Re: MC68K's on DEUNA's

2017-03-24 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Noel Chiappa via > cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:43 PM > To:

Re: CF cards as storage - wear leveling

2017-03-19 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > I just bought an IDE-CF adapter the other day with the intention of > replacing the spinning rust in my disk imaging system (which is some > early/mid-90s 80486-based thing). > > However, the CF entry

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-16 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:28 AM, geneb via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2017, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > >> I'm waiting for the rise of cell phones to make it >> >> 202x All the world's an ARM running Android >> > on Linux.

Re: Dore' on FreeBSD today

2017-03-20 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctech wrote: > FWIW, Dore'[1] doesn't compile out of the box on FreeBSD 10.3-stable: > ./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf -DTOPDIR=. -DCURDIR=. > ./config/imake/imake: No such file or directory: Cannot exec >

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-15 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:13 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2017, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> Below the user interface, is Android very similar to Linux? >> > I'm pretty sure Android runs on top of Linux. Android runs a hacked BSD libc on top of a linux

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-15 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > On 2017-03-15 5:17 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> >>> The whole idea of an "operating system" seems to have morphed into the >>> notion of a user interface. >>> >>> To my way of thinking,t he

Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Sean Conner via cctalk wrote: > It was thus said that the Great Alfred M. Szmidt once stated: >>It was thus said that the Great Noel Chiappa via cctalk once stated: >>> > From: Alfred M. Szmidt >>> >>> > No even the

Re: WTB: DEC Rainbow Expansion Memory

2017-04-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Stephen Pereira via cctech wrote: > I’m looking for expansion memory for my DEC Rainbow. > > I currently have 128K RAM, and I’d like to have 256K RAM, so I can actually > use the Lotus 1-2-3 that I recently purchased (without thinking). >

Re: WTB: DEC Rainbow Expansion Memory

2017-04-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Stephen Pereira wrote: > Thanks for your response. > > Just to be certain, I just tore it all down and reconfirmed, in case my > memory was playing any tricks. > > I have a PC-100B with no expansion card. > > Thanks again for the advice.

Re: WTB: DEC Rainbow Expansion Memory

2017-04-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Thanks! I have another experiment to try, but need some parts for that, so it will have to wait until they arrive. the unit has been a bit flakey this time, so I don't know if I need a new controller board, new RX-50 or a new power supply. Or a ROM refresh Warner On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:47

Re: WTB: DEC Rainbow Expansion Memory

2017-04-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
For you and me both. I was getting read errors on my RX-50, so I tried to swap in a new drive, and now that's all I get as well. Guess I'll have to figure out another way to get the Venix/86R disks copied. Warner On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Stephen Pereira wrote:

Re: WTB: DEC Rainbow Expansion Memory

2017-04-13 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:00 PM, shad via cctech wrote: > Hello, > I'm in the pretty same condition, I have a Rainbow 100B without memory > expansion. > Not sure however, about the correct board number, which would fit the 100B. > What should I search for? The DEC

Re: WTB: DEC Rainbow Expansion Memory

2017-04-15 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 9:56 AM, william degnan via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> Rainbow Memory Extension Option Installation Guide:EK-PCMKE-IN >> >> …Two versions of the memory extension option are available: a 64 K byte >> option (part number PC1XX-AA) and a 192K byte

Re: Tektronix Terminal Emulation

2017-03-11 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 3/11/2017 12:08 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk >> wrote: >>> >>> I like using the laptop as a console

Re: Tektronix Terminal Emulation

2017-03-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Mouse via cctalk wrote: >> I'm not sure about the MicroVax II but on some other VAX and Alpha >> machines, the console port may be less capable than ordinary terminal >> ports in the way of buffering, flow control, 8 bit support and so on. >

Re: AIX documentation

2017-03-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> I have a number of binders that have pretty thorough AIX documentation, >>> but >>> the trouble is, there are from security classes that were taught by >>> private >>> companies. Am I legally allowed to

Re: AIX documentation

2017-03-12 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > AIX documentation, but the trouble is, there are from security classes > that were taught by private companies. Am I legally allowed to resell > these? >>> >>> While not a COPYRIGHT issue, it is

Re: VT52 keyboard question

2017-03-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > >> On Mar 13, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> ... >> My guess is that the VT52, VT55, VT05 and LA30 are identical. > > No, fortunately not. The LA30 was

Re: Full immersion emulation

2017-03-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> On 03/01/2017 11:14 AM, Charles Anthony via cctalk wrote: Part of the iconic mainframe experience is the cold room sounds; for early >> >> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk

