Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 4/9/22 17:26, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
> Bill
> 
> Thanks for the offer of the DosTek 440a.  However, my problem is getting the 
> 232 output to wiggle a CRO not to input and log the serial data.
> 
> Fanuc manuals 1788.pdf, on VintageComputer.net, looks as though it contains 
> more detail than the PPR and System P manuals and may reward study.
> 

Are you certain that the interface isn't wired for current loop?  A lot
of these CNC (I'm assuming that this Fanuc unit falls in that category)
used the CL interface.  Connector's the D-25.

--Chuck

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

to front panel keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 - D-9
transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted appropriately
and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites.


I don't know anything about that specific setup, nor anaything aabout your 
personal expertise.


When you say "nothing on 232", is thatr per looking at the wires of the 
cable?  Or just not getting anything displayed by Putty?


When you say "knitted appropriately", since that is NOT referring to "as 
per the manual" (or is it?), have you checked all inputs and outputs?
Sometimes devices, at either end of the cable, have unexpected 
requirements,that are not usual parts of the RS232 "standard".


For example, I was once asked by the "Radio Shack Computer Center" to help 
them connect a Votrax to a Model 2 (for a blind customer).  They had tried 
all of the obvious commodity "null modems", etc.  I used a "matrix 
switch", but also had to solder one additional jumper for a pin that is 
not "normally" used for such things, and no obvious reason for being used. 
I no longer remember which pin; it was possibly #10 or #12, but it might 
just have been #22 ("ring indicator").  To avoid the bureaucratic 
administrative nonsense needed for them to pay me, I accepted a gift of a 
Model 2 Technical Reference manual as compensation.

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Eric Moore via cctalk]

Hi Martin, do you have an RS232 light box like this one?

RS232 Breakout Tester LED Monitor, DB9 Male to Female Breakout Module
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CDQ76Q8/

I am so confused why you are not seeing anything, I have had 3 PPRs (2
bartered away) and never had any issues except a broken punch pin and one
needing 220V power.

-Eric


On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 7:18 PM Martin Bishop <
mjd.bis...@emeritus-solutions.com> wrote:

> Eric
>
>
>
> Thank you for the manual and the suggestion of pulling all the jumpers.
> With all but jumper 1 out, it punches and remote starts (Xon) the reader at
> 4800 8N1; unchanged functionality.  However, still, nothing is emitted from
> the 232 for consumption by Putty.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, the SystemP manual contains identical pages on the PPR to
> those in the PPR’s own manual.  Nonetheless useful as context, and for
> perusal in slow time.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Moore [mailto:mooreeric...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 10 April 2022 00:09
> *To:* Martin Bishop ; General
> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
> *Subject:* Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not
> quite working
>
>
>
>
> http://vtda.org/docs/computing/FANUC/B-54111E-02_FANUC_System_P_Model_G_Operators_1983.pdf
>
>
>
> Here you are, I knew I scanned the manual. This has all the jumper
> settings, and instructions on local vs remote modes.
>
>
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 5:50 PM Eric Moore  wrote:
>
> Hi Martin, I use the PPR for all kinds of paper tape shennanigans.
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/hGr0F9a7x1A
>
>
>
> Remove all but the first jumper, and that may help with your issues. I
> found at one point the jumper settings, but will need to search.
>
>
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in
> translation and limited in scope.
>
> Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the serial
> port.  In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies (based on a QL).
> In also drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due to BCD
> coding or perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured as no check).
> The reader 'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in response
> to front panel keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 - D-9
> transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted appropriately
> and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long test
> tapes the reader does not fall off the end but stops, repeatably after ~49"
> which is remarkably close to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC termination
> octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : RS-244) don't seem to impress the reader
> - nothing changes.
>
> Specific queries:
> - Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax data
> out of the reader
> - Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available as pdf
> - Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most importantly
> the main board (with its 8031)
> - Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault diagnosis
> - Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute binary
> tapes, their target market was G code (text)
>
> Martin
>
>

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Martin Bishop via cctalk]

Bill

Thanks for the offer of the DosTek 440a.  However, my problem is getting the 
232 output to wiggle a CRO not to input and log the serial data.

