[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> On 08/28/2023 5:07 PM CDT Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > I think I've come up with a nice way to get that accomplished through good > old market dynamics (i.e. voluntarily) with a subtle twist. Well at some point in the next N years I need to sell off my S-100 stuff. If I croak

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: My trick for successful landing the CDC Cyber/6000 series lunar lander version was to set the initial height above the moon's surface to the minimum height of 1' and then let it drop. I never successful landed from the default height above the

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
My trick for successful landing the CDC Cyber/6000 series lunar lander version was to set the initial height above the moon's surface to the minimum height of 1' and then let it drop. I never successful landed from the default height above the surface. It was seriously difficult. On Tue, 29 Aug

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Look at the photos. Let it rust in peace in mouse heaven. It is just scrap. On Tue, 29 Aug 2023, 1:30 am Bill Degnan via cctalk, wrote: > It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping > https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067408991 > > sheesh. > > Bill >

[cctalk] Re: IBM 1620 Model 2 software wanted

2023-08-28 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/28/23 16:56, Dave Babcock via cctalk wrote: > Chuck, > > Yes, I mean Monitor II-D. > > No, CHM does not have a working 1311 drive.  The need for Monitor II-D > is for the IBM 1620 Model 2 simulators being written. Monitor I does not > run correctly on a 1620 Model 2 when index registers are

[cctalk] Re: IBM 1620 Model 2 software wanted

2023-08-28 Thread Dave Babcock via cctalk
Chuck, Yes, I mean Monitor II-D. No, CHM does not have a working 1311 drive.  The need for Monitor II-D is for the IBM 1620 Model 2 simulators being written. Monitor I does not run correctly on a 1620 Model 2 when index registers are enabled and used by a program. Dave On 8/28/2023 3:48

[cctalk] Re: IBM 1620 Model 2 software wanted

2023-08-28 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/28/23 13:54, Dave Babcock via cctalk wrote: > To all, > What they need, and CHM would be very interested in adding to its IBM > 1620 collection, is original software specifically for the IBM 1620 > Model 2.  Of particular interest are the IBM 1620 Monitor II and IBM > 1620-2 diagnostics, but

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I forgot to mention that I was playing the Focal version on a PDP-8/L coincidentally. On 8/28/2023 4:16 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: I played the graphics lunar lander on a PDP-9 with a graphics display and push buttons (not the sw) in a back room in the Kiewit Computation Center at

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Brad H via cctalk
-Original Message- From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 3:07 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Sellam Abraham Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000 On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Brad H via cctalk wrote: >> Sometimes. But a lot

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread brad via cctalk
I wonder if it came to it which option would be best for me if I sold my Mark-8 stuff.  I have the unbuilt board set and then also the built one I acquired recently that was photoed in 73 Magazine.  It seems like the actual auction houses get more usually.BradSent from my Galaxy

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:27 PM Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Ethan O'Toole via cctalk > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 9:38 PM > > To: Mike Katz via cctalk > > Cc: Ethan O'Toole > > Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000 >

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Brad H via cctalk wrote: > Sometimes. But a lot of times it's just simply trying to get as much as > possible, which I guess is rational economic behavior. And the fault for > the high prices is us collectors - ye who bid thousands for old Apple IIs > or $3500

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Ethan O'Toole via cctalk > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 9:38 PM > To: Mike Katz via cctalk > Cc: Ethan O'Toole > Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000 > > > However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay > > even when it doesn't sell.

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I hate what epay is doing to our hobby. I prefer to sell and trade between our selves as reasonable prices understanding that a lot of what we do is sweat equity. On 8/28/2023 3:56 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:50 AM Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: However,

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Brad H via cctalk
Sometimes. But a lot of times it's just simply trying to get as much as possible, which I guess is rational economic behavior. And the fault for the high prices is us collectors - ye who bid thousands for old Apple IIs or $3500 for a Microswitch keyboard. I've been hunting for a Sanyo

[cctalk] Re: IBM 1620 Model 2 software wanted

2023-08-28 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> Some 20 years ago, I led the Computer History Museum's restoration of an > IBM 1620 Model 1 computer. We all owe you thanks for this. mcl

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I played the graphics lunar lander on a PDP-9 with a graphics display and push buttons (not the sw) in a back room in the Kiewit Computation Center at Dartmouth in like 1972 or 1973, the same time I was playing it in text on a teletype ASR-33 in Focal.  Hand typed in and punched to paper tape.