Re: Full immersion emulation

2017-03-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
[ stupid gmail ] On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: On 03/01/2017 11:14 AM, Charles Anthony via cctalk wrote: > > Part of the iconic mainframe experience is the

Re: Full immersion emulation

2017-03-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
All this talk of the sounds hammering away and the console reminded me. There's another part of the experience: when a system crashed... There was a distinctive pattern of sounds when the register dump was printed, some beeps from the console and often the groans of the people that were affected

Re: WTB: DEC Rainbow Expansion Memory

2017-04-18 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Found this file on an old Rainbow floppy. It has more detailed data. http://people.freebsd.org/~imp/RBMEMRY.TXT Sorry I didn't convert it to HTML... Warner On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Apr 13, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Warner

Re: Cleaning a board slightly oxydized ??

2017-07-31 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 07/31/2017 03:13 AM, Alexandre Souza via cctalk wrote: > >> AFAIK, common household and vinegar and citric acid are the same thing. >> Can >> you elaborate, please? O_O >> >> >> Vinegar is Acetic acid,

Re: Floppy Disk Images

2017-08-11 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Christian Groessler via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On 08/11/17 19:58, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: > >> And just to make it interesting, I have a number of hard disks (5mb to >> maybe 20mb) of both 5.35" and 8". I've got several Lobo

Re: Depressing article

2017-07-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Ed Thierbach via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Why would NASA say “destroy the tapes” ? > > > > If I'm reading the report correctly, the tapes were quite infected with > mold, and probably unreadable. I'd guess it wouldn't be worth the health >

Re: tape baking

2017-07-02 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
I recently read 300-odd RX-50 diskettes. All but 10-15 read, many w/o error, some with lots of errors. I'm guessing that baking won't help the few that didn't read since they weren't stuck to the lining of the diskette... What's the theory behind baking floppies? For tapes it makes sense to help

Best place to get info on monitor repair...

2017-06-27 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Had a static discharge event with my VR-201 and suddenly the background is 'grey' rather than 'black'. By this I mean I see maybe 50% of the color (where before I saw maybe 1%) and maybe half a dozen solid diagonal lines. This replicates across the two rainbows I tried the monitor with. This

Re: Tandon TM-100-1 electronics repair

2017-04-27 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: >> >>> Additionally, for a testing framework to poke signals through the >>> drive for debugging during the repair, what's a good platform? A >>> PC

Re: 2.11BSD on two RL02 drives? Probably not, but...

2017-08-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:17 AM, David Bridgham via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > So my question is: do industrial SD cards exist? > Yes. They have for about a decade. Almost all SD cards these days could easily handle an I/O write rate that a PDP-11 is able to generate. It takes

Re: 2.11BSD on two RL02 drives? Probably not, but...

2017-08-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > USB with 480MHz is fast enough > > I think our plan was to skip that speed, and go with the next one down, on > the grounds that the analog part at that speed would be too tricky for us. I did some

Re: 2.11BSD on two RL02 drives? Probably not, but...

2017-08-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On Aug 4, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 8/4/17 11:14 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: >

Re: 2.11BSD on two RL02 drives? Probably not, but...

2017-08-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Paul Koning > > > flash storage devices do wear leveling. The fact that you're writing > to > > the same block number doesn't mean you're actually writing to the > same > > spot on

Re: Dec name plate?

2017-05-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
I'd love to help with the ID, but need a picture to do so. Maybe the list stripped the picture and you could post a pointer instead? Warner On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > What's this name plate from quick Google doesn't find anything

Re: File recovery help needed (Alabama)

2017-06-22 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > CORRECTION: > OpenOffice claims to READ WP files, but not SAVE to those formats. > > > Which brings it all down to: > "How do you read 5.25" MS-DOS disks?" > kryoflux is how I've read the ones that I've

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-20 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 19 May 2017 at 21:39, jim stephens via cctalk > wrote: > > I have news for you. (maybe) From 1976 until it petered out, the phone > time > > cost a lot too. $200 or more a month

Re: Kryoflux or Catweasle

2017-05-24 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > > > In point of advancing technology, one can purchase a STM32F4 development > > board with USB, UART,

Re: Fixing flakey floppies

2017-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
> twitter: billdeg > vintagecomputer.net > On May 23, 2017 8:13 PM, "Warner Losh via cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I have three flakey floppies. I wonder if they are worth fixing. Two are >> TEAC FD-55FRs. One a

