On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 5:36 PM Chris Zach via cctalk
wrote:
> They were interesting little devices. Apparently someone ported
> Multiplan or Visicalc to one but Dec shot the project down. They were
> essentially a turnkey personal computer in the late 1970's but DEC was
> afraid they would cut int
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 11:22 AM Alan Perry via cctalk
wrote:
> Courtesy of a Raspberry Pi serving as the ND server, I am now able to
> load SunOS 3.5 over the network onto my 3/260 and it is now coming up
> into the OS. I am now seeing this error:
>
> >sc0 at vme24d16 20 vec 0x40
> >sd0 at
I can't help you with the RL02... But I have MFM drives, experience using
an MFM emulator (I have two running in my Rainbows), RX-50 drives and am
just over in Brighton, CO. If nothing else, I have a DEC Rainbow and can
format some diskettes for you if need be. In normal times, I'd be down for
in-
On Sat, May 16, 2020, 11:02 AM Joseph Zatarski via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I had to repair the RAM board in my VS3200/KA650 again, so I took video
> of the whole process (less about a whole day I lost troubleshooting a
> trace I nicked).
>
> Maybe some of you will find it interest
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:13 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Gentlepeople,
>
> I've been having problems with broken LK201s, so as a workaround I created
> an adapter that connects to a standard PC USB keyboard and makes it look
> like an LK201. It's based on an Arduin
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:32 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > However, if it turns out that the issues are in the electronics part of
> the
> > keyboard and they are not easily repairable for one reason or another, I
> may
> > be interested in a drop in replacement for
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:46 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:28 PM Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
> > What I was talking about is a way to use a PC USB keyboard in place of
> an LK201, when your last remaining real LK201 has just failed. Tha
On Sat, May 23, 2020, 7:10 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
> On 5/23/20 5:58 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
> > Tapes are shedding that much
>
> yup, they are garbage.
>
> high probability that you will make the first pass across the tape and it
> will stick
> when it reverses direction for the
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:04 AM Toby Thain via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2020-05-24 11:17 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> > ... IBM was doing
> > Virtualization in the 70's.
>
> 1968 and probably before.[1]
>
> Most operating systems concepts[2] are much older than people think.
>
The topic for
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:01 PM Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2020-05-24 3:20 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:04 AM Toby Thain via cctalk
> > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-05-24 11:17 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> > > ... IBM was doin
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:14 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 13:20:41 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:04 AM Toby Thain via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2020-05-24 11:17 AM, Bill Gunshannon via c
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:47 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 15:18:34 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The topic for my talk next week. Unix had virtualization in 74. The
> >> second
> >> > Unix port ran under OS/360's VM in 78.
> >>
On Mon, May 25, 2020, 8:40 AM Jon Elson wrote:
> On 05/24/2020 04:18 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> > IBM's standard VM/360. Sorry for the confusion. That will
> > teach me to reply on my phone... Warner
> As far as I know, there was no VM/360. There WAS VM/370,
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 12:06 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
> I've started to scan a box of them that I've had sitting around since the
> 00's
> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/decus/confProceedings/
>
> I just uploaded the first one (Spring 1985)
>
You rock.
Warner
>
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:00 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 7/29/20 4:22 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
> > I am not sure I understand your "as it turns out there was only one"
> Bill.
> > Am I correct in assuming you are talking about DEC owned, and meaning
> > that Bob
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 9:06 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 7/29/20 8:20 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:00 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/29/20 4:22 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
> >
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 9:06 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> And with this, I am done. At least until this silly question comes up
> again in the future as I am sure it will.
>
Yea. It's a lot like the folks claiming that the Caldera license grant was
invalid becau
The OCO looks nice. Timing gear maybe?
Warner
On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 5:08 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> anyone ever seen one of these?
> has a motorola 6800 date coded 1976 on it
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/50199901793/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.f
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 12:21 AM Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> From the incompatible department of classic computement: A rather
> complete full dump of the MIT-AI PDP-10 from 1971 has been found. It
> includes full source code and documentation for the system, includi
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:19 AM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
> On 8/28/20 9:07 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > I've decided that
> > I should see if there's an IDE emulator (using SD cards) available I
> could
> > switch to.
