[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Henry Bent via cctalk]

There's no mystery here, it's just someone being either greedy or overly
aspirational.  A $1k item that sells is worth more than a $20k one that
doesn't.  Ebay listing fees are free, so you're free to be as aspirational
as you like for as long as you like.

-Henry

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023, 01:40 Steve Lewis via cctalk 
wrote:

> In a similar shenanigans vein, I've no explanation for the $20k+  IBM
> 5120's being listed.I think one of them has been listed as such for
> over a year now.
>
> - Steve v*
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 9:09 AM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:59 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The Ebay listing hasn't sold but has been relisted at the same price.
> > >
> >
> > Indeed, it appears to be:
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/225514573805
> >
> > Non-paying "buyer"? Or shenanigans?
> >
> > Sellam
> >
> > >
> >
>

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Steve Lewis via cctalk]

In a similar shenanigans vein, I've no explanation for the $20k+  IBM
5120's being listed.I think one of them has been listed as such for
over a year now.

- Steve v*

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 9:09 AM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:59 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk  >
> wrote:
>
> > The Ebay listing hasn't sold but has been relisted at the same price.
> >
>
> Indeed, it appears to be:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/225514573805
>
> Non-paying "buyer"? Or shenanigans?
>
> Sellam
>
> >
>

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:59 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk 
wrote:

> The Ebay listing hasn't sold but has been relisted at the same price.
>

Indeed, it appears to be:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225514573805

Non-paying "buyer"? Or shenanigans?

Sellam

>

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Tom Hunter via cctalk]

The Ebay listing hasn't sold but has been relisted at the same price.


On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:16 AM John Robertson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 2023/04/17 9:12 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit" optimistic.
> >
> > That being said, I'm surprised to see (on eBay's Terapeak) a couple of
> > these sold within the past year for around $1,100.
> >
> > Sellam
>
> One sold on eBay for $2492USD...Apr 6, 2023:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/225512121074?hash=item348191e2f2
>
> John :-#)#
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 8:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing to sell his HP9825A
> >>
> >> I believe he is the original owner.  It has 4 ROM cartridges (that go in
> >> the front) and several data cartridges for the slot on the top left.
> >>
> >> He is asking $2000 but can probably negotiate (as he didn't find any
> takers
> >> in VCF East).  As far as he knows, everything still works (LED lights
> came
> >> on when he powered it up a few months ago).
> >>
> >> I've met this seller and can vouch for him, but I don't know much about
> >> this particular item.
> >>
> >> I have some photos of it at the bottom of this page:
> >> https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023-part-3/
> >>
> >> I may try a VCF forum topic about it.  Just trying to help him find a
> good
> >> home for the equipment.  E-mail/reply direct and I can provide some
> contact
> >> info.
> >>
> >> (BTW not sure if my cctalk posts are working anymore??)
> >>
> >> -Steve / voidstar
> >>
>
> --
>   John's Jukes Ltd.
> 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
> Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
>   flippers.com
>   "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
>
>

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Chris Zach via cctalk]

It's not like we're talking about a barn find covered in pidgeon poop.


You'd be amazed at how much a barn find covered in pidgeon poop goes for

If it works, if it's got all the bits, and a good story then sure, the 
sky's the limit

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Richard via cctalk]

In article ,
"Craig Ruff via cctalk"  writes:

> 
> > On Apr 17, 2023, at 11:00, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote:
> > For the HP, I think it's a fair asking price because of all the cables,
> > manuals, and accessories that he's got -- he's got all the SerialIO
> > stuff, so it would be a fun project (to me) to try to write a terminal
> > program and get that calculator on the internet :) 
>
> The price seems high to me also, but if someone is willing to pay for it.

A unit that has been cared for over the years by a single owner and
contains all the associated ephemera (manuals, cords, cases, etc.) in
good condition is certainly the sort of thing that commands a price at
the high end of the range.

It's not like we're talking about a barn find covered in pidgeon poop.
-- 
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book 
The Terminals Wiki 
 The Computer Graphics Museum 
  Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) 

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Craig Ruff via cctalk]

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 11:00, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote:
> For the HP, I think it's a fair asking price because of all the cables,
> manuals, and accessories that he's got -- he's got all the SerialIO
> stuff, so it would be a fun project (to me) to try to write a terminal
> program and get that calculator on the internet :) 

The price seems high to me also, but if someone is willing to pay for it. The 
tape drive will almost certainly need work.

