They apparently existed in the late 70’s and early 80’s. They were apparently located in Beaverton, Oregon in the same business park, on Nimbus, where Norvac Electronics was. They obviously published some very strange computer

Re: Getting files off a 7300

2020-07-14 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
This gets my vote too. Pat On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:00 AM Ian Finder via cctalk wrote: > David Gesswein's excellent MFM emulator will capture a full-fidelity image > of the disk- both flux and bits- if you want the ultimate possible archival > integrity: > https://www.pdp8.net/mfm/mfm.shtml >

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 14/07/2020 01:14, Grant Taylor via cctech wrote: On 7/13/20 1:06 PM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions as to where it should go for safekeeping? Some combination of Internet Archive, BitKeepers, and TUHS would be my minimum recommendation. As you say, it's

Re: Getting files off a 7300

2020-07-14 Thread Ian Finder via cctalk
David Gesswein's excellent MFM emulator will capture a full-fidelity image of the disk- both flux and bits- if you want the ultimate possible archival integrity: https://www.pdp8.net/mfm/mfm.shtml Every vintage computing household needs at least one. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:39 PM Grant Taylor

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread ben via cctalk
On 7/13/2020 6:14 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 7/13/20 1:06 PM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions as to where it should go for safekeeping? Some combination of Internet Archive, BitKeepers, and TUHS would be my minimum recommendation. As you say, it's

Re: Getting files off a 7300

2020-07-14 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/13/20 9:12 PM, Phil Budne via cctalk wrote: UUCP? I'm glad that someone else said UUCP. I was thinking UUCP. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?

2020-07-14 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/13/20 1:06 PM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions as to where it should go for safekeeping? Some combination of Internet Archive, BitKeepers, and TUHS would be my minimum recommendation. As you say, it's small. It wouldn't be hard to hold on to. -- Grant.