> You may want to use PATA disk-on-module.
>
There's also a crap
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM Sean Ellis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hello all, apparently I've been in this group now for weeks but my
> spam filter thinks it's all spam. Fixed that, I hope.
>
> Does anyone have any leads on a MIPS Magnum R4000 or Jazz-compatible
> machine? I'
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:10 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:15 PM, David Bridgham via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> in an online search - the CFADPTHD seems like it's close to what I'd
> want,
> >> except it's Compa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:41 AM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
> On 8/28/20 10:10 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>
> > SD is a packet based storage device on a serial interconnect
> You really do need SMART monitoring on solid-state storage
> which may or may not exist in the adapters. SSDs will
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:14 PM David Bridgham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 8/28/20 1:10 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> > SD is a packet based storage device on a serial interconnect, minimally
> one lane wide but it can also be four lanes (and that's typically how you
> use it). A
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 10:03 AM Jules Richardson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 8/28/20 12:40 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > Also, I discovered recently that there is a maximum number of hours
> > measured in years on SSDs and systems will start throwing SMART
> > errors when
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:26 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've got a fair amount of what would be classified as public domain tape
> data from old customer jobs wandering around. I don't have the time to
> peruse it in detail and was wondering if someone
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:56 PM Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:26 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I've got a fair amount of what would be classified as public domain tape
>> data from old customer jobs wandering around. I don't ha
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:19 AM Lee Courtney via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> "Was Lee Courtney involved with the APL 3000 project?" - unfortunately no I
> was not. Just RTE on the 1000 and later MPE on PA-RISC. All I know is that
> there was microcode support required to run APL on Se
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> This may be off-topic but these latest uprocessor exploits has raised
> a question: Are the 'old/classic' uprocessors using x86 technology in
> the same boat? The very earliest ones, i.e., 1970s and ear
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I now have a number of uCode diskettes for my IBM 4331. I would somehow
> like to image them so:
> a) I have backups in case the floppies themselves go bad
> b) be able to investigate their content
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe
>> using enterprise level ones.
>> Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6
>>
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
> > On Jan 5, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org
> >> wrote:
On Jan 13, 2018 11:22 AM, "Dave Wade via cctalk"
wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Murray
> McCullough via cctalk
> Sent: 13 January 2018 18:09
> To: cctalk
> Subject: Spectre & Meltdown
>
> I wrote about Spectre and Meltdown r
On Jan 13, 2018 11:36 AM, "Paul Koning via cctalk"
wrote:
> On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk
wrote:
>
> ...
> It delayed telling the world to allow time for OS providers to apply
fixes. This is now standard and the delays are defined...
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wir
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:19:17AM +1100, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote:
> > not sure of that's a realistic expectation of what they're worth or not.
>
> Put it this way: if you find out what they are smokin
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=BBN-V6
>
> (The latter includes NCP as well as TCP/IP.)
>
I'm curious: does it inter-operate with modern TCP/IP implementations?
Warner
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:18, Warner Losh via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
&
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Easier, to get this old TCP/IP running, might be to write a Unix V6 driver
> for
> an Ethernet card (one the simulators do support - I know Ersatz-11 does the
> Interlan NI1010A/2010A, which is nice and si
On Jan 18, 2018 6:44 PM, "Jason T via cctalk" wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
> I could, but I guess by the time I’ve sourced a replacement I might as
well have bought an AHA-1522A instead, I have a couple of scouts out
looking for them as we speak :) The
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules
> > Richardson via cctalk
> > Sent: 21 January 2018 19:26
> > To: xx Classiccmp mailing list
> > Su
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules
>> > Richardson via cctalk
>> > S
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > From: Lars Brinkhoff
>
> > Right, we haven't found sources for everything in Macsyma.
>
> Ow. How much, very roughly, is missing (if you happen to know) - 5%, 50%?
>
> > I'd say we're lucky to h
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> On 2/9/18 9:23 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Calmos (then later Tundra) Semiconductor actually documents them in
> > detail in their CA80C85 datasheet, but those were from the early 1980s.