Fanuc manuals 1788.pdf, on VintageComputer.net, looks as though it contains 
more detail than the PPR and System P manuals and may reward study.

Martin

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Bill Degnan 
via cctalk
Sent: 10 April 2022 00:14
To: Eric Moore ; General Discussion: On-Topic and 
Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite 
working

I have a dostek 440a for sale and notes about my fanuc tape unit here.
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/fanuc/index.cfm

On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 6:51 PM Eric Moore via cctalk 
wrote:

> Hi Martin, I use the PPR for all kinds of paper tape shennanigans.
>
> https://youtu.be/hGr0F9a7x1A
>
> Remove all but the first jumper, and that may help with your issues. I 
> found at one point the jumper settings, but will need to search.
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk < 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in 
> > translation and limited in scope.
> >
> > Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the 
> > serial port.  In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies 
> > (based on a
> QL).
> > In also drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due 
> > to BCD coding or perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured 
> > as no
> check).
> > The reader 'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in
> response
> > to front panel keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 
> > -
> D-9
> > transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted
> appropriately
> > and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long 
> > test tapes the reader does not fall off the end but stops, 
> > repeatably after
> ~49"
> > which is remarkably close to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC 
> > termination octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : RS-244) don't seem to 
> > impress the
> reader
> > - nothing changes.
> >
> > Specific queries:
> > - Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax 
> > data out of the reader
> > - Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available 
> > as pdf
> > - Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most 
> > importantly the main board (with its 8031)
> > - Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault 
> > diagnosis
> > - Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute 
> > binary tapes, their target market was G code (text)
> >
> > Martin
> >
>

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Martin Bishop via cctalk]

Eric

Thank you for the manual and the suggestion of pulling all the jumpers.  With 
all but jumper 1 out, it punches and remote starts (Xon) the reader at 4800 
8N1; unchanged functionality.  However, still, nothing is emitted from the 232 
for consumption by Putty.

Unfortunately, the SystemP manual contains identical pages on the PPR to those 
in the PPR’s own manual.  Nonetheless useful as context, and for perusal in 
slow time.

Martin

From: Eric Moore [mailto:mooreeric...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 April 2022 00:09
To: Martin Bishop ; General Discussion: 
On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite 
working

http://vtda.org/docs/computing/FANUC/B-54111E-02_FANUC_System_P_Model_G_Operators_1983.pdf

Here you are, I knew I scanned the manual. This has all the jumper settings, 
and instructions on local vs remote modes.

-Eric



On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 5:50 PM Eric Moore 
mailto:mooreeric...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Martin, I use the PPR for all kinds of paper tape shennanigans.

https://youtu.be/hGr0F9a7x1A

Remove all but the first jumper, and that may help with your issues. I found at 
one point the jumper settings, but will need to search.

-Eric


On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk 
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in translation 
and limited in scope.

Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the serial port.  
In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies (based on a QL).  In also 
drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due to BCD coding or 
perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured as no check).  The reader 
'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in response to front panel 
keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 - D-9 transition has all 
the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted appropriately and indicating 
'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long test tapes the reader does 
not fall off the end but stops, repeatably after ~49" which is remarkably close 
to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC termination octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : 
RS-244) don't seem to impress the reader - nothing changes.

Specific queries:
- Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax data out of 
the reader
- Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available as pdf
- Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most importantly the 
main board (with its 8031)
- Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault diagnosis
- Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute binary tapes, 
their target market was G code (text)

Martin

Re: Possibly going up to VCF, stuff I would like to sell/get to proper people pdp8/12/HP stuff

[Ethan O'Toole via cctalk]

I'm thinking about going up to VCF in Wall next weekend. I haven't been to it 
since it was the Trenton Computer Fest (think late 1990's) so I'm not sure 
what the protocol is on tailgating, trading stuff or whatnot. Appears that 
they have a "sale room" you drop things off in with prices. Ok