That said, I did write a terminal program for a 9825T in college, but it was 
only usable because I had a 9871A printer on which to display the output. It 
was a pain to use, but better than waiting for a terminal in the university's 
computer center.

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

Uncommon, certainly. But rarity isn't always the primary factor driving
price. Sometimes it's desirability. Apparently, enough people covet this
machine to pay 4 figures for one.

Sellam

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:51 AM Christopher Zach via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> A 9825a is rare? I couldn't find anyone interested  in one with a down
> power supply last year. Sold for 500 on ebay
>
> On April 17, 2023 11:51:42 AM EDT, Steve Lewis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing to sell his HP9825A
> >
> >I believe he is the original owner.  It has 4 ROM cartridges (that go in
> >the front) and several data cartridges for the slot on the top left.
> >
> >He is asking $2000 but can probably negotiate (as he didn't find any
> takers
> >in VCF East).  As far as he knows, everything still works (LED lights came
> >on when he powered it up a few months ago).
> >
> >I've met this seller and can vouch for him, but I don't know much about
> >this particular item.
> >
> >I have some photos of it at the bottom of this page:
> >https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023-part-3/
> >
> >I may try a VCF forum topic about it.  Just trying to help him find a good
> >home for the equipment.  E-mail/reply direct and I can provide some
> contact
> >info.
> >
> >(BTW not sure if my cctalk posts are working anymore??)
> >
> >-Steve / voidstar
>

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Steve Lewis via cctalk]

I decided to buy the 5120 from this same seller, which is how I can vouch
for him.  It's already damaged, so I don't feel as guilty having it
shipped.  (no we don't know the exact damage, but by June VCF I'll probably
have it opened up and see more on what's going on there)

For the HP, I think it's a fair asking price because of all the cables,
manuals, and accessories that he's got -- he's got all the SerialIO
stuff, so it would be a fun project (to me) to try to write a terminal
program and get that calculator on the internet :)  Just I've got too many
projects going on right now - and after the 5120, I'll really be struggling
for space. But yes, he's at a point where he just needs to clear out
space, which is why he might even go half his asking price (especially for
a local pick up)?I think he's going to post it on eBay within the next
month.

As for rarity - I'm not sure.  I think the HP9825 is actually from the year
1976 (that should be good for having a more recent power supply, so more
likely to remain as a working system?), so a HP9830 would be a more sought
out item.  Also the 9825 uses HP's "HPL" (or something), not quite "normal
BASIC."  And if no "monitor" or machine code input is available, not sure
how much custom software could be written.

-Steve






On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:18 AM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hmm, somehow that didn't come up in Terapeak search.
>
> Crazy.
>
> Sellam
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:16 AM John Robertson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2023/04/17 9:12 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > > My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit" optimistic.
> > >
> > > That being said, I'm surprised to see (on eBay's Terapeak) a couple of
> > > these sold within the past year for around $1,100.
> > >
> > > Sellam
> >
> > One sold on eBay for $2492USD...Apr 6, 2023:
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/225512121074?hash=item348191e2f2
> >
> > John :-#)#
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 8:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing to sell his HP9825A
> > >>
> > >> I believe he is the original owner.  It has 4 ROM cartridges (that go
> in
> > >> the front) and several data cartridges for the slot on the top left.
> > >>
> > >> He is asking $2000 but can probably negotiate (as he didn't find any
> > takers
> > >> in VCF East).  As far as he knows, everything still works (LED lights
> > came
> > >> on when he powered it up a few months ago).
> > >>
> > >> I've met this seller and can vouch for him, but I don't know much
> about
> > >> this particular item.
> > >>
> > >> I have some photos of it at the bottom of this page:
> > >> https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023-part-3/
> > >>
> > >> I may try a VCF forum topic about it.  Just trying to help him find a
> > good
> > >> home for the equipment.  E-mail/reply direct and I can provide some
> > contact
> > >> info.
> > >>
> > >> (BTW not sure if my cctalk posts are working anymore??)
> > >>
> > >> -Steve / voidstar
> > >>
> >
> > --
> >   John's Jukes Ltd.
> > 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
> > Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
> >   flippers.com
> >   "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
> >
> >
>

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Christopher Zach via cctalk]

A 9825a is rare? I couldn't find anyone interested  in one with a down power 
supply last year. Sold for 500 on ebay