Fixing flakey floppies

2017-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Greetings, I have three flakey floppies. I wonder if they are worth fixing. Two are TEAC FD-55FRs. One appears to not report the INDEX mark, the other works well until around track 35 or so then fails... The third floppy is a 1.2 MB YD-380. It won't reliably move the head... I've tried cleaning

Re: Kryoflux or Catweasle

2017-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
I just bought Kryoflux last month to read some Venix disks. https://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog/ is a good place to start. Once I got a working floppy, and understood the output of dtc, I've been loving mine. I'd recommend buying a known good floppy drive of the appropriate flavor if you don't

Re: KL10 backplane on eBay

2017-05-29 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Will it fit in a pickup truck? On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Another eBait wonder: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/182597510806 > > The listing says "Local pick-up only", and it's in Denver, Colorado. > Someone > should really save this

Re: Windows 1.0 For DEC Rainbow (mirror of Latrobe ftp anybody ?)

2017-05-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Huw Davies > wrote: >> >>> On 19 Aug 2016, at 02:31, shad wrote: >>> >>> It seems that copies of this software are really difficult

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-05-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 5:16 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: > After looking at all that... > > The prompt is VMS the $. The date makes it V3.6 to 4.2. > I'd still bet that its Files-11 not ODS-II. > > I'd have to check of the DCL prompt under RSX-11 is also $. It is, though

Re: Windows 1.0 For DEC Rainbow (mirror of Latrobe ftp anybody ?)

2017-05-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
degnan <billdeg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Warner, > How are you uploading and downloading disks from the Rainbow...via the > Rainbow or by reading the disks using an image program? I grabbed a copy of > Windows. I may have a spare graphics card. > Bill > > On Mon, May 1, 20

Re: Windows 1.0 For DEC Rainbow (mirror of Latrobe ftp anybody ?)

2017-05-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 4 May 2017, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: >> >> The old fashioned way: copy the files on the rainbow to the hard >> drive, kermit to my unix box. >> I have a

Re: Windows 1.0 For DEC Rainbow (mirror of Latrobe ftp anybody ?)

2017-05-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
, May 4, 2017 at 8:18 PM, william degnan via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > OK.. I will use LCTERM on my Rainbow to Kermit to my Raspberry Pi. > b > > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org >> wrote: > >> On Thu, 4 Ma

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-15 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, Warner Losh wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: >> >>> On the IBM PC/AT (5170) with 1.2M, admittedly the only one that is easily >>>

Re: Estate sale: Rainbow 100, Mac

2017-09-17 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Dave Mitton via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I passed by an estate sale home of an ex DEC employee. > > In his attic was a Rainbow 100 (original not 100) and an old Macintosh. > Lot of software diskettes, LA50, some other stuff. > What kinds of

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > > > On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > I don't see where you read the first 2 tracks

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi > > I have a bunch of .dsk RT11 400k image files I need to write to RX50 > disks so I can boot from them on my 11/73 > > Somewhere there is a utility that will write the images to RX50 on a DEC >

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 14/09/2017 18:37, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: > >> >> >> On 14/09/2017 17:55, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> >>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk <

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > ... > > I don't see where you read the first 2 tracks uninterlaced, and the > other tracks interlaced? For DOS formatted disks, that's

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Paul Koning > wrote: > >> >> > On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >> > >> > ... >> > I don't see where you read the first 2 tracks

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Paul Koning > wrote: > >> >> > On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Warner Losh

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: > >> I have a bunch of .dsk RT11 400k image files I need to write to >> RX50 disks so I can boot from them on my 11/73 >> Somewhere there is a

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:27 PM, jim stephens via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> > >> > >>

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > >> And then there's Venix disks, which have both an interlace, as well as a >> skew from track to track (as well as doing one

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > I have a bunch of .dsk RT11 400k image files I need to write to RX50 disks so I can boot from them on my 11/73 >>> such as: >>> PBM 1000 >>> Tandy 2000 >>> Eagle II >>> Toshiba T300 >>> Altos >>> Canon AS100

Re: Rainbow Disk Imager

2017-09-14 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 5:15 PM, jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 9/14/2017 3:51 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > >> As you might tell from this thread, floppies, reading >> them, and their formatting stir way too

Re: The origin of the phrases ATA and IDE [WAS:RE: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC]

2017-10-02 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Jon Elson via cctech wrote: > On 10/02/2017 08:29 AM, allison via cctech wrote: > >> >> >> It was price... ATA-IDE was cheaper and PC industry was working hard to >> push the price down. >> SCSI always remained more costly. >> >> Yes. I

Re: The origin of the phrases ATA and IDE [WAS:RE: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC]