>
>
> the info is still out the
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Adrian Graham via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > LA100-CA
>
> I’m really glad you’re on the right side of the Pond! I really don’t have
> the space to get tempted by something like t
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I thought vintage had to do with wine--and not necessarily old.
>
> e.g. 2006 cabernet sauvignon.
>
> "Vintage computing" occurs when you figure out how many bottles you've
> drunk.
>
And here I was thinking
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Ethan via cctalk
wrote:
> That is a very standard IDE drive that you can replace with just about any
>> IDE drive you can find, at least to get things up and running. The
>> controller won't support the faster transfer speeds of later drives, and
>> may not suppor
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 3/15/2018 8:22 PM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote:
>
>Does anyone know offhand if the CXY08 (M3119) and DELQA (M7516) work
>> with
>> 2.11bsd?
>>
>>
>>I think the CXY08 has the same programmer
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Alan Frisbie
> wrote:
> > Ethan Dicks wrote:
> >
> >> I don't happen to have a VR201 here right now to measure directly (or
> >> I would just do that), but IIRC, there's a
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> The Unix-PC has found a new home in the hands of someone
> I am sure will enjoy and appreciate it. I would expect him to
> show up here sometime with questions as he tries to revive
> it. I tried bo
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>
> > Many of us think that the advent of the x86 architecture is what led to
> > masochism.
>
> ... or masochism led to the x86 architecture.
>
I think you are confused maybe. Was
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrot
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:12 AM, allison via cctalk >
> wrote:
>
> > Looked at 8086 and decided it was a 8080 with a bag on the side.
> > It was and still is irrational.
> >
>
> With the 386 architecture (32
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, allison via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Looked at 8086 and decided it was a 8080 with a bag on the side.
>> It was and still is irrational.
>>
>
> OTOH, Micropro had 8080 originated Wordstar runnin
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Apr 20, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> > It's a bit disappointing to see them priced so highly. I don't think
> > I've seen one even list
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 8:29 AM, js--- via cctalk
wrote:
>
> It could possibly be the "-" sign. I use that to exclude tokens from a
> search.
>
> So "pdp -parts" should list all pdp items that are NOT parts.
>
Yes. One of my searches is:
dec rainbow -spinner -flower -seeds -spiner -pillow -ros
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > On May 2, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 05/02/2018 08:06 AM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >> When you say you snipe with a bot, do you
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 7:14 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Bill
> Gunshannon
> > via cctalk
> > Sent: 04 May 2018 12:57
> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: DEC Mouse replacement
> >
> >
> >
> > On 05/03/2018 09:38 PM, D
I have a DEC Pentium 200 Laptop... It appears to be like this hinote
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Digital-HiNote-VP-Laptop-Notebook-PC-Windows-95-Pentium-200MHz-MMX-32MB/362199249233?hash=item5454c1f151:g:tGUAAOSwrFtaRriI
Warner
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctal
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> HP-UX for them is very interesting from a historical perspective in that
> the Unix kernel is a complete rewrite. It is hosted on top of HP’s “SUN
> OS” operating system (there is also a single-user BAS
Iorc, the mice are sun compatable, but that may just be for the IDT
workstation. I have a recollection that they are also compatable with the
Series 4, 5 and 5e I/O boards. I know a guy that I used to work with there
that will know for sure. I'll ask him. He still has a series 5e in
service...
Wa
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 9:46 AM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> On 5/23/18 7:51 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
> > they need a special mouse and keyboard
>
> You can run them headless, so they aren't completely useless w/o the
> keyboard.
>
You do need a serial port for that. On boot, the boot
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:40 AM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > Does the S4100 support a serial console?
>
> Yes, it should. I forget how to set this up because mine weren't headless,
> but they do.
The boot roms are basically from the same sources... but I think tha
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Alan Perry wrote:
>
> You are correct. I misremembered this section from
> https://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/solace/
>
> Why don't Sun keyboards work? What about mice? None of the Sun keyboards
> will work with the Solbourne and vice versa. At best they won't wor
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > I talked with my friend who worked at Solbourne longer than I did.