On April 17, 2023 11:51:42 AM EDT, Steve Lewis via cctalk 
 wrote:
>There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing to sell his HP9825A
>
>I believe he is the original owner.  It has 4 ROM cartridges (that go in
>the front) and several data cartridges for the slot on the top left.
>
>He is asking $2000 but can probably negotiate (as he didn't find any takers
>in VCF East).  As far as he knows, everything still works (LED lights came
>on when he powered it up a few months ago).
>
>I've met this seller and can vouch for him, but I don't know much about
>this particular item.
>
>I have some photos of it at the bottom of this page:
>https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023-part-3/
>
>I may try a VCF forum topic about it.  Just trying to help him find a good
>home for the equipment.  E-mail/reply direct and I can provide some contact
>info.
>
>(BTW not sure if my cctalk posts are working anymore??)
>
>-Steve / voidstar

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

Hmm, somehow that didn't come up in Terapeak search.

Crazy.

Sellam

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:16 AM John Robertson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 2023/04/17 9:12 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit" optimistic.
> >
> > That being said, I'm surprised to see (on eBay's Terapeak) a couple of
> > these sold within the past year for around $1,100.
> >
> > Sellam
>
> One sold on eBay for $2492USD...Apr 6, 2023:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/225512121074?hash=item348191e2f2
>
> John :-#)#
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 8:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing to sell his HP9825A
> >>
> >> I believe he is the original owner.  It has 4 ROM cartridges (that go in
> >> the front) and several data cartridges for the slot on the top left.
> >>
> >> He is asking $2000 but can probably negotiate (as he didn't find any
> takers
> >> in VCF East).  As far as he knows, everything still works (LED lights
> came
> >> on when he powered it up a few months ago).
> >>
> >> I've met this seller and can vouch for him, but I don't know much about
> >> this particular item.
> >>
> >> I have some photos of it at the bottom of this page:
> >> https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023-part-3/
> >>
> >> I may try a VCF forum topic about it.  Just trying to help him find a
> good
> >> home for the equipment.  E-mail/reply direct and I can provide some
> contact
> >> info.
> >>
> >> (BTW not sure if my cctalk posts are working anymore??)
> >>
> >> -Steve / voidstar
> >>
>
> --
>   John's Jukes Ltd.
> 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
> Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
>   flippers.com
>   "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
>
>

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[John Robertson via cctalk]

On 2023/04/17 9:12 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:

My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit" optimistic.

That being said, I'm surprised to see (on eBay's Terapeak) a couple of
these sold within the past year for around $1,100.

Sellam


One sold on eBay for $2492USD...Apr 6, 2023:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225512121074?hash=item348191e2f2

John :-#)#



On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 8:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk 
wrote:


There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing to sell his HP9825A

I believe he is the original owner.  It has 4 ROM cartridges (that go in
the front) and several data cartridges for the slot on the top left.

He is asking $2000 but can probably negotiate (as he didn't find any takers
in VCF East).  As far as he knows, everything still works (LED lights came
on when he powered it up a few months ago).

I've met this seller and can vouch for him, but I don't know much about
this particular item.

I have some photos of it at the bottom of this page:
https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023-part-3/

I may try a VCF forum topic about it.  Just trying to help him find a good
home for the equipment.  E-mail/reply direct and I can provide some contact
info.

(BTW not sure if my cctalk posts are working anymore??)

-Steve / voidstar



--
 John's Jukes Ltd.
7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
 flippers.com
 "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

[cctalk] Re: HP9825A for sale

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit" optimistic.

That being said, I'm surprised to see (on eBay's Terapeak) a couple of
these sold within the past year for around $1,100.

Sellam

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 8:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk 
wrote:

> There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing to sell his HP9825A
>
> I believe he is the original owner.  It has 4 ROM cartridges (that go in
> the front) and several data cartridges for the slot on the top left.
>
> He is asking $2000 but can probably negotiate (as he didn't find any takers
> in VCF East).  As far as he knows, everything still works (LED lights came
> on when he powered it up a few months ago).
>
> I've met this seller and can vouch for him, but I don't know much about
> this particular item.
>
> I have some photos of it at the bottom of this page:
> https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023-part-3/
>
> I may try a VCF forum topic about it.  Just trying to help him find a good
> home for the equipment.  E-mail/reply direct and I can provide some contact
> info.
>
> (BTW not sure if my cctalk posts are working anymore??)
>
> -Steve / voidstar
>