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 28, 2023, at 4:55 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On 08/28/2023 3:48 PM CDT Paul Koning via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Lander, in FOCAL? The only one I know is for the GT40, in assembler. >> >> paul > > Apparently the original version was in FOCAL. >

[cctalk] IBM 1620 Model 2 software wanted

2023-08-28 Thread Dave Babcock via cctalk
To all, Some 20 years ago, I led the Computer History Museum's restoration of an IBM 1620 Model 1 computer.  Our team was successful in both bringing the machine back to life and collecting a massive amount of manuals, books, and software for the machine.  Most notable the John Maniotes

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:50 AM Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay even > when it doesn't sell. It's thirty five cents, and they usually don't charge it until it actually sells. Then they dock you another 13.25% on the total the

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 08/28/2023 3:48 PM CDT Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > Lander, in FOCAL? The only one I know is for the GT40, in assembler. > > paul Apparently the original version was in FOCAL. https://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~storer/LunarLander/LunarLander.html Will

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:38 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > > It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping > > >

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 28, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk > wrote: > >> (I'd normally sell one of mine for 6k working with Focal loaded up. > > Man, I hadn't thought of Focal in years. > > Never could beat that lunar lander someone wrote in it. Lander, in FOCAL? The only one I know is for

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay even when it doesn't sell. Eh, you get a lot of free listings these days. They take a huge chunk though. - Ethan

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I think some Ebay sellers simply overpriced an item when they know it's > probably valuable but they're not sure how much to sell for. They will > wait for people to contact and say, "your price is way too high, you might > sell if you charged $n instead." > > It's not an illogical tactic.

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> (I'd normally sell one of mine for 6k working with Focal loaded up. Man, I hadn't thought of Focal in years. Never could beat that lunar lander someone wrote in it. mcl

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
it's been there for over a week. In unknown condition. I think that price is disgustingly high. I would love to have one but that is the down payment on a car, not a used computer.  Antique or not. On 8/28/2023 12:30 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: It can be yours for only $15,000 plus

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay even when it doesn't sell. On 8/28/2023 1:37 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: It can be yours for only $15,000

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I will say the desktop chassis thing is kind of snazzy. But man be prepared to replace a LOT of 7474 flip flops and 8 input NAND gates (they seemed to use those as drivers. Weird, but worked but put the chip under serious stress when old) On 8/28/2023 1:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Aww! Looks like Mr. Mouse paid a visit. That will be fun to get running. (I'd normally sell one of mine for 6k working with Focal loaded up.  They're cute and all, but 15k? And it nice to have a spare for troubleshooting the other one if needed) CZ On 8/28/2023 2:37 PM, Bill Degnan via

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067408991 > > > Well, if that doesn't fancy your tickle, you can have an equally > rough-looking Morrow

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping > https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067408991 > Well, if that doesn't fancy your tickle, you can have an equally rough-looking Morrow MD-1 for only $3500. https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067197438 --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
"not tested" and "mice have been inside of it". sheesh ** 2. mcl

[cctalk] PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-08-28 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067408991 sheesh. Bill

[cctalk] Re: Signetics N8220B ??

2023-08-28 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Bingo! Thank you very much, I've read "2 Bit CAM" somewhere..but that clarified nothing.. Currently I read trough the datasheet...cool device.. Regards, Holm Veit, Holger wrote: > Maybe 8x2 content addressable memory? > See >

[cctalk] Re: Signetics N8220B ??

2023-08-28 Thread osi.superboard via cctalk
If it is a 14 pin IC, my guess would be the National DM8220 Parity Checker/Generator (seen in TTL cross reference 1971) Am 28.08.2023 um 14:24 schrieb Holm Tiffe via cctalk: Hi guys, I have 8 "new" Chips from Signetics, they are labeled: S7536 N8220B and on the backside between the pins

[cctalk] Re: Signetics N8220B ??

2023-08-28 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On August 28, 2023 8:24 AM CDT Holm Tiffe via cctalk > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > I have 8 "new" Chips from Signetics, they are labeled: > > S7536 > N8220B > > and on the backside between the pins "8220". > > Does anyone know what they do? My search with google and > in the 1976 Signetics

[cctalk] Re: Signetics N8220B ??

2023-08-28 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Package type, pin count, date code, other hints Either number might be a yyww date code, one of them probably is Giggle offers numerous responses to 7536 IC and 8220 IC Old enough they mght be in an IC cross reference book Good luck Martin -Original Message- From: Holm Tiffe via

[cctalk] Re: Signetics N8220B ??

2023-08-28 Thread Veit, Holger via cctalk
Maybe 8x2 content addressable memory? See https://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/components/signetics/_dataBooks/1972_Signetics_Full_Line.pdf, page 4-3 -- Holger Von: Holm Tiffe via cctalk Gesendet: Montag, 28. August 2023 15:24 An:

[cctalk] Signetics N8220B ??

2023-08-28 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Hi guys, I have 8 "new" Chips from Signetics, they are labeled: S7536 N8220B and on the backside between the pins "8220". Does anyone know what they do? My search with google and in the 1976 Signetics Date Manual (from Bitsavers) wasn't helpful... Thanx in advance, Holm -- Technik