>
> Oooh. Dieter, maybe?
Yes.
> This isn't quite right. The connectors are different, but the signalling
> is
> > the same. You need
On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 7:37 PM, Alan Frisbie
> wrote:
> > Tony Duell wrote:
> >
> >> > until the 8085 CFE loaded the microcode.
> >>
> >> Loaded from a TU58 cartridge, which is the main reason my 11/730 is n
In a pinch, you can use a normal modular jack (RJ45 I think) with the
retaining tab cut off. All MMJ does is move that tab. The idea, back in the
day, was that you wouldn't want to confuse phone and serial cables. Sounds
sane, but the MMJs were hard to get a hold of and a real pita in practice.
Wa
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> All the disk images for the Waveterm have been created using programs
>>> written by PPG users. For some reason any disk we wrote with them
>>> wouldn’t read correctly in the machine itself UNTIL we made a new
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 4:43 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 06/29/2018 02:30 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>
> > When we wired up two different locations for terminals at Software
> > Results Corp in the 80s, the furthest runs were 250' or so. 9600
> > baud, from VT100s back to Emulex a
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 07/13/2018 02:32 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> > Gentlepeople,
> >
> > Once in a while people ask about GCC. It has long had pdp11 support,
> but it hasn't received much attention. Recently
Somewhat of a tangent, but this just popped up for me.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/07/microfilm-lasts-half-a-millennium/565643/
and I thought of this thread. Apologies if it's a duplicate..
Warner
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk <
cctalk@class
Throughout this whole thread, I've been tempted to say that you get better
data fidelity if you take a green magic marker and mark the edges of the
disk...
Of course, I know people here will get that old, tired meme... It got me
wondering, though, if anybody tested that hypothesis for longevity s
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:09 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 02:14:54AM +0200, Stéphane Tsacas via cctalk wrote:
> > Did anyone manage to connect to tweenex,org through ssh now that telnet
> > port is closed ?
> > I received an mail that says
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 1:53 PM Alan Frisbie via cctalk
wrote:
> > > Alan Frisbie via cctalk wrote:
> > > I always found it amusing that Data General's computers were
> > > named after transitory phenomena: Nova, Supernova, Eclipse.
>
> > Bruce Ray wrote:
> >
> > I see what you mean... sorta
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:39 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
> Additionally, I'm reading that FreeBSD has a binary compatibility
> layer for COFF but I wonder if that's for Intel binaries only or if it
> extends to m68k.
>
FreeBSD never ran on 68k, so I think that would be no.
NetBSD, however,
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:16 PM Frank McConnell via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:00, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > interesting.. the vt71t has inverted-T cursor keys
>
> And CAPS LOCK in the home row to the left of the A key. The VT220 made it
> w-i-d-e. Can we
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:33 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I also looked at the keyboards on my Symbolics machines, and where I’d
> like to have the control key is the “rubout” key. But given that there are
> no fewer than 5 “shift” keys on the Symbolics keyboard
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 12:06 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 09/08/2018 10:07 AM, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote:
> > I miss my old Televideo 910. I wonder if Steve Albany stole it?
> >
> > At ASU, when I was a kid pulling DECwriter printers out the bin to check
> > for printouts in half-du
I wrote a program years ago to read this an use it as an X11 or console
keyboard. NetBSD has a driver too.
Warner
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 8:15 AM Carlo Pisani via cctalk
wrote:
> hi
> about DEC lk201 for DEC Terminal vt220,
> I am looking for information about
> - the pinout of the connector (it
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 9:02 AM Carlo Pisani via cctalk
wrote:
> hi
> so, in a description of DEC terminals, I read "VT240 and VT241 are
> graphics terminals, supporting Digital’s ReGIS graphics and Tektronix
> vector graphics"
>
> what does it mean? which kind of graphics? Can they draw lines?
>
>
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018, 9:53 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk
> wrote:
> > By coincidence, today I started evaluation of a punched/optical card
> reader.
> > Model TM200, made by Documation Inc.