2017-10-03 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Q: was the card slot in the Poqet "PCMCIA"? ("People Can't Memorize > Computer Industry Acronyms" ("Personal Computer Memory Card Industry > Association", for those who want more formality)) > Maybe later

Re: The origin of SCSI [WAS:RE: The origin of the phrases ATA and IDE ]

2017-10-09 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Oct 9, 2017 11:51 AM, "Mark Linimon via cctalk" wrote: On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 08:52:26AM -0500, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > Lots of early SCSI devices have no support for the Inquiry command, which > trips up modern software which expects it - I don't know if

Re: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-26 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I remember at least one manufacturer >recommending it for their > >> drive(s) if they were ever tilted through 90 degrees - >presumably > there >> were tiny effects on the head positioning and so not >doing

Re: formatting MFM drives on a IBM PC

2017-09-29 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sep 29, 2017 6:49 AM, "Peter Corlett via cctalk" wrote: On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 05:36:40PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: [...] > What I find perplexing is the acronym "SATA" for "Serial ATA". The name would > imply that a drive can be connected to a 5170, but I'm

Re: Why women were the first computer programmers

2017-08-24 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Seth Morabito via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > This is not political correctness. It's basic human decency and > giving everyone an equal opportunity to be a good or a bad engineer on > their own merits. > Keep in mind we can't say, with any degree of

Re: ULTRIX 4.5 on DECstation won't boot into multi-user mode

2017-08-26 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > >> Thanks for the suggestion - it sounds plausible. If I remember > >> correctly, it asks for the time when you boot up, but I might not be > >> remembering it properly so I'll give it a try soon. > > >

Re: LA-180 ? On Craigslist near Duluth MI

2017-08-26 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
I have what I think is a LA-100 (letter writer 100 maybe?) that's free to anybody that will come and get it, or "free" if you pay shipping If there's any interest, I'll find out exactly what... I got it when I bought my last DEC Rainbow... Warner On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:44 PM, william

Re: LA-180 ? On Craigslist near Duluth MI

2017-08-26 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 4:50 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 8/26/2017 4:02 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote: > >> https://eauclaire.craigslist.org/atq/d/aa-occasional-sales/6 >> 248628617.html >> >> Picture #8 in rear right corner >> > > And #11. It's

Re: LA-180 ? On Craigslist near Duluth MI

2017-08-26 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
No keyboard, just a few control keys. So letterprinter. Warner On Aug 26, 2017 6:08 PM, "Mike Stein via cctech" wrote: > There were two versions, the Letterprinter (without a keyboard, aka LP100) > and the Letterwriter (with KB, aka LW100); which one is yours? > > -

Odd Ebay auction showed up today...

2017-09-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Greetings! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Computer-Warehouse-for-sale-100s-of-Vintage-Computers-Keyboards-More/192286567641 selling off an entire warehouse of vintage items. Any clue who these folks are? Warner

Re: PCMCIA (Was: The origin of the phrases ATA and IDE [WAS:RE: formatting

2017-10-03 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Q: was the card slot in the Poqet "PCMCIA"? ("People Can't Memorize >>> Computer Industry Acronyms" ("Personal Computer Memory Card Industry >>> Association", for those who want more formality)) >>> Maybe

Re: what is this NCR modem? what did it go to?

2017-11-27 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 11/27/2017 11:15 AM, Alan Frisbie via cctalk wrote: > > > Back in those days you could not connect anything directly to the > telephone > > lines -- you had to use the telco-supplied DAA (kaching!) or an

Re: BBS software was Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Ethan via cctalk wrote: > I'd get a RS232toWIFI dongle, they're cheap and easy to make a connection >> via simple terminal software to an outside telnet target. >> > > I don't think the RS232 to WIFI dongles from the one guy are often >

Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 3 November 2017 at 22:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > > Exactly! > > > > But, they sometimes try to convince us that it means "Personal Computer > > Memory Card Instustry

Re: Sparc Laptops

2018-05-09 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
I have a DEC Pentium 200 Laptop... It appears to be like this hinote https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Digital-HiNote-VP-Laptop-Notebook-PC-Windows-95-Pentium-200MHz-MMX-32MB/362199249233?hash=item5454c1f151:g:tGUAAOSwrFtaRriI Warner On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk <

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

2018-05-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 7:14 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Bill > Gunshannon > > via cctalk > > Sent: 04 May 2018 12:57 > > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > > Subject: Re: DEC

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I talked with my friend who worked at Solbourne longer than I did. > > Oooh. Dieter, maybe? Yes. > This isn't quite right. The connectors are different, but the signalling > is > > the same. You need

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Alan Perry wrote: > > You are correct. I misremembered this section from > https://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/solace/ > > Why don't Sun keyboards work? What about mice? None of the Sun keyboards > will work with the Solbourne and vice versa.