It's April 22nd to April 24th :-)

https://vcfed.org/events/vintage-computer-festival-east/


--
: Ethan O'Toole

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

I have a dostek 440a for sale and notes about my fanuc tape unit here.
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/fanuc/index.cfm

On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 6:51 PM Eric Moore via cctalk 
wrote:

> Hi Martin, I use the PPR for all kinds of paper tape shennanigans.
>
> https://youtu.be/hGr0F9a7x1A
>
> Remove all but the first jumper, and that may help with your issues. I
> found at one point the jumper settings, but will need to search.
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in
> > translation and limited in scope.
> >
> > Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the serial
> > port.  In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies (based on a
> QL).
> > In also drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due to BCD
> > coding or perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured as no
> check).
> > The reader 'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in
> response
> > to front panel keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 -
> D-9
> > transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted
> appropriately
> > and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long test
> > tapes the reader does not fall off the end but stops, repeatably after
> ~49"
> > which is remarkably close to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC termination
> > octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : RS-244) don't seem to impress the
> reader
> > - nothing changes.
> >
> > Specific queries:
> > - Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax data
> > out of the reader
> > - Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available as pdf
> > - Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most importantly
> > the main board (with its 8031)
> > - Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault diagnosis
> > - Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute binary
> > tapes, their target market was G code (text)
> >
> > Martin
> >
>

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Eric Moore via cctalk]

http://vtda.org/docs/computing/FANUC/B-54111E-02_FANUC_System_P_Model_G_Operators_1983.pdf

Here you are, I knew I scanned the manual. This has all the jumper
settings, and instructions on local vs remote modes.

-Eric



On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 5:50 PM Eric Moore  wrote:

> Hi Martin, I use the PPR for all kinds of paper tape shennanigans.
>
> https://youtu.be/hGr0F9a7x1A
>
> Remove all but the first jumper, and that may help with your issues. I
> found at one point the jumper settings, but will need to search.
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in
>> translation and limited in scope.
>>
>> Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the serial
>> port.  In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies (based on a QL).
>> In also drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due to BCD
>> coding or perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured as no check).
>> The reader 'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in response
>> to front panel keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 - D-9
>> transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted appropriately
>> and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long test
>> tapes the reader does not fall off the end but stops, repeatably after ~49"
>> which is remarkably close to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC termination
>> octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : RS-244) don't seem to impress the reader
>> - nothing changes.
>>
>> Specific queries:
>> - Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax data
>> out of the reader
>> - Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available as pdf
>> - Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most importantly
>> the main board (with its 8031)
>> - Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault diagnosis
>> - Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute binary
>> tapes, their target market was G code (text)
>>
>> Martin
>>
>

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Eric Moore via cctalk]

Hi Martin, I use the PPR for all kinds of paper tape shennanigans.

https://youtu.be/hGr0F9a7x1A

Remove all but the first jumper, and that may help with your issues. I
found at one point the jumper settings, but will need to search.

-Eric



On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk 
wrote:

> A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in
> translation and limited in scope.
>
> Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the serial
> port.  In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies (based on a QL).
> In also drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due to BCD
> coding or perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured as no check).
> The reader 'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in response
> to front panel keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 - D-9
> transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted appropriately
> and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long test
> tapes the reader does not fall off the end but stops, repeatably after ~49"
> which is remarkably close to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC termination
> octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : RS-244) don't seem to impress the reader
> - nothing changes.
>
> Specific queries:
> - Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax data
> out of the reader
> - Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available as pdf
> - Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most importantly
> the main board (with its 8031)
> - Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault diagnosis
> - Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute binary
> tapes, their target market was G code (text)
>
> Martin
>

Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Martin Bishop via cctalk]

A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in translation 
and limited in scope.

Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the serial port.  
In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies (based on a QL).  In also 
drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due to BCD coding or 
perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured as no check).  The reader 
'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in response to front panel 
keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 - D-9 transition has all 
the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted appropriately and indicating 
'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long test tapes the reader does 
not fall off the end but stops, repeatably after ~49" which is remarkably close 
to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC termination octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : 
RS-244) don't seem to impress the reader - nothing changes.