> >
> > Pics here: http://everist.org/pics/TM
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:04 AM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 09/26/2018 11:58 AM, Martin Marshall via cctalk wrote:
> > Alan, I have an archive of Aviion documentation and DG/UX 4.30 in a
> > bz2 file. The total amount of the archive is about 62 MB. I can upload
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:38 AM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 09/27/2018 10:11 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> > He's always interested in *ANY* unix distribution he doesn't already
> have.
> > His goal is their preservation fi
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:17 PM Tapley, Mark via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
> >
> >> On Oct 1, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/04/2018 11:26 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> >> That's sort of accurate. A quick look shows some
I'm glad you corrected because when they worked, they were awesome. When
they didn't, life had a lot of swearing in it... And when I was sysadmin
for the MicroVAX II that had them, I swore like a sailor
Warner
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:04 PM Clem Cole wrote:
> #$%^ - they >>weren't<< like D
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 7:23 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Oct 18, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018, Clem Cole wrote:
> >> As Paul W pointed out correctly, the TK50 and its children in
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:04 AM Ethan via cctalk
wrote:
> > I thought it was just hilarious that Microsoft chose The Rolling
> > Stones' "Start Me Up" for the theme song at the launch of Windows 95,
> > unaware of the later lyrics in the song (not played during the launch,
>
> IIRC They wanted R.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:59 AM John Foust via cctalk
wrote:
> At 10:41 AM 10/19/2018, js--- via cctalk wrote:
> >B, I don't get it. Why is the keyboard being sold alone, when the
> terminal is right there? And how come this particular keyboard is so
> hugely in demand?
>
> My son is a fancy Si
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 9:42 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
wrote:
> > From: Al Kossow
>
> > The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
> > These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
>
> There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
>
> I can see two reasons for people l
I'm surprised there aren't a boatload of arduino projects to create a PC
keyboard to each of the classics...
Warner
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 6:00 PM Ian Primus via cctalk
wrote:
> Ugh - this is super frustrating to see. Especially since I have a 3101
> here with no keyboard. And the reason *why* i
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:56 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> On 10/20/18 5:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> > I'm surprised there aren't a boatload of arduino projects to create a PC
> > keyboard to each of the classics...
>
> If things continue
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 9:05 PM Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:56 PM Al Kossow via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/18 5:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
>> > I'm surprised there
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
>
>
>
> It looks nice externally, and it has the pedestal, which is nice, but the
> seller has not even give the spec or
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:20 PM Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> My jaw dropped when I saw this:
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223201002247?ul_noapp=true
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks nice externally, and it has the pede
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:29 AM Ali via cctalk
wrote:
> > > I guess someone has been looking at the site
> > > Their inventory search broke.
> >
> > I managed to do a search for Apollo stuff and their prices are
> > outrageous.
> >
>
> They are definitely not aimed at the hobbyist. More of one o
I know that the Rainbow's AFU watchdog was the bane of my existence back in
the day... It would fire if interrupts were disabled too long.
Warner
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 6:47 AM Eduardo Cruz via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> A constant pulsing reset is usually a watchdog at play. Hardw
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 8:12 PM Richard Cini via cctalk
wrote:
> Great point. Does a VT100 have a pass-through serial port?
It's how printers were connected...
Warner
Maybe the development machine was connected to a pass through serial port
> on a terminal and then sent command to the DEC-20 to
If we can't use MINIUNIX to rebuild MINIUNIX kernel, should we try to bodge
together rebuilding via apout? I have done some work there for 2.11BSD
stuff, but didn't need it for bootstrapping (just needed to use it to
bootstrap as).
Warner
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:09 PM Ray Jewhurst via cctalk <
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 12:05 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk
wrote:
> I have never figured out why Bob Supnik defined the magnetic tape
> containers (TAP files) with the one byte padding for odd length records.
> This seems very odd (pun intended). :-)
> Even on a machine which couldn't write 32 bit num
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 9:37 PM Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 10/2/20 8:08 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 8:38 PM Chuck Guzis via cctech
> > mailto:cct...@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
> >
> > In fact, is there any standard for floppy disk metadata container
> files?
> >
> > I'm
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