[cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012

2022-10-18 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk

Don't pay your  taxes and it goes quick.

-Original Message- 
From: William Donzelli via cctalk 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 10:36 AM 
To: Ethan O'Toole ; William Donzelli via cctalk 
Cc: William Donzelli 
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012 


Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean.

Anyway, in the US, there are *significant* barriers to cross for
people taking your land.

--
Will

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:15 AM Ethan O'Toole  wrote:


> Own your land.
> Museum or individual.

You never own your land. They can always take it.

- Ethan



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[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk

I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props.

Anyway you can't really complain unless you know the origins of those front 
panels. Some of that equipment was scrapped a long time ago and somebody 
found the front panel or other parts cool and kept them. You can't really 
expect people to keep everything from being made into razor blades 20+ years 
ago and kept in heated and cooled low humidity storage so somebody down the 
road could snag it for lunch money.


If somebody pays a decent amount of cash to mount something on a wall it 
will sooner or later end up being resold to a collector so its not really 
lost in the long view of things.


If there is enough demand or it is worth the economics to recreate somebody 
will 3D print parts and have boards made.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Hunter via cctalk

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 10:44 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Cc: Tom Hunter
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately
sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their
man cave or living room wall.
These same types of people vacuum up core memory boards, keyboards, disk
platters, 9-track tapes, etc just for bragging rights and as a result
depriving those who restore and preserve computer systems from doing so.
For some time I have been looking for a PDP-8/e front panel PCB needed to
make a machine complete. Until now I had no luck. No doubt there are dozens
of these hanging off people's walls.
Like Peter I don't care if the PCB is functional, but unlike Peter I can
and will repair it.
Peter please consider the negative impact of your hobby on historically
valuable computer systems.
Tom




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Re: Not just slashed zeroes/ohs

2022-04-27 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk
I watched the screen and it works very well. His only problem is he 
sometimes forget to click a button to start the input going. There is a box 
where what he speaks gets transcribed and then he cuts and pasts it to the 
correct spot in the patients worksheet.


-Original Message- 
From: Fred Cisin via cctalk

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 11:19 PM
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote:
One of my mothers doctors just talks into a microphone and it does the 
typing for him in real time.


YIKES!
I hope that he MANUALLY edits the results!
People that aren't familiar with such OFTEN have excessive confidence that
it is getting it right.  When a human transcribes, they filter through
"common sense"; people sometimes ASSUME that the dictation program also
does so.

An auto-corrupt could be dangerous.


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Re: Not just slashed zeroes/ohs

2022-04-27 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk
One of my mothers doctors just talks into a microphone and it does the 
typing for him in real time.


-Original Message- 
From: Ali via cctalk

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 5:31 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Not just slashed zeroes/ohs


> Cameron, do they teach indecipherable handwriting in med school?
Seems to be universal!



It's probably the hand cramping after writing clinic notes all day.
Unexpectedly, electronic medical records have made my handwriting
worse, not
better.


Well the old excuse was too many notes not enough time So you scribbled 
and went... Now with electronics records (EMRs) we just get legible but junk 
notes - copy and paste for a week straight And of course information 
overload... But that is partly the insurers fault as they pay more for more 
useless info...


-Ali 



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Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-20 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk
I agree there should be a way to archive and distribute classic software for 
as long as enough people care about it.


The problem is most people don't care enough about it until it is actually 
lost. There is a long time between something being actively used and cared 
about to being obsolete and then to be collected.



-Original Message- 
From: Michael Kerpan via cctalk

Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 9:21 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

The recent discussion of the sudden disappearance of DtCyber and the
various classic CDC software to run on it from the Internet has got me
thinking about just how precarious so much of computer history is in. So
much of what's out there online (and in person) today is at risk just
vanishing if whoever maintains the archive either loses interest (lots of
projects over the years succumb to this) , or rage quits (see the
expungement of DtCyber and Controlfreaks from the internet), or ends up
dying without having made proper arrangements (See the sad fate of the
Living Computer Museum, which was killed by its new owners as soon as COVID
gave them an excuse to do so)

What are we, as a community, to do to fix this and make sure that our
history stays peserved and isn't one bad day away from vanishing.

Mike 



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Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-28 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk




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From: Jecel Assumpcao Jr via cctech

Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 3:21 PM
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from Fast Company


I had a choice between the MC-10 and the Timex 2068 in 83' and went for the 
Timex.


The Timex 1000 was useless without a RAM expander which added to the cost. 
All the cheap machines like the 1000, MC-10, C-16 etc were DOA because of 
the lack of software because everyone was making software for the best 
selling C64, Apple II and Atari 800.


I played around with the 2068 for a while and finally went for a used C64.


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Re: What's left of the Houston Museum stuff

2021-07-21 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk

Nice selection of dirty and yellowed  computers in unknown condition.

-Original Message- 
From: Al Kossow via cctalk 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:49 PM 
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Subject: What's left of the Houston Museum stuff 


https://www.facebook.com/groups/2103793056560583/permalink/3118441161762429/

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