Specific queries:
- Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax data out of 
the reader
- Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available as pdf
- Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most importantly the 
main board (with its 8031)
- Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault diagnosis
- Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute binary tapes, 
their target market was G code (text)

Martin

Possibly going up to VCF, stuff I would like to sell/get to proper people pdp8/12/HP stuff

[Chris Zach via cctalk]

Hi all!

I'm thinking about going up to VCF in Wall next weekend. I haven't been 
to it since it was the Trenton Computer Fest (think late 1990's) so I'm 
not sure what the protocol is on tailgating, trading stuff or whatnot. 
Appears that they have a "sale room" you drop things off in with prices. 
Ok


Things I could "sell" if anyone's interested:
HP1000e computer, dead power supply, basic boards, no advanced memory.
HP9825B likewise does not power up, but it's there.
Microvax 2 boards, stuff like that.
Spare 11/24 CPU boards (I have a bunch, all work, no idea why I have all 
them)


Stuff I could bring to get out of my house and into the right hands:

Big box of pdp12 schematics. This came from my olden days when I had to 
turn up a pdp12 because it will not fit in a station wagon. Still it 
looks like board locations and a lot of 12 stuff. Big box, heavy to 
ship, easier to drive over.


Ton of pdp8/12 IO cables. These are the black circular wire ones, I 
think negibus. There's also some posibus ribbon cables but I'll save 
those for my 8/L's. If you need a set, let me know.


Stuff I'd trade for:
AF01 A/D converter. I don't have Negibus anymore, but I did check/reform 
the power supply and hooked it up and things do light up. Bunch of extra 
channel cards (I think it might have all 64). Would trade for a memory 
box for an 8/L.


Back to unearthing BLT.AI.MIT.EDU...

C

Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

[Tim Riker via cctalk]

I imagine someone hauling this to an event, and running it in shuffle 
mode with the door open. :)


On 4/9/2022 11:48 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:

On 09/04/2022 16:58, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
You wouldn’t be able to put TK-70 drives in this, wrong interface.  I 
don’t know if DEC DLT drives capable of reading TK50’s and TK70’s 
will work in one.


I have two TZ877 units, each of which contains a TZ87, and those will 
read TK50 and TK70 tapes. Whether a TZ87 will work in this drive or 
not, I don't know.


The internal interface board in the TZ877 presents a SCSI interface to 
the outside world.


I realise no-one is going to put a TZ-anything inside a Quantum tape 
library, but just in case ...


Antonio

Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

[Antonio Carlini via cctalk]

On 09/04/2022 16:58, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

You wouldn’t be able to put TK-70 drives in this, wrong interface.  I don’t 
know if DEC DLT drives capable of reading TK50’s and TK70’s will work in one.


I have two TZ877 units, each of which contains a TZ87, and those will 
read TK50 and TK70 tapes. Whether a TZ87 will work in this drive or not, 
I don't know.


The internal interface board in the TZ877 presents a SCSI interface to 
the outside world.



I realise no-one is going to put a TZ-anything inside a Quantum tape 
library, but just in case ...




Antonio



--

Antonio Carlini
anto...@acarlini.com

Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

[Zane Healy via cctalk]

You wouldn’t be able to put TK-70 drives in this, wrong interface.  I don’t 
know if DEC DLT drives capable of reading TK50’s and TK70’s will work in one.  
We only used DLT III and DLT IV tapes in them.  We first got one of these 
something like 25 years ago.  The earliest ones are rock solid, really well 
built, and very simple to repair.  Same with the smaller Quantum 4/52.  At the 
time Quantum wouldn’t send out a Quantum FE to work on the 4/52’s or 7100’s.  
I’d get the guy out to diagnose the problem, get the replacement parts ordered, 
and then when the parts came in I’d never tell him, I simply replaced them 
myself.  Just be careful when taking the big side panel off that hides the 
electronics, otherwise you’ll rip out the sense switch.  If you can find a 
source of spares, you can probably keep one of these going without too much 
trouble.