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > HP-UX for them is very interesting from a historical perspective in that > the Unix kernel is a complete rewrite. It is hosted on top of HP’s “SUN > OS” operating system (there is also a single-user

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 9:46 AM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 5/23/18 7:51 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > they need a special mouse and keyboard > > You can run them headless, so they aren't completely useless w/o the > keyboard. > You do need a serial port for

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Iorc, the mice are sun compatable, but that may just be for the IDT workstation. I have a recollection that they are also compatable with the Series 4, 5 and 5e I/O boards. I know a guy that I used to work with there that will know for sure. I'll ask him. He still has a series 5e in service...

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:40 AM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Does the S4100 support a serial console? > > Yes, it should. I forget how to set this up because mine weren't headless, > but they do. The boot roms are basically from the same sources... but I think

Re: DEC VT 420 comm cable?

2018-06-15 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
In a pinch, you can use a normal modular jack (RJ45 I think) with the retaining tab cut off. All MMJ does is move that tab. The idea, back in the day, was that you wouldn't want to confuse phone and serial cables. Sounds sane, but the MMJs were hard to get a hold of and a real pita in practice.

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-06-02 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 7:37 PM, Alan Frisbie > wrote: > > Tony Duell wrote: > > > >> > until the 8085 CFE loaded the microcode. > >> > >> Loaded from a TU58 cartridge, which is the main reason my 11/730 is

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-29 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 4:43 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 06/29/2018 02:30 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > > > When we wired up two different locations for terminals at Software > > Results Corp in the 80s, the furthest runs were 250' or so. 9600 > > baud, from VT100s back to Emulex

Re: Strange Teledisk question

2018-06-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > All the disk images for the Waveterm have been created using programs >>> written by PPG users. For some reason any disk we wrote with them >>> wouldn’t read correctly in the machine itself UNTIL we made a

Re: (OT) Re: Is This A Shill?

2018-05-02 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On May 2, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On 05/02/2018 08:06 AM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: > > > >> When you say you snipe with a bot, do

Re: eBay search fail

2018-05-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 8:29 AM, js--- via cctalk wrote: > > It could possibly be the "-" sign. I use that to exclude tokens from a > search. > > So "pdp -parts" should list all pdp items that are NOT parts. > Yes. One of my searches is: dec rainbow -spinner -flower

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: > >> I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe >> using enterprise level ones. >> Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed

Re: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I now have a number of uCode diskettes for my IBM 4331. I would somehow > like to image them so: > a) I have backups in case the floppies themselves go bad > b) be able to investigate their

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > This may be off-topic but these latest uprocessor exploits has raised > a question: Are the 'old/classic' uprocessors using x86 technology in > the same boat? The very earliest ones, i.e., 1970s and

Re: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > On Jan 5, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccm

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

2018-01-17 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=BBN-V6 > > (The latter includes NCP as well as TCP/IP.) > I'm curious: does it inter-operate with modern TCP/IP implementations? Warner

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

2018-01-18 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Easier, to get this old TCP/IP running, might be to write a Unix V6 driver > for > an Ethernet card (one the simulators do support - I know Ersatz-11 does the > Interlan NI1010A/2010A, which is nice and

Re: Livingston Portmaster 2e

2018-01-15 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:19:17AM +1100, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote: > > not sure of that's a realistic expectation of what they're worth or not. > > Put it this way: if you find out what they are

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules >> > Richardson

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules > > Richardson via cctalk > > Sent: 21 January 2018 19:26 > > To: xx Classiccmp mailing list

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

2018-01-17 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:18, Warner Losh via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < > > cc

RE: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-13 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Jan 13, 2018 11:22 AM, "Dave Wade via cctalk" wrote: > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Murray > McCullough via cctalk > Sent: 13 January 2018 18:09 > To: cctalk > Subject: Spectre &

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-13 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Jan 13, 2018 11:36 AM, "Paul Koning via cctalk" wrote: > On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > ... > It delayed telling the world to allow time for OS providers to apply fixes. This is now standard and the delays are

Re: MACSYMA classic

2018-02-02 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Lars Brinkhoff > > > Right, we haven't found sources for everything in Macsyma. > > Ow. How much, very roughly, is missing (if you happen to know) - 5%, 50%? > > > I'd say we're lucky to

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