As for the problem this one has, with the load port, just fold a piece of 
corrugated cardboard in half, and use it to hold the door close, I ran one in 
production for a couple years, so I could avoid putting in a service call.

I’ve worked with Tape Libraries for over 25 years, and the 4/52 and 7100 are 
two of my favorites.  The Quantum P3000 is my least favorite.  The Quantum 
i2000’s and i6000’s were also rock solid, but I wouldn’t want one of those at 
home.  

On the topic of old Quantum tape libraries, does anyone happen to know of a 
company that will provide 3rd Party support on them?

Zane



> On Apr 9, 2022, at 6:37 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I have this strong desire to pick this up and install TK70 tape units. 
> Finally I can back up my pdp11 items in style :-)
> 
> C
> 
> On 4/8/2022 11:58 PM, Tim Riker via cctalk wrote:
>> I have a Quantum ATL-7100 100 tape DLT changer. Last I checked it worked 
>> fine. It's almost as big as a fridge. I have around 100 tapes for it, not 
>> all the same density. It uses fast/wide scsi-3 differential for the drives. 
>> I think I have 2 working drives in the cabinet plus one or 2 separate 
>> external drives.
>> I think my drives are DLT-7000 or similar which gives a total capacity of 
>> 7TB.
>> Upgraded with SDLT 220 drives and tapes the chassis would have a capacity of 
>> 22TB.
>> Anyone interested in picking this up in South Jordan Utah? (outside Salt 
>> Lake City).
>> The only issues I know about it, is the tape loading pivoting door is not 
>> quite rotating correctly, and I replaced one of the AT power supplies with a 
>> unit that is NOT autoswitching. So if you want to run the unit on 220V 
>> instead of 110, you will need to change the chassis and the replaced 
>> internal power supply.
>> It's really fun to load it up with tapes, then tell it to auto-shuffle them. 
>> I have the door hot wired so you can open the door while it's operating. 
>> Easy to restore the switch if you don't want to.
>> Photos here:
>> https://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-atl7100
>> Interested, please email directly, I don't check the list very often.
>> Tim

Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

[emanuel stiebler via cctalk]

On 2022-04-09 09:37, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I have this strong desire to pick this up and install TK70 tape units. 
Finally I can back up my pdp11 items in style :-)


Just pick it up, and read the SETI tapes ;-)

Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

[Chris Zach via cctalk]

I have this strong desire to pick this up and install TK70 tape units. 
Finally I can back up my pdp11 items in style :-)


C

On 4/8/2022 11:58 PM, Tim Riker via cctalk wrote:
I have a Quantum ATL-7100 100 tape DLT changer. Last I checked it worked 
fine. It's almost as big as a fridge. I have around 100 tapes for it, 
not all the same density. It uses fast/wide scsi-3 differential for the 
drives. I think I have 2 working drives in the cabinet plus one or 2 
separate external drives.


I think my drives are DLT-7000 or similar which gives a total capacity 
of 7TB.


Upgraded with SDLT 220 drives and tapes the chassis would have a 
capacity of 22TB.


Anyone interested in picking this up in South Jordan Utah? (outside Salt 
Lake City).


The only issues I know about it, is the tape loading pivoting door is 
not quite rotating correctly, and I replaced one of the AT power 
supplies with a unit that is NOT autoswitching. So if you want to run 
the unit on 220V instead of 110, you will need to change the chassis and 
the replaced internal power supply.


It's really fun to load it up with tapes, then tell it to auto-shuffle 
them. I have the door hot wired so you can open the door while it's 
operating. Easy to restore the switch if you don't want to.


Photos here:

https://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-atl7100

Interested, please email directly, I don't check the list very often.

Tim

Re: RCA COSMAC MS2000 MicroDisk Development System

[Joshua Rice via cctalk]

I’ve torn it down this morning and put some pictures on Imgur.

https://imgur.com/gallery/xwSvG8A 

Should be fairly comprehensive. It looks in good condition, with nothing 
obviously wrong with it.

If there’s anything i’ve missed, or that you’d like better pictures of, let me 
know. I suppose all that’s left to do is warm it up and see if it works. 

Cheers, 

Josh Rice